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January 25th, 2014 at 3:30:50 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

without getting in to all the details. I read a casino report where some guy had some kind of fake money transfer scam to the casinos. he already took a fair some of money, The report said the scam was so good he probably would have never got caught and made millions.

The only reason he got caught...... he told his girl friend what he was doing. She got mad at him for something (no doubt cheating on her) she called the casino he had planned on doing it to next and ratted on him.



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January 25th, 2014 at 7:40:18 AM permalink
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Or toss them in the ocean. Last I read, AC was in fact on the coast. Those who found them onshore could simply tell the cage and police they were with the seashells.



or - if you're determined to flush them - why not a public restroom vs. the toilet assigned to your name LOL?
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January 25th, 2014 at 3:49:41 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Why use fake chips in the first place? Why not just pocket some real chips from a different smaller buy-in tourney and re introduce them at a bigger one?


This came up on the most recent GWAE radio show - Munchkin was saying how it's an open secret how much cheating happens in poker tournaments, mostly surrounding bringing in chips. Except usually they aren't actually counterfeit chips, they are something like the situation you describe, where they pocket some chips from a low buy-in tournament and then bring them into their stack in a much much higher buy-in tournament when switching tables or something.

I was pretty surprised, I would think the casinos would be better at monitoring this kind of situation. The way he was talking, it was almost like if you're not cheating, you don't stand a chance.
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January 25th, 2014 at 3:58:38 PM permalink
I'm shocked, shocked to find that cheating is going on in here!
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January 26th, 2014 at 3:46:42 AM permalink
Room and food comped.

Limo and tickets to the Super Bowl, with return to AC, full comp.

What do you suppose the average wager and front money/credit line is expected/required?

I'd imagine AC is quit full for Super Bowl weekend.
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January 28th, 2014 at 6:23:52 PM permalink
Caesars Is Said to Weigh Bid for Revel Casino in Atlantic City

Caesars Entertainment Corp. (CZR:US) is considering a bid for Revel Casino Hotel, the Atlantic City, New Jersey, property that went through bankruptcy last year, according to people with knowledge of the situation.

A bid from Caesars isn’t certain, said the people, who asked not to be named because deliberations are private. Offers for the property, which opened in April 2012, are due in two weeks, and no negotiations are under way, they said.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-01-28/caesars-is-said-to-weigh-bid-for-revel-casino-in-atlantic-city
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January 28th, 2014 at 6:48:47 PM permalink
Quote: 7star4now

Caesars Is Said to Weigh Bid for Revel Casino in Atlantic City



So they can run that into the ground like they did Ballys?
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January 28th, 2014 at 6:52:46 PM permalink
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So they can run that into the ground like they did Ballys?



LOL - but they had a 30 yr head start @ Ballys

maybe they'll re-carpet Revel in 1960-70's motif?

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January 28th, 2014 at 7:22:57 PM permalink
Quote: bw

So they can run that into the ground like they did Ballys?




The Bally's casino floor remodel looks beautiful actually
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January 28th, 2014 at 7:29:48 PM permalink
Sounds too dangerous as it is with Caesars owning so much already in Atlantic City leaving it in utter chaos if Caesars would fold under. Rooting for Hard Rock just for the health of the city and the spirit of real competition. I just think AC is moved to intensive care if Caesars wins. Take that credit card away from them.
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January 28th, 2014 at 8:25:17 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Sounds too dangerous as it is with Caesars owning so much already in Atlantic City leaving it in utter chaos if Caesars would fold under. Rooting for Hard Rock just for the health of the city and the spirit of real competition. I just think AC is moved to intensive care if Caesars wins. Take that credit card away from them.



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January 29th, 2014 at 1:33:06 AM permalink
They need to let some online casinos buy it up.
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January 29th, 2014 at 4:31:28 AM permalink
Caesars is only looking to take it for pennies on the dollar by assuming debt, just like they did when they bought PH in LV by spending no money. Face it, they have no money to spend and adding debt isn't going to make their situation any worse, since it cant get much worse.

Buying Revel and closing Showboat would probably add gaming revenue to AC by allowing them to use their TR membership base to attract Customers and World Class entertainment to a potential first class facility. It might be enough to get people who have not visited AC in years to give it another shot.

I don't see any other buyer being able to do this. And face it, the debt holders of Revel already lost their equity a long time ago, so Caesars may be the best option for Revel.
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January 29th, 2014 at 5:34:39 AM permalink
I agree that Caesars would be the likely buyer since their new strategy seems to be taking on as much debt as possible -in hopes of becoming "too big to fail? -" vs. taking care of their customers & making profits.

I still think Borgata could declare "checkmate" in AC market share if they bought Revel. I think there are a large #of people like me who would love to be Borgata customers- were it on the boardwalk.
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January 29th, 2014 at 7:08:07 AM permalink
Quote: 7star4now

I agree that Caesars would be the likely buyer since their new strategy seems to be taking on as much debt as possible -in hopes of becoming "too big to fail? -" vs. taking care of their customers & making profits.

I still think Borgata could declare "checkmate" in AC market share if they bought Revel. I think there are a large #of people like me who would love to be Borgata customers- were it on the boardwalk.



I respectfully disagree in that I believe Borgata would have a hard time attracting new customers that they dont already have and may only move business around. I dont see either MGM or Boyd opening up the Player bases from Vegas to get them to come to AC. However I do see Caesars using a World Class facility, which Revel can be with some design changes that whoever ends up with it will have to do, to get players back to AC who long left it because of multiple reason Caesars created with the service issues and property quality issues you hit upon.

Run correctly, the new Caesars Revel would be the number 2 casino in revenue with months.
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January 29th, 2014 at 7:12:20 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

I respectfully disagree in that I believe Borgata would have a hard time attracting new customers that they dont already have and may only move business around. I dont see either MGM or Boyd opening up the Player bases from Vegas to get them to come to AC. However I do see Caesars using a World Class facility, which Revel can be with some design changes that whoever ends up with it will have to do, to get players back to AC who long left it because of multiple reason Caesars created with the service issues and property quality issues you hit upon.

Run correctly, the new Caesars Revel would be the number 2 casino in revenue with months.



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January 29th, 2014 at 7:32:37 AM permalink
Quote: 7star4now

I think there are a large #of people like me who would love to be Borgata customers- were it on the boardwalk.



I frequent AC on a weekly basis, and over the years I've stayed at every property in the city, and I am of the opinion that the Borgata is "head and shoulders" above the majority of its local competing hotel/casinos. The only other hotel/casino that can measure up to the Borgata's standards is Harrahs.

Think about that for a minute, 7star4now, if you will. You mentioned "if it were on the Boardwalk"...yet both of these casino/hotels are Marina-based and off the famed boardwalk.

I much prefer the "Borgata experience", as a whole, over anything that the "boards" can do for me. And let's bear in mind that we're in winter's season, rendering the boards even less relevance.

Lastly, if one were that interested, one could still stay at the Marina and simply take the short ride over to the boardwalk to enjoy its ambience, which is exactly what I would do if I were so inclined.
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January 29th, 2014 at 3:05:03 PM permalink
Let me ask a question. Do you guys think if Caesars (or Hard Rock) bought Revel, would they change the name or just add to it?

What names would you give this spot?
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January 29th, 2014 at 3:09:19 PM permalink
The Hard Rock would definitely call it Hard Rock AC or HR something.

According to a person at the Grand who sounded like they knew what they were talking about, CET has decided the Harrah's brand has more value than Caesar's and is renaming several properties, including the Grand, which will be Harrah's Gulf Coast. If they've done the study, I bet they would rebrand Revel as Harrah's, and the current Harrah's would become a Horseshoe. JMHO.
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January 29th, 2014 at 3:23:01 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

Let me ask a question. Do you guys think if Caesars (or Hard Rock) bought Revel, would they change the name or just add to it?

What names would you give this spot?



Actually. one of the only good marketing decision I thought Kevin DeBloomberg made was naming it "Revel". It did connote a sense of "sophisticated fun" to me.

However I think the name "Revel" may have to go, as it carries too much baggage w/ AC (& others on this board) gamblers.

How about a gaudy remodel & rename it Caesars Palace East?

(& I also feel Caesars AC could use a major facelift, so I would rename it "Great Caesars Ghost" for now?)
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January 29th, 2014 at 3:58:15 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

Let me ask a question. Do you guys think if Caesars (or Hard Rock) bought Revel, would they change the name or just add to it?

What names would you give this spot?

I wouldn't want to have to pay to continue to have the "Revel brand" depending on the actual cost and what it might actually entail. So much baggage with it and who needs all that.
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January 29th, 2014 at 4:07:34 PM permalink
Anyone think CET should shut down Bally's and Showboat - funnel all their players to Caesars AC, Revel and Harrah's?
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January 29th, 2014 at 4:14:01 PM permalink
On the subject of who should own Revel, a guy I met last year at Revel claimed one of the bids to NJ, to operate Revel, was a Macau casino operator who said they could fill the place with Macau players on weekly junkets :

Las Vegas Sands’ figures top Nevada, Atlantic City combined
http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/revenue-juggernaut-las-vegas-sands-figures-top-nevada-atlantic-city-combined

some #'s that amaze me:

"For all of 2013, the company’s Macau casinos saw revenues increase 37 percent to $8.96 billion and a net income of $2.21 billion, a 79.7 percent increase...

The Venetian Macau alone, which anchors the Cotai Strip, contributed net revenues of $1.149 billion in the fourth quarter and full-year revenues of $3.851 billion...

Las Vegas Sands President of Global Gaming Operations Rob Goldstein said he expects the Venetian Macau to become the first casino in the world to produce $2 billion a quarter in revenues."....


Imagine what could have been - or still could be?
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January 29th, 2014 at 4:14:41 PM permalink
If Caesars buys Revel, they should certainly shut down Showboat. I think Bally's is still in a really good spot, and it's kind of merged with Caesars AC anyway. You don't have to go outside to get from Caesars to Bally's.
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January 29th, 2014 at 4:15:04 PM permalink
Quote: 7star4now

On the subject of who should own Revel, a guy I met last year at Revel claimed one of the bids to NJ, to operate Revel, was a Macau casino operator who said they could fill the place with Macau players on weekly junkets :



That would be awesome.
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January 29th, 2014 at 4:22:56 PM permalink
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That would be awesome.




sodawater - you would have company, for a change, at the Pai Gow tiles tables!
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January 29th, 2014 at 4:24:37 PM permalink
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sodawater - you would have company, for a change, at the Pai Gow tiles tables!



Last two times i was at revel, the Pai Gow Tiles wasn't even going. :(
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January 29th, 2014 at 4:25:16 PM permalink
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Last two times i was at revel, the Pai Gow Tiles wasn't even going. :(





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January 30th, 2014 at 7:43:36 AM permalink
Quote: 7star4now

rename it "Great Caesars Ghost" for now?)


Ah, Perry White is still alive! ;-)
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January 30th, 2014 at 12:17:21 PM permalink
"If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it." - Julius Caesar


Sen. James Whelan, a former Atlantic City mayor, says he voiced concern to casino regulators and Gov. Chris Christie's office that the potential sale of Revel to Caesars Entertainment would violate a provision of New Jersey law prohibiting one company from owning too much of the casino market.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/0721a96e023d451daf5a1f05b34a3ab7/NJ--Revel-Sale-Monopoly
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January 30th, 2014 at 12:20:34 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Anyone think CET should shut down Bally's and Showboat - funnel all their players to Caesars AC, Revel and Harrah's?



Showboat yeah I can't see it staying open if CET gets their hands on Revel....unless they see value in it as a low roller joint. Which it pretty much is already. But Bally's being right next to Caesars makes too much sense to keep open. They already essentially function as one big casino anyway.
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January 30th, 2014 at 12:22:11 PM permalink
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"If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it." - Julius Caesar


Sen. James Whelan, a former Atlantic City mayor, says he voiced concern to casino regulators and Gov. Chris Christie's office that the potential sale of Revel to Caesars Entertainment would violate a provision of New Jersey law prohibiting one company from owning too much of the casino market.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/0721a96e023d451daf5a1f05b34a3ab7/NJ--Revel-Sale-Monopoly



They went through this in Mississippi 10 years ago, when Harrah's bought the Grand Biloxi&Gulfport properties and 3 in Tunica; they were over the ownership percentage. They turned around and sold the Gulfport property and one of the Tunica's (can't recall which) and I think consolidated 2 into 1 there, keeping the hotel but combining the casino. Details could be wrong, but it's been done.
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January 30th, 2014 at 12:23:52 PM permalink
In a non Revel related matter. I'm going to be in AC for super bowl weekend. Anyone know, if either the buffet at Caesars (it was closed for a while being remodeled) or Ballys which they closed a while ago in the WWWest area, is open? My wife and son like a good buffet. Just curious.
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January 30th, 2014 at 3:58:32 PM permalink
I believe Caesars is opened but really expensive. I could be wrong since I havent been there since summer.
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January 30th, 2014 at 4:05:54 PM permalink
Caesars is open. I don't know about Ballys. We stopped checking it's been closed for so long.
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January 30th, 2014 at 4:23:37 PM permalink
Quote: vendman1

In a non Revel related matter. I'm going to be in AC for super bowl weekend. Anyone know, if either the buffet at Caesars (it was closed for a while being remodeled) or Ballys which they closed a while ago in the WWWest area, is open? My wife and son like a good buffet. Just curious.



Caesars is open and is much nicer than before, though still an AC buffet which just dont compare to even a mid level Las Vegas one. I actually like the Harrahs Ac better than Caesars and in my opinion is worth the cab or Jitney ride across town.
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January 30th, 2014 at 4:51:36 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Caesars is open and is much nicer than before, though still an AC buffet which just dont compare to even a mid level Las Vegas one. I actually like the Harrahs Ac better than Caesars and in my opinion is worth the cab or Jitney ride across town.



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January 30th, 2014 at 5:18:45 PM permalink
Agreed, Harrahs has the best buffet among the CET properties. But I have a wife and 3 year old in tow...so we may just stay in the building. Thanks for the update.
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January 30th, 2014 at 6:56:02 PM permalink
They installed several large screen HDTVs along the back wall of the Caesars buffet, so you can even watch the game there. The room is much larger and wide open, plenty of room to chase a toddler around up there.
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January 31st, 2014 at 9:41:28 AM permalink
I went to the new Caesars buffet last week. The cost for the buffet was $25 and that was at 2pm. The dinner price would probably be a couple of more dollars. It was an improvement over the old buffet but not by much. Since this was my first time at the new buffet, I decided to walk the line to see what was available. There was Chinese, salad bar, Italian, soup, American, Sea food. Next was the yogurt/ice cream station. Then there was the dessert station. I was at the dessert station and thought 'Where the heck is the carving station'?
The carving station was located at the very end of the food line. Do you remember where the old dessert station was at the old buffet? That's where the carving station is located. To me it seemed an odd location. The carving station should have been located at the main food line with the rest of the food but that's just my opinion.

I don't think that it was worth the price.
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January 31st, 2014 at 9:53:01 AM permalink
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I went to the new Caesars buffet last week. The cost for the buffet was $25 and that was at 2pm. The dinner price would probably be a couple of more dollars. It was an improvement over the old buffet but not by much. Since this was my first time at the new buffet, I decided to walk the line to see what was available. There was Chinese, salad bar, Italian, soup, American, Sea food. Next was the yogurt/ice cream station. Then there was the dessert station. I was at the dessert station and thought 'Where the heck is the carving station'?
The carving station was located at the very end of the food line. Do you remember where the old dessert station was at the old buffet? That's where the carving station is located. To me it seemed an odd location. The carving station should have been located at the main food line with the rest of the food but that's just my opinion.

I don't think that it was worth the price.

It's expensive, but their chips, hummus and Baba Ganoush was awesome and so were the desserts.

Dinner is $31-32 I think mainly to subsidize all the BOGO offer coupons people get. It's just a little over priced, but not by too much for how busy they get. Borgata has the best in town they say especially holding black cards but I've never tried it.
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February 1st, 2014 at 7:37:55 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Borgata has the best in town they say especially holding black cards but I've never tried it.



Borgata's buffet is the best in town, no doubt of it. (Honorable mention: Harrahs.)

The Borgata Black card will get you the buffet for only 10 comp dollars, which is a real bargain, especially when you consider that Borgata's comp dollars are worth only 1:2 in all of the merchandise stores.
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February 1st, 2014 at 7:43:17 AM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Borgata's buffet is the best in town, no doubt of it. (Honorable mention: Harrahs.)

The Borgata Black card will get you the buffet for only 10 comp dollars, which is a real bargain, especially when you consider that Borgata's comp dollars are worth only 1:2 in all of the merchandise stores.



I agree. Sometimes at the Borgata when I dont feel hungry enough to go to the buffet I go to Bread and Butter, their sandwich shop and get a sandwich and a soda. But that cost me $15. instead of $10 for the buffet. I guess I just dont feel like going to the buffet where I would feel compelled to overeat.
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February 5th, 2014 at 8:12:01 AM permalink
Off-duty cop held up at gunpoint on Atlantic City Boardwalk

http://www.nj.com/south/index.ssf/2014/02/off-duty_middleton_cop_held_up.html
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February 5th, 2014 at 8:44:09 AM permalink
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Off-duty cop held up at gunpoint on Atlantic City Boardwalk

http://www.nj.com/south/index.ssf/2014/02/off-duty_middleton_cop_held_up.html



Well, he can cross that off his to do list. At least they didn't sic a dog on him and call ten of their buddies to club him half to death just for sport. Where were all the ambassadors in their yellow jackets and Smoky the Bear hats?
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February 5th, 2014 at 9:05:54 AM permalink
Quote: 7star4now

Off-duty cop held up at gunpoint on Atlantic City Boardwalk

http://www.nj.com/south/index.ssf/2014/02/off-duty_middleton_cop_held_up.html



This needs to be deleted since we don't talk about AC reality on this forum. Oh wait, never mind, that's the other forum when they run it like AC is Fantasyland and nothing bad ever happens. Are you listening UK and the Good Ship R??
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February 5th, 2014 at 11:10:04 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

This needs to be deleted since we don't talk about AC reality on this forum. Oh wait, never mind, that's the other forum when they run it like AC is Fantasyland and nothing bad ever happens. Are you listening UK and the Good Ship R??



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February 5th, 2014 at 11:14:07 AM permalink
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Well, he can cross that off his to do list. At least they didn't sic a dog on him and call ten of their buddies to club him half to death just for sport. Where were all the ambassadors in their yellow jackets and Smoky the Bear hats?


What are the ambassadors? As much time as I spend in AC I still have clue what they do. Are they just like volunteer cops? Or are they just tour guides or PR type people?
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February 5th, 2014 at 11:26:23 AM permalink
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What are the ambassadors? As much time as I spend in AC I still have clue what they do. Are they just like volunteer cops? Or are they just tour guides or PR type people?



"This project maintains a CRDA Ambassador staff of 55 year round plus 2 social workers. There are 5 additional Ambassadors April through September, with 14 additional members from Memorial Day to Labor Day. The hours of deployment will be 6 AM through 10 PM extended to midnight on weekends and special events. CRDA Ambassadors will be assigned zones on the Boardwalk and Pacific Avenue and will be deployed as needed in other parts of the Tourism District. CRDA Ambassadors serve as eyes and ears of public safety and code enforcement as well as ambassadors of good will to visitors."

so where were they?:

Atlantic City Boardwalk Ambassador Sentenced to 6 years in Prison for Selling Heroin to Undercover Police Officer

http://www.gallowaytownshipnews.com/2014/01/atlantic-city-boardwalk-ambassador.html
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February 5th, 2014 at 6:19:49 PM permalink
I gotta say, when I was there over the summer I saw a ton of these people. I bet they are few and far between during the winter months. I feel very safe even late at night during the summer. I don't know that I would feel the same during the winter.
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