RealFakeDoors
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June 27th, 2017 at 3:40:11 PM permalink
I was cruising through one of my local casinos this afternoon and noticed a new game on the floor: Free Bet Zappit. I sat and played it for a while and it does what it says on the tin: its an amalgam of Free Bet and Zappit, with both Pot of Gold and Pair Square side wagers available. Same rules as both games have normally, aces only split once and Zaps only after the dealer peeks. I'd like to try counting this and, assuming they were using a 6-deck shoe, does anyone have any idea what the house edge would be on this?
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June 27th, 2017 at 4:19:19 PM permalink
Aren't those two different games?
RealFakeDoors
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June 27th, 2017 at 4:23:41 PM permalink
That's what I thought too, but here they have them combined into one game. From what I saw, they address the bonus wagers before allowing players to Zap, so they don't get a second chance on side bets by zapping and zapping also forfeits a Pot of Gold wager.
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June 27th, 2017 at 4:46:17 PM permalink
Crazy. What casino is this? Sounds intense for the player with a lot going on.
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June 27th, 2017 at 7:09:14 PM permalink
Ahhh....what casino is this, because I believe they will get crushed spreading Zappit Free Bet with only the Push 22 rule to compensate for Zapping and Free Betting...I am guessing you may be mistaken on what you saw and when you sat down to play, the difference would come to light.
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June 27th, 2017 at 9:47:08 PM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

Ahhh....what casino is this, because I believe they will get crushed spreading Zappit Free Bet with only the Push 22 rule to compensate for Zapping and Free Betting...I am guessing you may be mistaken on what you saw and when you sat down to play, the difference would come to light.


This is one of Switch's (Geoff Hall) game. This game maybe in Ireland (that was the last time I hear about this game).

This game does work, for more info ask Switch (Geoff Hall).
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June 27th, 2017 at 10:16:34 PM permalink
If the combo game works, it must have another mechanism besides Push 22...that would be the difference that is missing from the game explanation above.
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June 27th, 2017 at 10:23:12 PM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

If the combo game works, it must have another mechanism besides Push 22...that would be the difference that is missing from the game explanation above.


I will let Switch (Geoff Hall) know about this post. He can update more info on this game for you.
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June 28th, 2017 at 6:54:31 AM permalink
Sounds good, looking forward to knowing what Switch has come up with next!
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July 3rd, 2017 at 8:04:16 PM permalink
Quote: MrCasinoGames

I will let Switch (Geoff Hall) know about this post. He can update more info on this game for you.



It's possible to do a combination of the 2 games by using just the Push 22 mechanism but the way I explained it to the casino in Dublin is that the player has to make separate Free Bet and Zappit wagers (or can just choose to wager on just one of the variants). So, the layout would have a Free Bet spot and a Zappit spot and, although there are some tricky dealing procedures, it works quite well.
For example, a player sits down and wagers $10 on 'Free Bet' and $5 on 'Zappit'. If they are dealt 9, 10, 11 or a non-10 pair then they can take the free bet on the 'Free Bet' wager and pay to split, or double, on their 'Zappit' wager. The tricky part is if a player free doubles 9 verses dealer 10 but doesn't want to pay for the double. The player can then still hit the 'Zappit' hand if, for example, the dealer deals a 2 on the total of 9.
There are a few other tricky situations but I didn't think that any casino had gone ahead with combining the 2 games. It's possible that the original poster has actually seen a hybrid of free bet and Zappit which would give a huge advantage to the player if just the Push 22 was being used. The player would be able to do something 'good' with any Ace-9 pair, 9, 10, 11, 15, 16, 17 and 18 - quite a range of hands to receive in order to benefit.
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July 3rd, 2017 at 8:08:11 PM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

Sounds good, looking forward to knowing what Switch has come up with next!



Good timing Paradigm :-)
I'm actually heading to Vegas this Sunday to start training for the upcoming field trial of my new game 'Zombie Blackjack' (tagline: Bring your dead hands back to life).
I've sent Mike the details but not sure if he will have time to do anything before he heads off on his travels this weekend.
If not then I am happy to include some information here or, better still, the game will go live at The Venetian on the week beginning 17th July so drop in and see me that week :-)
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July 4th, 2017 at 7:39:29 AM permalink
I may be in town, sent you a PM
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