Yokeoh
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February 22nd, 2015 at 10:05:26 AM permalink
About the only two indian casinos that i've been able to play at where dice determine the outcome of the roll are barona and sycuan. Unfortunately, barona has now switched to reshuffling the cards after every roll so you have to wait until they have set the cards out before figuring out the dice configuration. I hope it wasn't due to me because i never felt i had any outstanding rolls there, but the stickmen actually bypassed me a couple of times.
AlanMendelson
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February 22nd, 2015 at 10:52:24 AM permalink
I never played at Barona but heard the cards were dealt face up.
Yokeoh
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February 22nd, 2015 at 11:22:16 AM permalink
that is correct both barona and sycuan deal the cards face up or else i wouldn't be able to figure out how to set the dice. I just stick to as close a seven-set as i can get.
AlanMendelson
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February 22nd, 2015 at 4:34:25 PM permalink
Quote: Yokeoh

that is correct both barona and sycuan deal the cards face up or else i wouldn't be able to figure out how to set the dice. I just stick to as close a seven-set as i can get.



You're going to have to explain? Are you a darkside or right way player and what set would you use if the die-6 is a card-4 and so forth?
Ayecarumba
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February 22nd, 2015 at 4:50:48 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

You're going to have to explain? Are you a darkside or right way player and what set would you use if the die-6 is a card-4 and so forth?


Are the cards revealed before the bets are locked? How do "hardways" work?
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RS
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February 22nd, 2015 at 4:59:01 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Are the cards revealed before the bets are locked? How do "hardways" work?



If the dice land on 6-6, then the 6th card is used (twice). ie:

Die # : Card #
1: 5
2: 3
3: 6
4: 1
5: 2
6: 4


If I roll a 1-1 (dice show 1-1), then the #1 card is used twice for a hard-ten (5-5). If I roll a 5-6 (dice show 5-6) then those cards are used and the actual result is a 2-4 (easy 6). And so forth.



Some places reveal before dice are thrown, others don't. I remember barona did when I played there years ago. Don't know about now. At Barona, when I played there, they'd shuffle the 6 cards, put them face-up, and put them into their positions, and the cards would stay in that position as long as the same shooter had the dice. Once he sevened out, they'd shuffle the cards and put them in a different position.
Yokeoh
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February 22nd, 2015 at 6:35:20 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

You're going to have to explain? Are you a darkside or right way player and what set would you use if the die-6 is a card-4 and so forth?



I'm a right-way player. I try to get a dice set 7. I have to see what the 4/3 6/1 or 2/5 card is in what dice slot on the table and set the dice accordingly. I base on the hope that a throw with the dice rolling a few rolls should not end up back on that set
QueenofQuads
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March 20th, 2015 at 12:23:34 PM permalink
if you're ever up on the Lost Coast, check out Bear River Casino. the craps there is Barona-style.
PBguy
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May 22nd, 2015 at 11:59:54 PM permalink
Quote: RS

If the dice land on 6-6, then the 6th card is used (twice). ie:

Die # : Card #
1: 5
2: 3
3: 6
4: 1
5: 2
6: 4


If I roll a 1-1 (dice show 1-1), then the #1 card is used twice for a hard-ten (5-5). If I roll a 5-6 (dice show 5-6) then those cards are used and the actual result is a 2-4 (easy 6). And so forth.



Some places reveal before dice are thrown, others don't. I remember barona did when I played there years ago. Don't know about now. At Barona, when I played there, they'd shuffle the 6 cards, put them face-up, and put them into their positions, and the cards would stay in that position as long as the same shooter had the dice. Once he sevened out, they'd shuffle the cards and put them in a different position.



Barona changed their protocol last summer maybe June or July IIRC. Now they shuffle the cards (using an automatic shuffler) every roll. They have two sets of cards so one is always ready to be laid out. Sycuan and Viejas still only shuffle the cards after a shooter sevens out. Many regular Barona players have stopped playing there and now play at other casinos. My experience is that shuffling every roll has increased the volatility - my losses went up pretty dramatically after the change.
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May 23rd, 2015 at 1:10:57 AM permalink
Quote: PBguy

Barona changed their protocol last summer maybe June or July IIRC. Now they shuffle the cards (using an automatic shuffler) every roll. They have two sets of cards so one is always ready to be laid out. Sycuan and Viejas still only shuffle the cards after a shooter sevens out. Many regular Barona players have stopped playing there and now play at other casinos. My experience is that shuffling every roll has increased the volatility - my losses went up pretty dramatically after the change.

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