coilman
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EvenBob
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March 16th, 2015 at 2:24:34 PM permalink
"More than 80% of government revenue comes directly from the casinos"

China is so dependent on the money from
Macao, yet they do everything possible to
cut it off. Crackdown on corruption and
scare people away, ban smoking in a country
where almost everybody smokes, make
visa's hard to get. It's almost like they don't
have a clue.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
Frogger
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March 16th, 2015 at 2:45:00 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

"More than 80% of government revenue comes directly from the casinos"

China is so dependent on the money from
Macao, yet they do everything possible to
cut it off. Crackdown on corruption and
scare people away, ban smoking in a country
where almost everybody smokes, make
visa's hard to get. It's almost like they don't
have a clue.



No, the amount that Macao contributes to China's GDP is a piddling. Nothing would happen to China if Macao went belly up and all the casinos closed
andysif
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March 16th, 2015 at 6:23:35 PM permalink
Quote: Frogger

No, the amount that Macao contributes to China's GDP is a piddling. Nothing would happen to China if Macao went belly up and all the casinos closed


Correct. Macao depends on gambling, but China does not depend on Macao.
However, the corrupt officials of the CCP indeed depend on Macao for entertainment and money laundering.
MrV
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March 16th, 2015 at 7:01:57 PM permalink
Wow, the average bet at baccarat in Macao is $250.

How things have changed since millions starved under Mao's Great Leap Forward.
"What, me worry?"
Deck007
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March 16th, 2015 at 7:21:55 PM permalink
You aren't seeing anything yet.
You have to watch out for the 6 $3b projects under construction.
2 will be completed this year. The others we shall see.
It may turn out to be Vegas again during the recession in 2008.
Unfinished construction left rotting and companies like Byod and others going bust.
NokTang
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March 17th, 2015 at 7:43:33 PM permalink
Quote: Deck007

You aren't seeing anything yet.
You have to watch out for the 6 $3b projects under construction.
2 will be completed this year. The others we shall see.
It may turn out to be Vegas again during the recession in 2008.
Unfinished construction left rotting and companies like Byod and others going bust.



Sands Las Vegas and Wynn both have projects under construction in Macao. They must know something. I doubt either is going bust.
MrV
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March 17th, 2015 at 7:45:54 PM permalink
Timing is everything.

Think: "City Center."
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Deck007
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March 24th, 2015 at 9:54:45 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

Sands Las Vegas and Wynn both have projects under construction in Macao. They must know something. I doubt either is going bust.



The present building programs started a couple of years back. They couldn't build fast enough. Nobody saw what Xi was about to unleash.

Oh yes, Sands nearly when bust in the 2007 downturn if he had not a few $B of his own money.
DMSCR
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April 7th, 2015 at 1:18:04 PM permalink
Quote: coilman

http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/16/news/economy/macau-gambling-gdp-revenue/index.html



Typical CNN bad reporting. That $250 average bet is NOT in USD but in HKD. That comes out to around $30 USD. Not everything is revolved around the USD as it is going to lose its world reserve currency one day in the future.

As usual EvenBob got it wrong once again. China as a whole does not depend on the revenue of Macau. The local government does. Oh dear. Maybe you were the one who wrote that crappy CNN article.
Paradigm
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April 7th, 2015 at 2:32:12 PM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

Not everything is revolved around the USD as it is going to lose its world reserve currency one day in the future.


Really, you think so? Pick a date on which you would be willing to take either the over or under.
DMSCR
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April 8th, 2015 at 4:57:55 AM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

Really, you think so? Pick a date on which you would be willing to take either the over or under.



Typical Obama supporter in denial. LOL.
Paradigm
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April 8th, 2015 at 11:15:54 AM permalink
Not sure where the Obama comment comes from (I voted for Romney in 2012).......back to the original question, which date did you select for the over/under proposition on a change away from the USD as a reserve currency?
DMSCR
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April 8th, 2015 at 12:25:15 PM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

Not sure where the Obama comment comes from (I voted for Romney in 2012).......back to the original question, which date did you select for the over/under proposition on a change away from the USD as a reserve currency?



Oh you're one of those.

2105. But don't think we will exist as a species long enough since we are all armed to the teeth. Now the question is who and what will be the replacement. I say Soylent Green.
Paradigm
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April 8th, 2015 at 1:18:33 PM permalink
2105......well so glad you posted that valuable change in the "reserve currency" comment that you now won't support with any sense of realism.

The Forum waits with baited breath for your next insight 90 years in the future......what a joke!
DMSCR
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April 8th, 2015 at 1:30:30 PM permalink
Oh don't forget within the next few years there are going to be Saturdays where it is going to rain. For me or anyone to know the exact date of something going to happen is absolutely silly. The question being asked is a joke in itself to begin with. So a proper response is a joke answer. Just responding in kind. LOL. You know all that USD you socked away until 70 1/2 is worthless anyways. Might as well spend it on Seiko watches from EvenBob on eBay.

Or better yet head over to Macau and play some bac. ROFL. Say hi to Egalite/jauno when you run into that booger when he is at his usual tilt complaining about paying $2 for a cup of coffee.
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