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June 1st, 2017 at 10:58:39 AM permalink
Cnn reporting right now masked gunmen police n swat explosions inside resorts world manila
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June 1st, 2017 at 11:24:01 AM permalink
CBS News: Manila resort on lockdown after gunfire reports.
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June 1st, 2017 at 11:41:27 AM permalink
They filed for bankruptcy, drug dealers have been turning up either dead or missing for a long time, payrolls have not been met, some areas are under martial law....
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June 1st, 2017 at 2:06:21 PM permalink
The most amazing things happen here every day!

Through the "very special" mental powers in the WoV forum, Manila just got telepathically transported all the way to the bankrupt territory of Puerto Rico, which is ten-thousand miles away from the Philippines and is part of the United States!

Even though the PI has been going through quite an economic boom and their sovereign gov't debt status is much better than, say, California or Illinois, no, I really didn't expect that!

EDIT: I see some later reports suggesting it was "a botched robbery." If so, a really weird one, because that comes with some details that sound like he was just plain stark raving nuts:
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The national police chief said the gunman apparently barged into a room at the 5th floor of the Maxims hotel connected to the mall and casino, laid on the bed, blanketed himself, doused himself with gasoline then set himself on fire. The bag of gambling chips worth $226,000 was found in a toilet.

Nuts in a way that some disreputable ex-patriot foreigners sometimes get when they are near the end of drinking themselves to death there because they were 'unwelcomed' by everyone back home. And not likely a Filipino...
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Dela Rosa described him as "white, with a mustache" and about 6 feet tall.

...since in the time I've lived there, I don't believe I ever saw a single Filipino who could possibly come close to that description. I am maybe just a skosh and a sliver above average height for an adult American male, and was about a foot taller than the folks in Manila, besides being a lot more pale.
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June 2nd, 2017 at 8:49:39 AM permalink
the government of the philippines is claiming that this was not a terrorist attack but it's very possible that this a public relations ploy. the philippines has and is suffering from a lot of terrorism. love the philippine people but you can't believe anything coming from their government. in this cut and paste a reporter quotes a government source re their unemployment rate:

"Based on the January 2017 Labor Force Survey, the unemployment rate in the country increased to 6.6 percent in January 2017. This is higher than the 5.7 percent recorded in January 2016"

this is total BS. try 70%. that ought to be about right.
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June 2nd, 2017 at 3:06:37 PM permalink
I'd be interested to hear more details about it. It is getting eclipsed in the news by the Paris treaty.
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June 2nd, 2017 at 6:27:12 PM permalink
Your link above:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/manila-resort-on-lockdown-after-gunfire-reports/

Has been updated with a huge amount of detail. The only thing they don't provide yet are names and nationalities.
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June 2nd, 2017 at 11:06:27 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster


this is total BS. try 70%. that ought to be about right.



70 % don't work is your point I assume, not to be confused with unemployment figures.

I have played and dined in the exact area, 2nd floor, where this attack occurred. The 3rd floor is the high limit area, the 1st floor lower limits, mostly Philippine people(I think).

Many of the deceased were women in a bathroom who suffocated so the stories go. Very sad. RIP.

I recall and it is a very large casino, as with most large business's in SEA, you throw people at it. I don't know if the sprinkler system worked. They aren't talking much about it.... I think we can assume it wasn't "terrorism". Many things get labeled as terrorism these days.

God Bless the Deceased and their family's and OO.
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June 3rd, 2017 at 1:22:31 PM permalink
Of actual attack.

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June 4th, 2017 at 5:20:17 PM permalink
So the suicidal wacko has been positively identified as Jessie Carlos, a 42 year-old Filipino, who was formerly an employee of the Department of Finance as a "Tax Specialist" until he was fired for "misconduct" according to multiple news sources from Associated Press to BBC to Reuters to ABC to the Wall Street Journal and Chicago Tribune. And with more complete information, to me this is now sounding an awful lot like when a deranged degenerate gambler fruitcake blew up Harvey's Casino in Reno/Tahoe, partly as a ludicrous hair-brained scheme to try to get even, after gambling away every cent he had and a lot he didn't have.

He has been described as "a high roller" (by Filipino standards) who was apparently over $81,000(USD) in debt, his family describes him as "a gambling addict" and his distraught mom says that in April she and his father asked the Manila casinos to ban him, which apparently they did. After he pushed past a security guard at the entrance, he fired shots at the ceiling of the casino, but not at people, and used gas to set fire to some of the table games, stole a lot of chips, went into a hotel room, assassinated the television (in my opinion an act amounting to a temporary moment of inexplicable sanity) with multiple shots, put the bag of casino chips in the toilet, got in bed and pulled up the covers, soaked it and himself with gas and set it and himself alight. The burning felt on the tables downstairs in the casino spread to the carpet, which was apparently flammable (!) and as the casino filled with smoke some people didn't get out before choking on the fumes.

I was thinking of this while spending the day playing poker in a casino in San Bernardino, California yesterday, since Manila has now had half as many mass casualty attacks as there have been recently in that city about 60-miles east of downtown Los Angeles. Though one of them in that officially bankrupt town/LA-suburb, which was also carried out by an unhinged government employee, actually was a terrorist attack influenced by the berserk civil servant's politically themed obsessions and stated desire to kill the infidels gathered at the Christmas party and suchlike.
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June 4th, 2017 at 10:49:12 PM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead


He has been described as "a high roller" (by Filipino standards) who was apparently over $81,000(USD) in debt, his family describes him as "a gambling addict" and his distraught mom says that in April she and his father asked the Manila casinos to ban him, which apparently they did.

The burning felt on the tables downstairs in the casino spread to the carpet, which was apparently flammable (!) and as the casino filled with smoke some people didn't get out before choking on the fumes.



All of this seems impossible, even in the Philippines....

Running up $81,000.usd(equivalent in piso I assume) in gambling debts? You can be killed for $50.usd there..

Parents and family getting a 40 year old son banned from casinos?....

Flammable carpets in a casino?....

I'm sure I read about a ladies bathroom...I don't want to look again. So sad all of it.

God Bless Them and OO.
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June 4th, 2017 at 11:37:45 PM permalink
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...<SNIP>...

...I'm sure I read about a ladies bathroom...

...<SNIP>...

Yes, no doubt you did. Within the first day after the event CNN, among others, was one specifically quoting the description of those ladies being discovered in the bathroom:

Quote: CNN (on 6/2)

The victims, who did not appear to have been shot, are thought to have died of suffocation, Southern Police District Director Superintendent Tomas Apolinario said Friday. "Most of the victims were women who were found dead inside the bathroom," he added.

Link to Friday version of CNN story

He had a 2 liter soda bottle that was apparently filled with gasoline, and it has been suggested that he also had at least another in his backpack. There was only one gunshot wound, to the panicked lone armed guard inside the complex, who is said to have accidentally shot herself; and after spending plenty of time in-country I'm sure you'll understand why I don't find that last bit too surprising.
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June 5th, 2017 at 5:28:20 AM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

There was only one gunshot wound, to the panicked lone armed guard inside the complex, who is said to have accidentally shot herself; and after spending plenty of time in-country I'm sure you'll understand why I don't find that last bit too surprising.



My understanding/memory was the assailant also shot himself in the mouth in the hotel room. That not doing the trick, he then decided to burn himself to death. Again, only in the Philippines would you believe such stuff. I also specifically recall in Angeles City, in front of each and every bar, there were guards with machine guns. I don't know of course if these guns were loaded. Like you, I find nothing unbelievable there in these regards. Thirty Five seems like a lot in one bathroom, and a strange place to run and hide, but again, we weren't there. Perhaps a bathroom is a good place to hide, but only women in the women's bathroom at the time of such a panic? I just don't know. I'm planning on a trip to Manila soon but Resorts World was my destination for fine dining, at Wolfgang's Steakhouse in the mall and CRU Steakhouse in the Marriott. I also had some luck on the second floor casino, which I don't even know it is back open. RIP and God Bless Everyone. OO.
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June 13th, 2017 at 5:35:18 AM permalink
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I'm planning on a trip to Manila soon but Resorts World was my destination for fine dining, at Wolfgang's Steakhouse in the mall and CRU Steakhouse in the Marriott. I also had some luck on the second floor casino, which I don't even know it is back open. RIP and God Bless Everyone. OO.



The mall is due to reopen on Friday of this week, June 16th.

The casino remains closed out of respect for the deceased.

(I just looked online and got this information from a Manila newspaper link below)

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/06/09/1708308/resorts-world-manila-set-reopen-shopping-section
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June 29th, 2017 at 7:29:01 AM permalink
The casino at Resorts World in Manila has reopened. Either yesterday or today, not sure. Point being this would be a great time to slid in there and take advantage of a very nervous staff. Mistakes in the players advantage bound to be rampant. Security would be on frigging edge saying the very least. Let's get over there and take advantage of them...them being Genting, not the Filipino people. OO.
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