Yokeoh
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February 22nd, 2015 at 9:47:27 AM permalink
I had read that pechanga casino has a similar setup to barona, but that is not the case it uses two sets of cards A-6 that are put in a shuffler to simulate the roll. There are no dice involved but the setup simulates a dice roll. I have more confidence playing here then other california casinos that use multideck shoes.
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February 22nd, 2015 at 1:47:55 PM permalink
I don't know what setup Barona uses, but you might try Harrah's Rincon.

Six red cards, six green cards are placed face down on a layout. Roll red and green dice. Open the corresponding cards.

Alternatively, Pala uses a 36-card deck, representing each permutation. Two are placed face down. Gaffed blue and red dice are rolled, the corresponding card of the higher die is opened.

Edit, 2/23: No, I did not fix the number of cards in the deck, days after posting. Why would anybody think that? *blink*
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February 22nd, 2015 at 2:42:18 PM permalink
Quote: Yokeoh

I had read that pechanga casino has a similar setup to barona, but that is not the case it uses two sets of cards A-6 that are put in a shuffler to simulate the roll. There are no dice involved but the setup simulates a dice roll.



How do you know this information and how current is it?

Wizard section on California craps.
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February 22nd, 2015 at 3:06:51 PM permalink
Yes, i had relied on this description when deciding to visit pechanga. Other then the fact no dice are used the game is a fair representation of craps. Also this is based on my visit 2/21/15
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February 22nd, 2015 at 3:46:27 PM permalink
Quote: Yokeoh

Yes, i had relied on this description when deciding to visit pechanga. Other then the fact no dice are used the game is a fair representation of craps. Also this is based on my visit 2/21/15



Thanks. So, do you claim that Pechanga is now using the Agua Caliente method?
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February 22nd, 2015 at 4:11:23 PM permalink
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Thanks. So, do you claim that Pechanga is now using the Agua Caliente method?



Yes, it's like that description
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February 22nd, 2015 at 4:54:37 PM permalink
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Quote: Wizard

Thanks. So, do you claim that Pechanga is now using the Agua Caliente method?


Yes, it's like that description

I do not think they are the same
in other words, they are the same but different

next time I am at both I will take a few photos/videos

as I remember

Agua Caliente in Palm Springs right off the 10 freeway
uses two shuffle machines on the table next to boxman (I forget the machine name)
12 cards are on the table and 12 cards are in the machines being shuffled

the first cards of each color are turned up

Pechanga cut the rail by stick and installed the shuffle machine (there is only one)
that only uses 12 cards
6 of different color
6 in at a time in two different slots after the last roll is complete and players are making bets
I think Pechanga machine uses an rng to determine what card is drawn first that goes on the table in front of stick
from what I have read but I could be wrong

I would guess two phone calls would get a few answers too
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February 22nd, 2015 at 8:48:44 PM permalink
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Alternatively, Pala uses a 32-card deck, representing each permutation...

I hope that's a typo and you meant a 36 card deck...
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February 23rd, 2015 at 2:51:20 PM permalink
Thanks Sally for your take on this. I have updated my page yet again to show that the issue is under dispute.

I would indeed appreciate what you learn your next visit. If you can sneak photos, all the better! How about more of your shoes too.
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September 7th, 2015 at 9:57:09 AM permalink
This is the description for penchaga

Pechanga cut the rail by stick and installed the shuffle machine (there is only one)
that only uses 12 cards
6 of different color
6 in at a time in two different slots after the last roll is complete and players are making bets
I think Pechanga machine uses an rng to determine what card is drawn first that goes on the table in front of stick
from what I have read but I could be wrong

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