Keeneone
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February 4th, 2021 at 9:11:11 AM permalink
New hotel development for Las Vegas. Construction planned to start this summer.

-The first of its kind non-gaming, non-smoking, ultra luxury resort, developed by Lorenzo Doumani痴 Majestic Resorts and designed by renowned architect Paul Steelman, will feature a branded 720 suite five star hotel, six extraordinary freestanding restaurants, 270,000 square feet of Corporate Sky Suites, and an all encompassing medical wellness spa and fitness facility that will be amongst the finest of its kind anywhere in the world.

https://majesticlasvegas.com/

https://www.travelandleisure.com/hotels-resorts/majestic-las-vegas-resort-no-gambling-smoking
ThatDonGuy
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February 4th, 2021 at 9:24:58 AM permalink
Quote: Keeneone

The first of its kind non-gaming, non-smoking, ultra luxury resort


Non-gaming? Then why bother?
DJTeddyBear
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February 4th, 2021 at 12:57:05 PM permalink
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Non-gaming? Then why bother?

Because they are targeting non-gamblers who like high-end stuff. Kinda like the Wynn, right next door. But without the gambling.


They have a very slick website.

I'll give them this: The location, shoe-horned in the space between the convention center expansion and the Wynn golf course, would be attractive to executive types that don't gamble but want to be close to those amenities.

However, some of the very close local neighborhood is kinda sketchy.

Yeah, I'll file this under, "I'll believe it when I see it."

Of course, I kinda felt the same way about Lucky Dragon.
Last edited by: DJTeddyBear on Feb 4, 2021
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February 4th, 2021 at 1:10:08 PM permalink
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Yeah, I'll file this under, "I'll believe it when I see it."

Of course, I kinda felt the same way about Lucky Dragon.



So then the question becomes this:
Did you see the lucky dragon
before it bit the dust in months?
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February 4th, 2021 at 6:39:45 PM permalink
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So then the question becomes this:
Did you see the lucky dragon
before it bit the dust in months?

LOL. Yep. And I have my $5 souvenir chip to prove it. 😁
Actually, I think I have two. 🤪
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February 4th, 2021 at 6:46:27 PM permalink
Isn稚 it hard to compete with the artificially lower prices that high end casino hotels can charge due to the expected gambling revenue they make?

I値l bet against it succeeding.
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February 4th, 2021 at 7:02:43 PM permalink
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Isn稚 it hard to compete with the artificially lower prices that high end casino hotels can charge due to the expected gambling revenue they make?

I値l bet against it succeeding.



Maybe if someone big backs it?
Marriott, Hilton, IHG?
Four seasons and vdara thrive
But I guess they have partners there
Does M life prop them up a lot?
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February 4th, 2021 at 7:39:06 PM permalink
Interesting. Just to be clear, the site is on convention center drive, where the Clarion was imploded a few years back. For those of you from old Las Vegas days that was the Debbie Reynolds owned casino, whatever it was called way back then. I think that little Italian restaurant that was a mob hangout back in the day is right next door.

So that lot is not very big. And the entire north side of convention center drive now consists of the new convention center expansion. So you wouldn't think that a particularly good fit. Convention center attendees and show people aren't looking to stay at the highest end hotel, right across the street.

So 2 blocks out to the strip, I would say technically 1 block, but at that particular point of the strip, not much there on the east side. Wynn up the street a bit. Directly across on the west side will be the new Resorts World. I guess that fits in a bit with long awaited plans to improve that north end, but I still say, the north end revitalization doesn't REALLY happen until until "big blue" comes down and maybe something happens with Circus Circus. I have a hard time believing the Treasure Island guy bought Circus Circus to keep it as is. LOL.

But I guess one step at a time. Hope it works out as planned. Almost anything is better than what that area has been.
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February 4th, 2021 at 7:53:41 PM permalink
Oh man! Clarion? That's where this is at?
I loved that place. Big clean rooms near the strip.
Quiet, too. And choice hotel rewards made it free
Before I built up points to stay elsewhere.
Now it's Red Rock or GVR for me.
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February 4th, 2021 at 8:17:00 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Oh man! Clarion? That's where this is at?
I loved that place. Big clean rooms near the strip.
Quiet, too. And choice hotel rewards made it free
Before I built up points to stay elsewhere.
Now it's Red Rock or GVR for me.



I stayed there 3 nights, I am going to say summer of 2008 before I moved to Vegas the following year. At that time I was in my mid 20's and building my BR, and my Vegas trips consisted of staying the cheapest places I could find, usually associated with some sort of free night via one of the coupon books. I think this one was ACG stay 2 nights get 3rd free. The rate was $22 range, effectively making it $15 a night. That was my budget at the time.

You say clean rooms and quiet. I have no recollection of the rooms which means they were at least satisfactory for my $15 a night investment. But I will tell you what wasn't quiet, was the elevators. Two of the loudest, slowest elevators I have ever been on in my life. You felt like they could konk out at any point. But ya know...like I said $15 a night. LOL.
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February 5th, 2021 at 2:01:02 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Interesting. Just to be clear, the site is on convention center drive, where the Clarion was imploded a few years back. For those of you from old Las Vegas days that was the Debbie Reynolds owned casino, whatever it was called way back then. I think that little Italian restaurant that was a mob hangout back in the day is right next door.



I believe Debbie Reynplds was the Paddlewheel Casino in 1990 when I moved here.
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February 5th, 2021 at 8:17:23 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

... So that lot is not very big...

Not big is putting it mildly. And kinda close to the neighbors.

This image is from their website. In the inset, you can see that next to the Majestic (in red), is some of the less-desirable neighborhood I was talking about.


Of course, it looks worse on a satellite view...
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February 6th, 2021 at 8:11:45 AM permalink
So if it's an ultra-high-end property with everything except the gambling, why? If you want a high-end experience, and you decide that it's Las Vegas for you, why wouldn't you stay at the Wynn and just look the other way anytime that you have to walk by the casino? Whether its' on-site or not, what can such a facility possibly add to any of the non-gambling attractions in Las Vegas that isn't already there?

Would you go to Hawaii because you don't like the beach? To Vail because you don't want to ski?

I'm reminded of the plot of "The Producers." Is someone soliciting backers for this project? What happens if it doesn't get off the ground, or if does, only to crash and burn at the end of the runway?
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February 6th, 2021 at 10:55:26 AM permalink
I didn't realize the property had that narrow strip that extends to Desert Inn Road. Doesn't change much, it is still pretty small for what they are proposing, even "shoe-horning" into that extra narrow space. I guess it does give access from another road, for what that is worth.
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