RossH
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February 12th, 2015 at 5:44:53 PM permalink
I just wanted to warn everyone that Jersey is up to its old tricks again. About 2 months ago my brother got caught doing 64 on the parkway in what is supposed to be a 65 MPH zone. He tried to present his case in court today to no avail. I'm writing this as a cautionary tale as the same thing happened to me on the parkway just past the New Grenta Toll plaza. If you get a ticket in Jersey you are automatically found guilty. Way to go Jersey, from keeping longtime AC players like me out of your state, with this BS. Stay safe and careful.
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February 12th, 2015 at 6:22:17 PM permalink
Contrary to what many people believe or assume, the Garden State Parkway is NOT 65 mph for the entire length. It's been a while since I was in that area, but I think that's normally a 55 mph zone.

It's quite possible that due to winds or other weather conditions, they may have reduced the limit.
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February 12th, 2015 at 8:02:22 PM permalink
Some interstates in Pensylvana had 45 mph speed limits imposed, because of those storms.

I don't know if they covered the original speed limit signs, or if New Jersey also set a temporary lower limit.
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February 12th, 2015 at 10:53:46 PM permalink
NJTP/GSP routinely have reduced speeds due to weather. Tune in WCBS 880 for a clue. The GSP is a State Parkway just like the Merritt in CT.
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
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February 13th, 2015 at 5:15:11 AM permalink
With all the construction on all parts of the Parkway speeds are lower accordingly and clearly marked.
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February 13th, 2015 at 6:02:50 AM permalink
The drop to 45 MPH is clearly marked in both of the extended construction zones. The stretch of road from mile markers 80 to 100 in both directions is normally 55 MPH. The work being done presently in that zone is to widen the road and add full shoulders, which were previously lacking. Once that job is complete, the speed limit will be raised to 65 MPH. In the southern part, they are adding a third travel lane. Once that work is done, they will be restoring the 65 MPH speed limit.
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February 13th, 2015 at 6:19:41 AM permalink
No wonder people skip AC. Tolls, traffic, lower speed limits, what a headache. I-78 to Sends always clear, 65mph and no tolls. Only 1.5 hours from the city.
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February 13th, 2015 at 6:27:26 AM permalink
The troopers run radar on the Parkway North between The White Horse Pike and New Gretna every day. Cars blow through the widening project at 80 MPH plus in a 45 MPH zone. The funny thing is, they don't bother anyone at 60 or even 65. They want the big ones.
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February 13th, 2015 at 6:54:18 AM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

No wonder people skip AC. I-78 to Sands always clear, 65mph and no tolls. Only 1.5 hours from the city.



Only 300 hotel rooms at the Sands PA.

It took me sooo long to find out...but I found out.
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February 13th, 2015 at 8:14:10 AM permalink
All kidding aside and I am sure all of you are great drivers. Personally, I have had employees killed on the interstate and 2 lane highways over the years (3 total). It is serious and some people's driving cause others to wreck as well. It is a whole different world handling a vehicle at 55 to 80 than 45mph. 90% of my work is on highways at wreck scenes and I would estimate we have had 50 serious/fatality crashes over the years out of approx. 500 on-scene crash site jobs. I had an employee with young kids die in my arms and he was seriously doing everything right and the vehicle was hit by a semi in a work zone and careened down the embankment and took out one of my guys. There was a serious crash I read about in NJ where something like that happened and 2 workers got killed well off the roadway. Please take the speed limit serious if no place else at a work zone or where there is a traffic crash already. Thanks!
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February 13th, 2015 at 9:57:01 AM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

Only 300 hotel rooms at the Sands PA.

It took me sooo long to find out...but I found out.



Giggle. And trying to drive there up the PA turnpike from Philly is enough to put your mind on the brink. Much more stressful than a $12 trainride to AC.
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February 13th, 2015 at 10:07:10 AM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

No wonder people skip AC. Tolls, traffic, lower speed limits, what a headache. I-78 to Sends always clear, 65mph and no tolls. Only 1.5 hours from the city.



You ever drive 78 in rush hour traffic? No thanks. I'll take my chances on the Parkway.
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February 14th, 2015 at 6:22:34 AM permalink
GSP is always under construction. Annoying!
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February 24th, 2015 at 11:43:53 AM permalink
Quote: Frogger

GSP is always under construction. Annoying!



And it will be for the next few years. I think that project is due to be done in 2017.
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February 24th, 2015 at 5:25:06 PM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

No wonder people skip AC. Tolls, traffic, lower speed limits, what a headache. I-78 to Sends always clear, 65mph and no tolls. Only 1.5 hours from the city.



I agree with you. But for me getting to the Sands would mean I would have to drive in Jersey which I will never do again. I'm done with Jersey all together. The people from out of state willing to put money into their state, yet the tax revenue from them isn't enough, to where they end up having to set the speed limits ridiculously low on the highways and then ticket those same tourists who provided that valuable revenue to the state to where it screws their jobs. No thanks.
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February 24th, 2015 at 6:24:53 PM permalink
I was in that area Monday afternoon and it was a mess with the construction. The GSP was down to one lane with lane shifts. 45 MPH was probably needed. What I didn't like it went from 45 to 65 to 55 to 45 and back to 65 all between the AC service center and exit 36 going southbound.
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February 25th, 2015 at 9:24:23 AM permalink
Quote: thegov2k2

And it will be for the next few years. I think that project is due to be done in 2017.



GREAT EGG HARBOR BRIDGE IMPROVEMENTS

Location: Atlantic and Cape May counties
Description: A new southbound span will be built to the west of the existing southbound span over Great Egg Harbor and Drag Channel. The existing southbound span will be demolished. The nearby Beasley’s Point Bridge on Route 9 will also be demolished as part of this project.
Schedule: Construction of the new span began in 2013 and is scheduled to be completed in 2016.
Further information: : To learn more about the project, read the Presentation or the Handout from the September 2012 public hearing.

BASS RIVER BRIDGE WIDENING

Location: Burlington County
Description: A new span will be built alongside the existing span, and the existing span will be redecked, repaired, and upgraded. The project is part of the second phase of the MP 30-80 Widening Project.
Schedule: Construction of the new span was completed in 2013. Rehabilitation of the existing span is scheduled to be completed in 2015.
Further information: Garden State Parkway Widening Project

INTERCHANGE 30 TO 80 WIDENING

Location: Atlantic, Burlington, and Ocean counties
Description: The Parkway will be widened from two to three lanes in each direction. Express E-ZPass will be added at the Barnegat Toll Plaza.
Schedule: The project is being built in phases. Construction on the first phase of the widening (adding a lane in each direction between Mileposts 63 and 80 and installing Express E-ZPass at the Barnegat Toll Plaza) was completed in May 2011. Construction on the second phase (adding a lane in each direction from Mileposts 48 to 63 and making grading and drainage improvements from mileposts 30 to 48) began in 2011. The new lanes were completed and opened to traffic from Mileposts 52 to 63 in the summer of 2013. The remainder of the second phase will not open to traffic until the completion of the Bass River Bridge rehabilitation in 2015.Construction on the third phase of the Widening (Mileposts 35 to 48) began in 2014 and is scheduled to be completed in 2017.
Further information: Garden State Parkway Widening Project / Phase 3 Public Hearing Handout / Phase 3 Public Hearing Record
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February 25th, 2015 at 10:19:19 AM permalink
More construction...

Except for the gas station, the AC Rest Area @GSPW has been closed for renovation. There was no warning signs for the closing. I drove in there for nothing, and I got really pissed off. So I had to drive all the way to the Forked River Rest Area to piss.

By the way, it's the quota time for speed tickets. i.e., near the end of the month. There were 4 cars got pulled over by the GSPW cops between AC rest area to Monmouth Rest Area. Be careful guys.
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February 25th, 2015 at 11:38:41 AM permalink
Quote: RossH

I agree with you. But for me getting to the Sands would mean I would have to drive in Jersey which I will never do again. I'm done with Jersey all together. The people from out of state willing to put money into their state, yet the tax revenue from them isn't enough, to where they end up having to set the speed limits ridiculously low on the highways and then ticket those same tourists who provided that valuable revenue to the state to where it screws their jobs. No thanks.



New Jersey is a whole lot less of a speedtrap state than most.
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February 25th, 2015 at 1:19:44 PM permalink
Quote: bobsims

New Jersey is a whole lot less of a speedtrap state than most.




Ticket quotas are illegal in NJ by state statute. That said I am happy when I see an officer or trooper issuing a summons to someone driving like a maniac.
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February 25th, 2015 at 3:05:35 PM permalink
Quote: RossH

, to where they end up having to set the speed limits ridiculously low on the highways and then ticket those same tourists who provided that valuable revenue to the state to where it screws their jobs. No thanks.



As others have said, this was an active Work Zone. Maybe you'd enjoy people doing 65MPH five feet from you while you are at work every day? While they are looking at their phones, eating their breakfast, or trying to grab something from the backseat? I can't speak for everyone in Jersey, but if you like to go 20-25 over in Construction Zones, we will not miss you.
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February 28th, 2015 at 11:31:54 PM permalink
Quote: cclub79

As others have said, this was an active Work Zone. Maybe you'd enjoy people doing 65MPH five feet from you while you are at work every day? While they are looking at their phones, eating their breakfast, or trying to grab something from the backseat? I can't speak for everyone in Jersey, but if you like to go 20-25 over in Construction Zones, we will not miss you.



When I got stopped there were no workers, and my brother said the same thing.
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March 1st, 2015 at 3:49:04 AM permalink
When I got stopped there were no workers, and my brother said the same thing.

You both probably going so fast you couldn't see the signs or the workers.
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March 1st, 2015 at 6:25:05 AM permalink
I change my mind.
I'm OK with Corps which pick and choose clienteles. Both insurance companies and casinos have the right to pick and choose customers. They may keep profitable ones and kicked out the rest. But, I'm not OK with a casino supervisor who says counting cards... is like stealing food from a buffet (a foodlifting offense), or video-taping a movie in a cinema (a piracy offense).
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March 1st, 2015 at 6:37:52 AM permalink
Quote: Artemis

It's a catch-22-situation. If you drive 49mph on GSPW, you would get rear-ended by speedy buses or other zigzagging drivers. If you do over 49mph, you would get ticketed by cops by the construction area.



I have lived in NJ for my whole life, driven the Parkway many times a week, I have never seen someone get ticketed going 4 miles over the limit in any zone on the Parkway.
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March 1st, 2015 at 7:17:09 AM permalink
NJ/NY does not need quotas, there are plenty of motorists well deserving of multiple tickets, vehicle seizure, and incarceration without having to make it up.
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March 1st, 2015 at 1:29:07 PM permalink
Around here, occasionally on a 70mph highway, we'll get a construction zone with a 60mph speed limit, 45mph where workers are present. It is your responsibility to figure out if there are workers present or not.

It sounds like in NJ, the construciton speed limit in this case is 45, whether or not there are workers present. So, you don't have the responsibility to figure it out, you just have to drive 45.

If everybody is speeding, and the cops are picking off a few here and there, that's just tough luck.
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March 1st, 2015 at 2:19:57 PM permalink
I change my mind.
I'm OK with Corps which pick and choose clienteles. Both insurance companies and casinos have the right to pick and choose customers. They may keep profitable ones and kicked out the rest. But, I'm not OK with a casino supervisor who says counting cards... is like stealing food from a buffet (a foodlifting offense), or video-taping a movie in a cinema (a piracy offense).
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March 1st, 2015 at 5:22:16 PM permalink
I'm sure Ross wouldn't like it tonight. The GSP and AC expressway have reduced speeds at 35mph due to ice conditions.
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March 7th, 2015 at 4:09:14 AM permalink
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All kidding aside and I am sure all of you are great drivers. Personally, I have had employees killed on the interstate and 2 lane highways over the years (3 total). It is serious and some people's driving cause others to wreck as well. It is a whole different world handling a vehicle at 55 to 80 than 45mph. 90% of my work is on highways at wreck scenes and I would estimate we have had 50 serious/fatality crashes over the years out of approx. 500 on-scene crash site jobs. I had an employee with young kids die in my arms and he was seriously doing everything right and the vehicle was hit by a semi in a work zone and careened down the embankment and took out one of my guys. There was a serious crash I read about in NJ where something like that happened and 2 workers got killed well off the roadway. Please take the speed limit serious if no place else at a work zone or where there is a traffic crash already. Thanks!



New Jersey Turnpike Authority officials apologized yesterday for road conditions on the Parkway. Icy roads had traffic at a standstill for almost an hour in the Asbury Park area.
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March 16th, 2015 at 7:44:39 AM permalink
Quote: Baccaratfrom79

All kidding aside and I am sure all of you are great drivers. Personally, I have had employees killed on the interstate and 2 lane highways over the years (3 total). It is serious and some people's driving cause others to wreck as well. It is a whole different world handling a vehicle at 55 to 80 than 45mph. 90% of my work is on highways at wreck scenes and I would estimate we have had 50 serious/fatality crashes over the years out of approx. 500 on-scene crash site jobs. I had an employee with young kids die in my arms and he was seriously doing everything right and the vehicle was hit by a semi in a work zone and careened down the embankment and took out one of my guys. There was a serious crash I read about in NJ where something like that happened and 2 workers got killed well off the roadway. Please take the speed limit serious if no place else at a work zone or where there is a traffic crash already. Thanks!



I'm a little confused. Was it three employees killed or two?
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March 16th, 2015 at 8:16:35 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

I'm a little confused. Was it three employees killed or two?



This is the very last time I will engage you about this. I had one other pass away in my arms at a site. I had other employee's, years ago in another business die in the hospital after their transport from the highway site. You do the math and I am sure you will come up with the answer, you are on an AP'er board and undoubtedly put math professors and casino owners to shame. 2 in my current business and 2 in the past. End of story.

Please ignore my posts if you don't believe me, you insult yourself by continuing to read anything I post. Do you read the transgender section also?? What is the status on your garbage at your house??
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March 16th, 2015 at 8:20:08 AM permalink
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This is the very last time I will engage you about this. I had one other pass away in my arms at a site. I had another one years ago in another business die in the hospital after the transport from the highway site. End of story.



OK. So when you say "3 total" you actually mean 2. 2 is still 2 too many, but geez...how are we supposed to believe anything you ever say when you can't keep your own stories about death and tragedy straight? What could possibly be more important than the loss of life...
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March 19th, 2015 at 3:02:41 PM permalink
Quote: Baccaratfrom79

This is the very last time I will engage you about this. I had one other pass away in my arms at a site. I had other employee's, years ago in another business die in the hospital after their transport from the highway site. You do the math and I am sure you will come up with the answer, you are on an AP'er board and undoubtedly put math professors and casino owners to shame. 2 in my current business and 2 in the past. End of story.

Please ignore my posts if you don't believe me, you insult yourself by continuing to read anything I post. Do you read the transgender section also?? What is the status on your garbage at your house??



I don't think it's my math skills or lack thereof. You say four killed in this condescending post, two in your current business and two in the past. That's four - 2+2. In a post right above this one you say three killed, three total as you yourself stated. In another thread that you started you say two killed. Is it two, three or four?

Bringing up transgender and asking about garbage at my house isn't going to change anything.
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March 19th, 2015 at 3:36:54 PM permalink
Interesting...that post materially changed from when I quoted it to when 1bb did.
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March 19th, 2015 at 3:46:38 PM permalink
A Public Works employee in my state was killed today while fixing potholes. It happened in the town of Tolland, Ct. The story can be found on masslive.com, wtnh.com, wfsb.com, foxct.com, nbcconnecticut.com, the Norwich Bulletin, and the Hartford Courant to name a few.
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March 19th, 2015 at 5:11:03 PM permalink
Quote: bobsims

New Jersey is a whole lot less of a speedtrap state than most.



QFT. The majority of drivers speed in NJ, if only by a little. The police in most places I've been to are pretty lenient. I've never gotten a speeding ticket and I've been driving here for years, almost always speeding by a few miles to 15 miles above speed limit. Hell on many local but out of the way roads I push 65 in 45s, and I have never been pulled over when an officer passed me. I have, however, been pulled over for speeding once (65 in a 45, business district not highway so I was asking for it.) Still I was let off with a warning (although there were a couple reasons for that and most people wouldn't have gotten a warning in that situation.)

On the other hand I have gotten a ticket (for the dumbest thing) which was broken license plate light. The officer dropped the ticket for failing to wait 4 seconds at a red light, since that would have been worse. It can be a pain to drive in Jersey at times but it's by no means a speed trap or anything similar. For the most part you can get away with a lot of little things in Jersey, but I am always happy to see some crazy road rage driver get pulled over.

For the 4 times I've been pulled over in Jersey I got one ticket, and a minor one at that. Maybe I'm great at talking to cops, maybe you're not as great. Maybe I just get the way Jersey cops think better. Or maybe I've gotten lucky. I like to think it's because NJ Police don't care about most little traffic violations if they are reasonable.
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March 19th, 2015 at 8:39:30 PM permalink
I had never heard of that 4 second law.
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March 24th, 2015 at 10:39:46 AM permalink
Some I'm driving down to AC for my weekly visit this past Sunday and I'm near the area in question when I notice this big black suv with no front plate coming up rather quickly on my left side, I'm thinking this has to be a trooper, FBI or NCIS vehicle because I'm already in the left lane. But no it was some moron from PA making his own lane to the left of the yellow line with the cones on it. Thank God he realized the error of his ways and jammed his brakes on before he rammed the concrete barrier and killed himself and his family.
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June 5th, 2015 at 3:32:52 PM permalink
Just wanted to mention that my brother again comming back from court the other day once again got caught for the same shit. This time up by Brick. Nice to see Jersey knows how to treat tourists.
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June 5th, 2015 at 3:40:57 PM permalink
Quote: RossH

Just wanted to mention that my brother again comming back from court the other day once again got caught for the same shit. This time up by Brick. Nice to see Jersey knows how to treat tourists.



You mean the same way pretty much every state does?

I have never seen or heard of a state court waive a traffic ticket because a tourist was not familiar with local traffic laws...
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June 5th, 2015 at 3:51:41 PM permalink
There is a difference between local traffic laws and setting the speed limit unrealistcly low. Find me someone who can safely drive 45 on the parkway.
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June 5th, 2015 at 3:52:12 PM permalink
Quote: RossH

Just wanted to mention that my brother again comming back from court the other day once again got caught for the same shit. This time up by Brick. Nice to see Jersey knows how to treat tourists.


How many times does it take putting your hands in fire does it take to know you get burnt? It's the same way with speeding, look for the signs in construction zones, if they say 45 you slow down. I don't understand the problem. These areas are well posted, just obey the posted limit.
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June 5th, 2015 at 4:50:07 PM permalink
Quote: RossH

There is a difference between local traffic laws and setting the speed limit unrealistcly low. Find me someone who can safely drive 45 on the parkway.


Obviously not a Walmart truck driver.
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June 10th, 2015 at 3:34:33 PM permalink
If you can safely drive 45 on the parkway prove it. The issue is that NJ gets you into their rigged municipal courts and then forces you if you want a fair trial to spend tons of $$$$. I remember my trial in Secaucus was so badly rigged that the prosecutor didn't even challenge my appeal. I had to spend $500 for something that should be free. The right to cross examine the witness.
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June 10th, 2015 at 3:50:18 PM permalink
Okay, but are there any rap concerts going on nearby?
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June 10th, 2015 at 4:18:58 PM permalink
The funny thing is that the towns see very little of that money. 95% of that money goes tithe state. That is why parking tickets are such a big deal to these towns.
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June 10th, 2015 at 4:36:32 PM permalink
Quote: jerrysnj

How many times does it take putting your hands in fire does it take to know you get burnt? It's the same way with speeding, look for the signs in construction zones, if they say 45 you slow down. I don't understand the problem. These areas are well posted, just obey the posted limit.

The segment between Exits 100 and 80 were lowered to 55 mph (before the widening) by Corzine for no other reason than to raise money for Brick and neighboring townships. The pure BS line about safety has never been borne out by any published statistics.
SanchoPanza
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June 10th, 2015 at 4:38:05 PM permalink
Quote: aerules

The funny thing is that the towns see very little of that money. 95% of that money goes tithe state. That is why parking tickets are such a big deal to these towns.

That's odd. Tickets for moving violations are usually issued and are usually answerable in municipal courts, not at the level of the State Superior Courts.
jerrysnj
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June 10th, 2015 at 5:16:08 PM permalink
The state gets most of the money because it's a state statute that is being written. The municipal court collects the money but sends most to the state. Most parking tickets are written on city ordinances and the city keeps most of that even though there is a couple of dollars the state mandated to be added to all tickets for certain funds. Some of these things are money making schemes but the fact is if the speed limit is posted for 45, 55 or 65 just do that or pretty close to it and you won't have a problem.
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