Slyfox16
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March 19th, 2017 at 8:27:22 PM permalink
For a blackjack player which casino has better conditions- Mohegan Sun or Foxwoods?
BleedingChipsSlowly
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March 19th, 2017 at 10:28:42 PM permalink
Mohegan Sun: 6 decks, dealer stands on soft 17, grandfathered at table limit you start with, unlimited splits, no splitting 10 value.

Foxwoods: 8 decks, dealer hits soft 17, you accept table limit increases to continue play, splits limited to 4, splitting 10 value allowed.

Both: blackjack pays 3:2, double on any two cards, double after split, one card on split aces no resplit, surrender allowed and also on splits. Dealt from shoe. 2:1 insurance pay.

Mohegan Sun cut card is at about 1.5 decks. I hear Foxwoods is slightly less than that. I hear at Foxwoods you can request a rule change for dealer to stand on soft 17 at high limit tables (50+).

Both offer bullshit low limit games unworthy of further comment.

Mohegan Sun has subdued lighting, especially in the Earth casino. Foxwoods has brightly lit table areas for the most part.
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houyi
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March 19th, 2017 at 11:56:17 PM permalink
Quote: Slyfox16

For a blackjack player which casino has better conditions- Mohegan Sun or Foxwoods?



For basic strategy, Mohegan. For counting, Foxwoods.

I think Foxwoods is a bit more generous with comp dollars, while Mohegan is more generous with mailers. Mohegan used to have better stuff to use the comp dollars on, but now that Foxwoods has the mall it's close. Mohegan has better restaurants IMO.
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March 20th, 2017 at 4:08:53 AM permalink
Mohegan has the better game as earlier described, provided you can find a seat. You can get shut out. Seating is less of a problem at their NMSE tables, which are usually at $50 min.

Easier finding a seat and choosing your base at Foxwoods.

Both offer $5 min craps. MS has 5X and Foxwoods 10X.
BleedingChipsSlowly
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March 20th, 2017 at 9:47:28 AM permalink
Quote: houyi

For basic strategy, Mohegan. For counting, Foxwoods. ...

As Tanko notes, Mohegan Sun has a better game in terms of rules: a 0.24% lower house edge according to the Wizard's tables. That is substantial when comparing the two rule sets. Is the some other factor leading you to prefer Foxwoods for counting? Less heat? Penetration deep enough to make a significant difference?
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houyi
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March 20th, 2017 at 2:56:44 PM permalink
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

As Tanko notes, Mohegan Sun has a better game in terms of rules: a 0.24% lower house edge according to the Wizard's tables. That is substantial when comparing the two rule sets. Is the some other factor leading you to prefer Foxwoods for counting? Less heat? Penetration deep enough to make a significant difference?



Mohegan Sun probably has the worst average pen on the east coast. I'd say average 66%. Obv some dealers are better than others, but at Foxwoods it's easy to find 88%. And you can always hit and run the high limit rooms at Foxwoods which have Mohegan rules and 6 decks, but significantly better pen. I'd still stick to the main floor though if you'll be coming back regularly in your rotation.
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May 30th, 2020 at 11:29:45 PM permalink
Foxwoods will be accepting out of state visitors when they re-open on Monday and will allow 25% capacity during the first week.
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May 31st, 2020 at 5:01:54 AM permalink
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Foxwoods will be accepting out of state visitors when they re-open on Monday and will allow 25% capacity during the first week.



Does 25% capacity mean an exact number of patrons? That they will have a counter and when it reaches a pre-determined number they will stop allowing anyone to enter? And when one patron leaves another is allowed to enter?

I have been at casinos that seemed to be way over any reasonable capacity.

Before this pandemic, were there actually times someone did a 'capacity' check on a Vegas casino and did not allow patrons in?
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May 31st, 2020 at 8:10:11 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Does 25% capacity mean an exact number of patrons? That they will have a counter and when it reaches a pre-determined number they will stop allowing anyone to enter? And when one patron leaves another is allowed to enter?



Curious what happens if a casino is at full capacity , with more customers waiting to get in, and a known whale shows up looking to play...
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May 31st, 2020 at 1:03:04 PM permalink
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Curious what happens if a casino is at full capacity , with more customers waiting to get in, and a known whale shows up looking to play...



That guy is not going to be queued up at the door waiting for a thermometer. The whale will surely ask, "So where's my special entrance?"

Plus, I wonder if "25% capacity" means one-quarter of every available seat. In the old days when you walked through a casino, how many empty, unopened tables, closed pits, and vacant slot machines did you see? Sure, a busy casino was crowded, with people wandering around, and on a Saturday night business was brisk. Thewre are too many entrances and exits to keep an accurate count, only letting in one person when someone else leaves.

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