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Quote: novicegambler@AxelWolf - I am sorry I am lost here.. Harry Potter insults ?? Are you referring to "stalwarts" ?? It was all well intended, I really admire lot of people in the forum with so much knowledge about the system/betting
novicegambler, don't worry about the "Clowns" on here they do it to bust your nuts. Just avoid them, they eventually drift away.
Quote: novicegambler@terapined - Like I mentioned I have no idea who varmenti is. And I am also eagerly waiting for his reply to see him in action.
You sad you go there 4-5 times a week to the Casino, yet I was there all day playing Baccarat with my wife and no one drop by to say hello.
Quote: novicegambler@Varmenti - Like you have noticed trends in the shoe of a baccarat game, I do notice one trend in you and your posts. I see how you just reply or chose to reply or read only the part of the post which you want.
Hence I would repeat - I would like to see you play at the Fallsview, so let me know the date and time. And please don't post a number to call which you don't receive. I don't have any preconceived notions against your system and I myself do use some "crazy" or "mathematically not backed" systems because I am there to have fun and not make a living out of it.
Listen man, I have no time to hold hands of a Novice Gambler. I suggest pick your favorite game of choice and play it. I only play Baccarat and I play it well. I suggest if you like to learn the game, Google it and get some education on it. I am not a "Teacher" I share some excellent tips on here for those interested in utilizing at no cost.
Help yourself. Don't call my cell expecting education because "Ya' ain't gonna get any"
Yes I was joking.. It just sounds funnyQuote: novicegambler@AxelWolf - I am sorry I am lost here.. Harry Potter insults ?? Are you referring to "stalwarts" ?? It was all well intended, I really admire lot of people in the forum with so much knowledge about the system/betting
Quote: terapinedI hope you are the real deal novicegambler in that you don't know Varmenti. I'd love to hear from an independent witness viewing his casino action.
To be honest, I'd like to see for myself. I'm flying out to see the 100 Nuggets challenge, why not check out Varmenti on his home turf. I work in the corporate travel industry, airfare for me to see Varmenti in action is a measley 10 bucks. Even on a free ticket, there is a tax. Only problem is I want a guaranteed viewing , no way I'm going up there to get the dodge.
If you want a real deal Witness, just talk to OntarioDealer on here. He is a floor supervisor in the Bac pit.
Quote: novicegamblerVarmenti - no replies to my invitation yet ?? Anyone can make these scorecards, its not a big deal
Actually it is a "Very Big Deal" novicegambler, These are scores cards from actual games. I put them on here as a reference instead of using Baccarat Generating Programs. These cards will give you a feel for the Money you Win / Lose to allow Baccarat players to play the game at home utilizing my methods and build a confidence before walking into the Casino.
Please note that anyone trying to utilize my methods in Online Casinos, it's not the same because you are going up against a Program that is Built to "Wipe You Out"
My methods are designed and customized for "Real Table Play"
In future do not make statements to My material I offer to you for FREE.
This is a good lesson for you as a new Gambler trying to tackle the world of Gaming.
Quote: novicegamblerVarmenti - no replies to my invitation yet ?? Anyone can make these scorecards, its not a big deal
I recommend you to read the posts on here and not just pick and choose what you like to read because I answered you to your invitation offer.
novicegambler, as to you being a new gambler, if you happen to see me in action at the tables, please just watch if you choose and please understand, I'm not trying to be rude but it is a rule to not discuss the game of baccarat while anyone is in action at the live tables.
if you have questions, you can post them here as I read Every Post.
Again if you see me or my wife playing the tables, It's OK to say hello or talk about whats on the TV but please "No questions in relation to baccarat or strategies" it will only upset us and we will ask you to leave.
Quote: varmentiActually it is a "Very Big Deal" novicegambler, These are scores cards from actual games. I put them on here as a reference instead of using Baccarat Generating Programs. These cards will give you a feel for the Money you Win / Lose to allow Baccarat players to play the game at home utilizing my methods and build a confidence before walking into the Casino.
Please note that anyone trying to utilize my methods in Online Casinos, it's not the same because you are going up against a Program that is Built to "Wipe You Out"
The problem with the cards your posting though are we have no reason to believe they are a random sampling of games you play. It isn't hard to get score cards of winning tables I mean if you wanted to trick people you could cherry pick the cards you show us or if you were willing to be really dishonest you could just make up cards. I could make up a "winning system" and then bring in shoes that it won at but it could have just as easily lost in dozens more shoes. Also what evidence do you have that online casinos are designed to "Wipe You Out" you are claiming that there is systematic bias in all online casinos and that is a very serious accusation. Heres a hint if people bring evidence that it doesn't work in all these scenarios isn't it more likely that your system is flawed and you've just gotten lucky then to say there is a massive conspiracy against you.
Quote: TwirdmanThe problem with the cards your posting though are we have no reason to believe they are a random sampling of games you play. It isn't hard to get score cards of winning tables I mean if you wanted to trick people you could cherry pick the cards you show us or if you were willing to be really dishonest you could just make up cards. I could make up a "winning system" and then bring in shoes that it won at but it could have just as easily lost in dozens more shoes. Also what evidence do you have that online casinos are designed to "Wipe You Out" you are claiming that there is systematic bias in all online casinos and that is a very serious accusation. Heres a hint if people bring evidence that it doesn't work in all these scenarios isn't it more likely that your system is flawed and you've just gotten lucky then to say there is a massive conspiracy against you.
When my wife and I sit at the Baccarat Table we have our scorecard there and I record all of my plays. these cards are what I use at the tables, I number each table I sit at. But yes it's easy to "Cheat at your own game" i guess, but what good is that.
My intentions of this thread is to introduce my methods and to allow others to test my methods in their own time to gain the "Feel of my Method" so I can hopefully "Build a Team of Strong Confident Players" to assist me in 'Bringing Down the House". Offering false informational tools to the players will only hurt me at my own game.
Scorecards or not, I let everyone know numerous times that in Baccarat, 75% of the shoes are bad and will wipe you out.
My methods allow people to cut their losses and move on to new tables. My methods allow people to teach themselves about many aspects including leaving when you're ahead, Money Management, Losing in a professional way, Attitude, Positive thinking, Etc.
Quote: varmentiWhen my wife and I sit at the Baccarat Table we have our scorecard there and I record all of my plays. these cards are what I use at the tables, I number each table I sit at. But yes it's easy to "Cheat at your own game" i guess, but what good is that.
My intentions of this thread is to introduce my methods and to allow others to test my methods in their own time to gain the "Feel of my Method" so I can hopefully "Build a Team of Strong Confident Players" to assist me in 'Bringing Down the House". Offering false informational tools to the players will only hurt me at my own game.
One of the big problems is guys like Rob are doing your method and showing losses and your response is nope you're just having bad luck I mean look at these shoes. Other people are pointing out mathematically your system can't work and again you throw these cards out nope see no I'm right. I mean even if these cards are legitimate why can't you just consider the fact you may be getting lucky I mean a 6 month period is not significant compared to the hundreds of years of math saying what you are doing is impossible. So the board is going to need a lot more than a few tracking cards. You either need to expose a systematic bias in baccarat leading to certain hands being more likely given a series of past hands leading to to you winning or even more unlikely do something to overturn centuries of established math.
Quote: varmentiMy methods allow people to teach themselves about many aspects including leaving when you're ahead, Money Management, Losing in a professional way, Attitude, Positive thinking, Etc.
Ah yes, these methods are all proven money makers, right? lol...
Quote: TwirdmanOne of the big problems is guys like Rob are doing your method and showing losses and your response is nope you're just having bad luck I mean look at these shoes. Other people are pointing out mathematically your system can't work and again you throw these cards out nope see no I'm right. I mean even if these cards are legitimate why can't you just consider the fact you may be getting lucky I mean a 6 month period is not significant compared to the hundreds of years of math saying what you are doing is impossible. So the board is going to need a lot more than a few tracking cards. You either need to expose a systematic bias in baccarat leading to certain hands being more likely given a series of past hands leading to to you winning or even more unlikely do something to overturn centuries of established math.
Twirdman, he is not, he is using his own scoreboard type of generated results to do his math and it's not done right.
I will keep playing Baccarat the way I play and record my Losses / wins as I play, these scorecards are a reference tool for those wanting to test my methods of play. anything computer generated is just not accurate to the Real game of Baccarat.
you need to consider 8 decks of cards randomly shuffled and cut approx 1 deck and also cut an additional 1/2 deck that never gets played in the shoe. Then you have to consider the Burn card and amount of burned cards at the very start of the shoe. It's completely random. Then you also have to incorporate the Rules of Player and Banker two card and three card rules that determine the runs in the game.
You also have to see with your own eyes, there are 75% of the shoes are LOSERS and 25% Have runs and result in Profit. Some things Computers just can't do requires actual playing of the game.
You guys that only think you know about the game but never play it will never realize the actual picture i'm trying to show you.
It's about making Money man, The computer simulations don't show the law of averages I see with my own eyes.
Quote: Beethoven9thAh yes, these methods are all proven money makers, right? lol...
Beethoven9th, your replies are becoming more and more comparable to that of a grade 3 student. I do not want you to lose interest in the Game of Baccarat, but I do recommend to PM your teacher and Listen more. The "Master" Has spoken.
Quote: novicegambler@varmenti - I HAVEN"T EVER SEEN YOU THERE I have been playing/observing the baccarat for almost 5 months now. And I play at both the dragon Baccarat section and High Limit Room. I recognise most of the people who are regulars but I have never seen you there.
Well, now I know "what's next?" from my previous posts...this is an interesting development.
Quote: novicegambler@varmenti - I HAVEN"T EVER SEEN YOU THERE I have been playing/observing the baccarat for almost 5 months now. And I play at both the dragon Baccarat section and High Limit Room. I recognize most of the people who are regulars but I have never seen you there.
man, many of the dealers, supervisors, Pit bosses and other players know us by name, we are there so much. I don't play in the high limit room but my Uncle "Chi Chi" Armenti plays in that room 2-3 times a week.
I play almost every morning 10am 4 tables 8 brand new shoes open to the right side of the Dragon pit. I'm the one with the Extra Large Tim Horton's Coffee and The only guy playing both sides Banker & Player and the only guy in there that has Long hair.
Even though I have started playing baccarat for only 5months I am aware that your system doesn't work.
Please let me clear your confusion; I offered to watch your game NOT TO LEARN but to see if your system works or not, so that I could back you up in this forum. I am a novice player not because I don't know about the game, its just because I play for fun and have a good time. And I sometimes make stupid bets even though I know I might lose. I DON'T PLAY AT CASINO TO MAKE A LIVING. The $1000 that you grind yourself to make in the Casino in a day, is less than my expense for half a day. SO please keep these to yourself.
on a dating site. http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=46312927
This has to be within the last 5 years, you say you're 45 there.
Why did you list singer/song writer as your profession when
you told us you worked for Microsoft and have been a pro
gambler since 1996? Singer/song writer (without a car) sounds
like a middle aged loser who lives in his mom's basement.
Pro gambler who has beaten BJ, roulette, slots and bac, as you
have claimed here, and who also works for Microsoft, seems
like a much more substantial guy than a singer/songwriter, which
is what a High School kid puts on his resume.
Also, you make so many grammatical and punctuation errors, it
sounds like you have a 5th grade education. How on earth did
MS hire you with an obvious lack of any skills whatsoever?
I showed your system to even my non playing friends after explaining the game. Its starange that they understood your system is flawed but you being the "MASTER" havent yet.
And please don't be deluded by the word "stalwarts " that I used earlier. It definitely wasn't for you.
Quote: wudgedHas anybody considered the ole "winning strategy" of buying in for $1000, playing, and then cashing out your chips for $200, all the while thinking you won $200 although you really lost $800?
Unless you're a funny guy wudged, I highly recommend reading my thread from the very beginning and learn the "Basics" along with "System Requirements"
before making such a ridiculous reply. (I can tell you may be a bit "Lazy so I will explain the $200.00")
This 200.00 thingy is called a short term goal above your bankroll.
This is what you cash out after each Baccarat session before 20 hands.
this is what many will call "Profit"
Sorry for the "Baby Talk" but sometimes it works best for "Some" Members on here.
There are more tips included throughout the Thread.
Quote: novicegambler@varmenti - I will repeat I have never seen you there. Anyways I will be there on Tuesday at 10 am to watch you. Lets see some real action on the table rather than the talk on the forum
Please report back!
LOL!Quote: EvenBobHey Varmenti, ran across this interesting page you wrote
on a dating site. http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=46312927
This has to be within the last 5 years, you say you're 45 there.
Why did you list singer/song writer as your profession when
you told us you worked for Microsoft and have been a pro
gambler since 1996? Singer/song writer (without a car) sounds
like a middle aged loser who lives in his mom's basement.
Pro gambler who has beaten BJ, roulette, slots and bac, as you
have claimed here, and who also works for Microsoft, seems
like a much more substantial guy than a singer/songwriter, which
is what a High School kid puts on his resume.
Also, you make so many grammatical and punctuation errors, it
sounds like you have a 5th grade education. How on earth did
MS hire you with an obvious lack of any skills whatsoever?
Hey gr8varmenti, how come you answered "No" to the question "Do you have children?"
Quote: novicegambler@varmenti - I will repeat I have never seen you there. Anyways I will be there on Tuesday at 10 am to watch you. Lets see some real action on the table rather than the talk on the forum
you talk the big talk for a NOVICE Gambler educating yourself in just a short period of time and hanging out and playing in the "Big Room"
Perhaps you are interested in a small wager? say a percentage % of my winnings taken from the new table of your choice? vs. your cash $$$.
Keep in mind my average winnings per table is 200.00 with Runs making averages between 500 to 5000 per table.
Rules:
1) if I reach my goal of 200.00 on the new table of your choice, you give me Just $50.00 per table and you can pick as many tables as you like as long as they are new tables.
2) for every table I play that I do not reach my goal (Now remember 75% of those tables are bad, So the odds are highly in your favor) I give you a 25.00 chip.
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If you win you go home with money and if you lose, you can prove my methods work and go home with "Good Learnings"
the odds are in your favor. You interested? or maybe "R" "U" Yeller'
I tried to do it, but the dealer insisted I bet a stack of chips instead of my partner.
a dating site how sadQuote: EvenBobHey Varmenti, ran across this interesting page you wrote
on a dating site. http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=46312927
This has to be within the last 5 years, you say you're 45 there.
Why did you list singer/song writer as your profession when
you told us you worked for Microsoft and have been a pro
gambler since 1996? Singer/song writer (without a car) sounds
like a middle aged loser who lives in his mom's basement.
Pro gambler who has beaten BJ, roulette, slots and bac, as you
have claimed here, and who also works for Microsoft, seems
like a much more substantial guy than a singer/songwriter, which
is what a High School kid puts on his resume.
Also, you make so many grammatical and punctuation errors, it
sounds like you have a 5th grade education. How on earth did
MS hire you with an obvious lack of any skills whatsoever?
Quote: gr8varmentiThere are more tips included throughout the Thread.
Like the tip below?
LOL!Quote: gr8varmentiI don't want to share at this time but I will include at a later date.
Quote: AxelWolfa dating site how sadQuote: EvenBobHey Varmenti, ran across this interesting page you wrote
on a dating site. http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=46312927
This has to be within the last 5 years, you say you're 45 there.
Why did you list singer/song writer as your profession when
you told us you worked for Microsoft and have been a pro
gambler since 1996? Singer/song writer (without a car) sounds
like a middle aged loser who lives in his mom's basement.
Pro gambler who has beaten BJ, roulette, slots and bac, as you
have claimed here, and who also works for Microsoft, seems
like a much more substantial guy than a singer/songwriter, which
is what a High School kid puts on his resume.
Also, you make so many grammatical and punctuation errors, it
sounds like you have a 5th grade education. How on earth did
MS hire you with an obvious lack of any skills whatsoever?
Yeah, you'd think a filthy rich guy like gr8varmenti would be at the Rhino every day. LOL!
I am repeating for the third time - I am not an expert, I only play for fun. I haven't said I know everything about Baccarat.
Yes I do play in the Salon Prive most of the times - Baccarat or even Craps.
Keep in mind (like you said) - I said your $1000 is my expense for half a day. When I play - I play with a bankroll of between 20,000 - 50,000. And I don't care if I lose that money on that day, coz I aint make a living out of it .
Its a deal, so we are meeting on Tuesday at 10am
Quote: varmentiUnless you're a funny guy wudged, I highly recommend reading my thread from the very beginning and learn the "Basics" along with "System Requirements"
before making such a ridiculous reply. (I can tell you may be a bit "Lazy so I will explain the $200.00")
This 200.00 thingy is called a short term goal above your bankroll.
This is what you cash out after each Baccarat session before 20 hands.
this is what many will call "Profit"
Sorry for the "Baby Talk" but sometimes it works best for "Some" Members on here.
There are more tips included throughout the Thread.
What is this I don't even...
I have no words but LOL!
Quote: Beethoven9thLOL!
Hey gr8varmenti, how come you answered "No" to the question "Do you have children?"
You should be a Private Investigator for the forum you silly little boy. Plenty of fish? Come on man, that was a joke. something I put up for my Ex-wife to see. Don't take everything you see so serious, because it brings out The "Loser" part in you. For those who do care. Plenty of fish is an online dating site that allows one to create a profile and match with those of interest. I do not recommend looking for the "Love of your life" on there, but hey, if "Beethoven the Great" can then I "Assume" anybody can.
I dont know what the bet is however I seemed to see him only putting up 25 and you have to put up 50Quote: novicegamblerEven though English isnt my first language I can offer you to teach some English, coz you don't understand what I said. I'm not sure whst the bet is however I think he said he was going to only ofer 25 bucks but ge got 50
I am repeating for the third time - I am not an expert, I only play for fun. I haven't said I know everything about Baccarat.
Yes I do play in the Salon Prive most of the times - Baccarat or even Craps.
Keep in mind (like you said) - I said your $1000 is my expense for half a day. When I play - I play with a bankroll of between 20,000 - 50,000. And I don't care if I lose that money on that day, coz I aint make a living out of it .
Its a deal, so we are meeting on Tuesday at 10am
Quote: EvenBobHey Varmenti, ran across this interesting page you wrote
on a dating site. http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=46312927
This has to be within the last 5 years, you say you're 45 there.
Why did you list singer/song writer as your profession when
you told us you worked for Microsoft and have been a pro
gambler since 1996? Singer/song writer (without a car) sounds
like a middle aged loser who lives in his mom's basement.
Pro gambler who has beaten BJ, roulette, slots and bac, as you
have claimed here, and who also works for Microsoft, seems
like a much more substantial guy than a singer/songwriter, which
is what a High School kid puts on his resume.
Also, you make so many grammatical and punctuation errors, it
sounds like you have a 5th grade education. How on earth did
MS hire you with an obvious lack of any skills whatsoever?
Hey gr8varmenti,
We're supposed to believe that you created the page above for an ex??? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....LOL!
Quote: IbeatyouracesWhy not? He want us to believe he beats bac every day.
Ah, touché!
Quote: novicegambler@beethoven9th - Sure I will be reporting live from Fallsview Casino. And now I have more reasons to go, as I now have a bet with Varmenti.
I can not be there Tuesday because I will be in Mississauga in the morning for the iPad 5 Release. but any other day of your choice is fine.
So if you're Serious, just look for the Guy with The Extra Large Tim Horton's coffee, Don't be late and don't forget to bring your cash. and for the record, I don't plan on feeding you with my comps. you're on your own.
Remember the rules, Do not ask questions about Baccarat in the Playing field.
You are there to observe only and bet only if you wish to.
I am not responsible for your bets whether you win or lose.
Quote: AxelWolfMy Bullshit meter is all over the place Varm.
My patience is running thin with the Jokers of the forum.
If you DO NOT PLAY BACCARAT, GET LOST and stop filling my thread posts with garbage talk.
Does anyone else like to challenge me? because I have no problems to fly down for a day just to throw my methods in your face and take your hard earned dollars.
any Challengers or "R" Ya" All "Yeller"
Quote: varmentiI have no problems to fly down for a day just to throw my methods in your face and take your hard earned dollars.
Just like you're gonna send $1K to the Wizard, right? LOL
to. They pick him up at his mom's because he doesn't have a car,
go out to dinner and pay for their own (and probably his to) because
he 'doesn't pay for lunch or dinner' because he's broke. And he's
no 'sex toy', he hates 'skanky sex', so the woman better be on her
best behavior not to say or do anything to lead him on.
Here he is ladies, first in line gets him.
Quote: novicegamblerEven though English isnt my first language I can offer you to teach some English, coz you don't understand what I said.
I am repeating for the third time - I am not an expert, I only play for fun. I haven't said I know everything about Baccarat.
Yes I do play in the Salon Prive most of the times - Baccarat or even Craps.
Keep in mind (like you said) - I said your $1000 is my expense for half a day. When I play - I play with a bankroll of between 20,000 - 50,000. And I don't care if I lose that money on that day, coz I aint make a living out of it .
Its a deal, so we are meeting on Tuesday at 10am
novicegambler, you are gonna be treated like the Gr8novicegambler soon if you keep talking BS like this.
I find it hard to believe that you being a new guy on the block actually gamble 20,000 to 50,000 for the fun of it. What are you some kind of millionaire. Now I feel embarrassed making a bet so miniscule like $25.00 and 50.00. I'm so ashamed in myself to be in the presence of a High roller such as yourself who gambles 50 grand for fun.
As I mentioned a few days ago, The Release date of the iPad 5 is October 15th and unfortunately it falls on a Tuesday. This Tuesday, o yea, I'm sorry but the iPad is more important to me than babysitting some guy I don't know for half a day.
Quote: varmentiI'm sorry but the iPad is more important to me than babysitting some guy I don't know for half a day.
Is that how you stay in contact with The Donald? Is
he on your speed dial?
Varm seriously I have said this before. IF your going to make claims that go agianst some of the most intelligent people in the world and they discount as being impossible And also all kinds.of other outrageous claims . You need to deal with it.Quote: varmentiMy patience is running thin with the Jokers of the forum.
If you DO NOT PLAY BACCARAT, GET LOST and stop filling my thread posts with garbage talk.
Does anyone else like to challenge me? because I have no problems to fly down for a day just to throw my methods in your face and take your hard earned dollars.
any Challengers or "R" Ya" All "Yeller"
I am definitely Interested. If you are willing to fly to Vegas or AC and put your system up vs a fair bet I think I can arrange that. I can possibly get you some rooms and food.
Quote: EvenBobIs that how you stay in contact with The Donald? Is
he on your speed dial?
what are you talking about?
