billryan
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September 25th, 2019 at 5:40:29 PM permalink
South Point will give you a pack if you earn 1000 points, though few people take advantage of it.
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September 25th, 2019 at 6:07:02 PM permalink
Smoking should be banned from all casinos.

About the only negative factor I have to contend with is second hand smoke.
I tell you itís wonderful to be here, man. I donít give a damn who wins or loses. Itís just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 25th, 2019 at 7:24:34 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Smoking should be banned from all casinos.

About the only negative factor I have to contend with is second hand smoke.



I can't believe this MDawg but I agree with you 100%!

I guess there is a first for everything :P
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September 25th, 2019 at 8:09:56 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg



About the only negative factor I have to contend with is second hand smoke.



Certainly not the house edge
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September 26th, 2019 at 2:14:20 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Smoking should be banned from all casinos. Only negative factor is second hand smoke.

We already have threads discussing gambling and correlations with smoking, left handedness and other traits. I won't add to them here, but often spouses smoke even if gamblers do not.
I find smoke free casinos and smoke free hotels refreshing. Owners find them profitable.
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September 26th, 2019 at 3:17:27 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I find smoke free casinos and smoke free hotels refreshing. Owners find them profitable.

The thing about the doom & gloom predicted by opponents of regulation is that it never happens. Safety features for cars were supposedly going to make them really expensive. Ditto for improved fuel economy. Same deal for energy standards for refrigerators. And when Austin passed a smoking ban for bars, that was supposedly gonna be the end of live music here. (If you think there's a correlation between gamblers and smokers, have a gander at the bar demographic before the ban.)

But none of that happened. As fuel economy improved, cars got *cheaper*. Same deal for fridges. And the bar business in Austin is booming after the ban. Here's a quote from just one bar owner: "Iím very pleasantly surprised that the turnout thatís happened since then....[W]e deterred people from coming in because of the smoke. But because of the ban, itís definitely increased our sales. I think that people who wouldnít have come in are now coming in because itís not smokey Ö Iíve been pleasantly surprised with the outcome of the smoking ban. Itís helped my businesses for sure." The nonsmoking nonprofit lists hundreds of gaming venues in the U.S. that are nonsmoking. There's enough patronage to keep them going.

So, when naysayers claim that consumer costs will explode or business will dry up because of increased regulation, all I have to say is, their track record on such predictions is pretty poor.
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September 26th, 2019 at 2:50:18 PM permalink
I was very apprehensive when NYC banned smoking in bars. I was expecting a tremendous hit but after a slight loss of business, it actually picked up and eventually improved. I was surprised how many new people came out because of the no smoking.
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September 28th, 2019 at 6:43:14 PM permalink
Thank you SO much for a Great answer to my question! I appreciate all the information. I did npt know that the casino was paying full price potentially for the ciggerettes. Once you explained the formula of my play I understood it from the casino view, I didn't realize that $1,000 of play was very much-I was only looking at it from my view-thank you that was very helpful. I was honestly feeling that they were denying me solely on the fact of knowing I'd continue to come and play regardless of approving the comp. Thank you!
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September 28th, 2019 at 6:54:34 PM permalink
Yes you are correct-it is definitely cheaper to buy ciggerettes elsewhere. The Cannery ciggerette machines currently charge $10. I didn't know about soft and hard comps-thank you for that information! I get more free food than my husband and I could possibly eat in a month-so I never ask for that kind of comp. I do have a host that has comped rooms for the weekend in the past-even when they were supposidly sold out. Which I found out in the past that the casino always sets aside some rooms even on sold out nights so they can comp players. So I have been lucky in that aspect. That's why I had started asking for cigarettes-because I can't think of another comp to ask for and the staff is always offering to comp me for food and rooms.
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September 28th, 2019 at 7:21:36 PM permalink
Sooooooo I had talked to an employee at Cannery when I was there last night-one of the managers I have a good repore with and asked them if they understood and could explain the ciggerette comps (I did get the feeling this was inside information so I wont mention any names) here is what I was told:
They base the comp off of several factors there.
For one-they do track your wins and losses. For example-if you have played say $100 and out of that you only lost $20--they do not consider the fact you put in $100-they only see it as $20 lose, and will not consider any comp until the patron is at $100 lose or more. Two-they do take into account the time you have played, however, the amount of time by itself does not warrant the comp in any way. Three-they do take into account what time of day, whether the casino is busy, and what day during the week into consideration when approving or denying the comp-which I thought was interesting. And lastly-this one I found the most interesting (and the most aggravating!)-they said since they have "officially" switched over to Boyds rules the casino now keeps track (they make a note of it on your players card file) of when you ask for a comp and the comp that was requested-and here's the kicker with that--they will deny your comp request based on how often you request that comp, regardless if it was approved or not! So the manager made a suggestion that I have decided I'm going to test. They said to keep playing the same way I am and have been, but to not ask for a comp for 3 weeks and they guarantee as long as everything stays the same I will be approved for a ciggerette comp just because I simply did not request one for 3 weeks. I'll post when the 3 weeks are up and let you know if they're theory was correct

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