Imaginaryhero
Imaginaryhero
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October 21st, 2015 at 4:08:40 AM permalink
Hi wizard ...

Is there anything I can do to increase my chance of winning the 10 spot in keno? Does following any of those props on your site eg. Choosing 4 in a row etc make it easier to win in the long run? Or is it just a matter of increasing the number of games you play for a set of numbers.

Also is there any way to calculate how long you would have to wait for a certain set of 10 numbers to eventually come out assuming you were in every game played continuously until it came out.. Would it take days weeks or years ? Is it even possible to make a rough educated guess? Many thanks love the site.

P.s sometimes I take the 40spot here in Australia and wondering what the odds are for getting 19/20 from the 80 numbers ... Can't find the odds anywhere it pays 25k.
AxelWolf
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October 21st, 2015 at 4:45:26 AM permalink
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Hi wizard ...

Is there anything I can do to increase my chance of winning the 10 spot in keno? Does following any of those props on your site eg. Choosing 4 in a row etc make it easier to win in the long run?

No absolutely not. Playing more games faster will speed up the process, but no matter what you do it takes 8,911,711.18 games to hit it.

There are some people that believe that there are certain numbers and patterns that come up. I know one fairly credible person who seriously believes this. He claims he has inside information(I know he knows people in the industry) that gives him a SMALL advantage on video keno playing 7 spots on certain machines with certain pays. Obviously I though he was way off base on this, but he's not a kook. To my surprise he showed me some strange programming errors on older machines. You may ask why he doesn't play Video keno. He does(It's been a few years since I talked to him) fairly often for years, he keeps records and as far as his records go, he's up money.

I realize when playing 7 spots, if you get lucky and run good hitting 7/7 you would have a good chance at being ahead. As often as he plays assuming everything is true and he really is ahead it's hard to believe he could fade a 9% hold under normal circumstances

According to him there's still risk and it's not a glaring advantage.

I'm still very skeptical, but I wouldn't 100% discount the possibility.
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Mission146
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October 21st, 2015 at 5:33:41 AM permalink
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P.s sometimes I take the 40spot here in Australia and wondering what the odds are for getting 19/20 from the 80 numbers ... Can't find the odds anywhere it pays 25k.



NcR(20,19)*NcR(20,1)/NcR(40,20) =0.0000000029017778

1/0.0000000029017778 = 1 in 344,616,325 (Rounded)

Wait, I'm confused, from the eighty numbers and you're playing twenty numbers? Is it or is it not a forty spot?

Either way, the above is 19/20 on a 40 number card. 19/20 on an 80 number card is far less likely, give me a second...

NcR(20,19)*NcR(60,1)/NcR(80,20) =
0.0000000000000003

About 1 in 3,333,333,333,333,333
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Imaginaryhero
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October 23rd, 2015 at 3:08:45 AM permalink
Great thanks for the replies. Yes I normally take a 40 spot which is choosing 40 numbers from the 80 (half the numbers) so basically every number drawn is 1 in 2 of getting it correct. Not sure if that maths is correct tho that sounds impossible odds?
sabre
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October 23rd, 2015 at 9:06:16 AM permalink
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Great thanks for the replies. Yes I normally take a 40 spot which is choosing 40 numbers from the 80 (half the numbers) so basically every number drawn is 1 in 2 of getting it correct. Not sure if that maths is correct tho that sounds impossible odds?



What maths? There are no maths in your post.
vegas
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October 23rd, 2015 at 1:04:58 PM permalink
I would hazard to guess you will never hit 19 of 20 numbers in your lifetime. Same with 10 of 10. Sure it is possible but highly unlikely. Why do you think they offer such big odds.
Hitting a 5, 6 7 or 8 spot is what most serious keno people play.

Mickey Crimm says he makes a living playing mainly keno ( and some advantage VP and the odd slot). Mickey plays mostly progressives though and only plays when he has an advantage. He is a smart player who understands the odds as good as anyone.

Good luck to you Imaginaryhero. In keno you will need all the luck you can get.
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