Deuces Wild Math Question

I play a lot of NSU deuces wild. Often times there will be promotions where natural 4 of a kinds pay a bonus. I'd like to know how many credits the bonus would need to be to change the play of holding two pair to only holding a pair when dealt two pair. Assume 5 coin bet. I think I need to come up with a weighted payback based on how many draws would result in natural quads vs. wild quads to come up with a value to enter into the Wizards strategy calculator. At some point I need to sit down and try to work this out but I thought it might be trivial for some on this board.

Quote: ROYALPIRATE

I play a lot of NSU deuces wild. Often times there will be promotions where natural 4 of a kinds pay a bonus. I'd like to know how many credits the bonus would need to be to change the play of holding two pair to only holding a pair when dealt two pair. Assume 5 coin bet. I think I need to come up with a weighted payback based on how many draws would result in natural quads vs. wild quads to come up with a value to enter into the Wizards strategy calculator. At some point I need to sit down and try to work this out but I thought it might be trivial for some on this board.

I believe Wolf Video Poker used to have an option to solve this.

Quote: DRich

I believe Wolf Video Poker used to have an option to solve this.

Sadly, I blew my hard drive with Wolf on it the week after Christmas, 2018. I was so mad at myself.

Quote: ROYALPIRATE

I play a lot of NSU deuces wild. Often times there will be promotions where natural 4 of a kinds pay a bonus. I'd like to know how many credits the bonus would need to be to change the play of holding two pair to only holding a pair when dealt two pair. Assume 5 coin bet. I think I need to come up with a weighted payback based on how many draws would result in natural quads vs. wild quads to come up with a value to enter into the Wizards strategy calculator. At some point I need to sit down and try to work this out but I thought it might be trivial for some on this board.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it always correct to throw away the 2nd pair in NSUD?

Quote: FCBLComish

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it always correct to throw away the 2nd pair in NSUD?

That's kind of the issue today at the LVA QOD:

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Quote: FCBLComish

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it always correct to throw away the 2nd pair in NSUD?

Depends what the full house pays. I believe you keep two pair if the FH pays 4-1, otherwise discard one pair.

Hold 2pair in NSUD.

@OP — I’m not sure. I’ll see if I can figure it out. Hodl on, the goat is on it. 🐐

I guess I always played FPDW and did not realize there was that dramatic a difference. Good thing I don't play NSUD.