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Super Bowl Champion Reveals How Cop Threatened to Blow His ‘F***ing’ Head Off
Seattle Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett was walking back to his hotel room after watching the Mayweather-McGregor boxing match. Then, gun shots sent people in the area running away from the apparent shooting–Bennett included. Las Vegas police officers pointed their guns at him and ordered him to get on the ground. As he lay on the ground, complying with commands to not move, the officer placed his gun near Bennett's head and said if he moved the officer would “blow your f**king head off.”
Remarkably, it just gets worse from there. A second officer came over and forcefully jammed his knee into Bennett's back making it difficult to breathe. [Shucks, why didn't he just say, "I can't breathe," because that always works, right?] They then clinched the handcuffs on his wrists so tight that his fingers went numb.” They stashed him away in the back of a nearby police car until realizing they had just arrested an NFL player.
The two-time Pro Bowl superstar recounts more of his exciting visit to Las Vegas in an open letter posted to his Twitter followers. The story (above) has a link to that letter.
Quote: FleaStiffWalking While Black, Running While Black, oops a running back... oh well, tomorrow's headline will be about some darn tropical storm so whats the big deal?
Agreed. Tomorrow's headline will feature the storm. But, this could still be a big deal.
- Has rough treatment by Vegas police caused more than incidental injury? Bennett has a job to do, and this is not a great time to go on sick leave.
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If Bennett quickly followed officers' instructions, they should have recognized that immediately and backed off on the bullying. Yes, I know, law enforcement officers are trained always to establish themselves as the "Big Dog" in any confrontation, but the degree to which they assert control should be balanced with the subject's apparent willingness to cooperate. Seems this may not have happened here.
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The officer's apparent willingness to shoot an unarmed man lying on the ground cannot be seen by a minority or a person of color as some idle threat. If Bennett had been killed, who knows whether a pistol might suddenly appear in Bennett's dead hand, with the officer shouting, "He went for a gun!!!!!" And, unless some other passerby was filming what happened, that would probably be the unfortunate end to the story.
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At some point, the Vegas police apparently realized who they had taken into custody, and let him go. Bennett has the resources to seek appropriate "adjustment" from the police for their actions in this individual incident. The way the police immediately acted with unnecessary force may occur often to "folks like him" in Vegas. Except that those folks don't have the resources to allow them appropriate access to judicial redress. For this reason, it is important that Bennett enforce his constitutional rights. Every time police behave this way, they need to understand the suspect may be an innocent Michael Bennett, or someone with similar resources or notability.
- Bennett called attention to the fact that he had rights, something apparently ignored by the police. Because our society generally assumes officers sworn to uphold the law generally tell the truth, it is very important that any citizen treated in a manner such as Bennett reports go to the mat with the police (in the proper judicial forum) so all can review whether the officers are to praise or to blame. Society gives officers a loooong leash, but that leash is supposed to come with appropriate limits, well-known to all.
As I see it, that's the "big deal." Thanx for asking.
-They take down and handcuff a celebrity on camera 11 days ago and no one else in LVMPD knows about it until today. Only way that happens is if someone was trying to cover something up.
-The officer who took him down turned off his body camera.
-They claim he was acting suspicious by running away from an area with a suspected gunshots alongside hundreds of other people who were also running away
-No one has denied any of Michael Bennett's claims
The police may not have done anything wrong when they handcuffed him, but everything else around this situation is very clearly wrong.
Quote: RSI'm not saying it was right for that to happen, because it's not.....but why does race always get brought up in this stuff? It's stupid. The letter MB wrote (I'm assuming it was him) mentions Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. :shake my head emoji:
Michael Bennett was put in a similar position as Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. He was taken down and threatened with deadly force. USDOJ had to step in and change LVMPD use of force practices a few years ago because it was so bad. To their credit, things have changed significantly. For whatever reason, these cops didn't want to follow any of that. When police choose not to do what's right, they do target minorities disproportionately.
So after the commotion the driver got back on and made some smart ----- remark and the whole bus got up laughing and cheering while I was in shock and upset with myself for not doing anything. I felt that all of us should of stood up for these two and just let them on the bus. No reason for the cops to even get involved. I was pretty sick that all the fellow passengers were on the side of the driver and the police.
When I got home a few months later from my nervous break down or mid life crisis or whatever it was (Personally I think it was some side effect from not eating Special Brownies and Banana Bread constantly for a few years anymore) ... I bought more guns and ammo.
What is my point of all this rant or story? I guess it is that I wouldn't of heard about this police problem if I hadn't read it on this forum so I do not think it will hurt Vegas one bit and I don't think anyone cares. I am guessing that most people would get up and cheer for the police just like on that bus. We as a people gave the Police and Government all the control they have now and they are just going to keep getting stronger.
Quote: monet0412So after the commotion the driver got back on and made some smart ----- remark and the whole bus got up laughing and cheering while I was in shock and upset with myself for not doing anything.
Of course, if you have a recording device like a phone, all you really need to do is record it, Sure you could get into a confrontation with police, but it is probably the best choice for all concerned if you have the opportunity than any other choice.
Quote: TomGMichael Bennett was put in a similar position as Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. He was taken down and threatened with deadly force. USDOJ had to step in and change LVMPD use of force practices a few years ago because it was so bad. To their credit, things have changed significantly. For whatever reason, these cops didn't want to follow any of that. When police choose not to do what's right, they do target minorities disproportionately.
From what I've read so far about "the Michael Bennett" case is it's basically the exact opposite of what happened with Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. Sounds like Bennett was minding his own business and running away from the Cromwell as were many other people. Don't think he tried shooting/attacking anyone (ie: Brown) or beating the livin' sh** out of someone (ie: Martin).
Tough to tell what happened or what they saw based on the body cam video (below, start at 5m 0s), but it looks like Bennett may have been running and jumped over the railing (you can't actually see Bennett in the video until after he's taken down....at least I didn't). Mind you, no one else around there is running away (like you can see earlier in the video inside Cromwell). What would you do if there are 20 people standing around and 1 person running through them then over a railing? Surely it's not illegal to run (I don't think?), but it seems mighty suspicious.
Way too soon to place judgment.
I agree with the extra added names, but in the same token how on earth is race NOT related to this? I'm a betting man... I'd be willing to bet that there was a white male and/or a white female that was 'somewhat near' him when they all started running away from the gunshot (said in the article him and others were fleeing). Why do you think they stopped him? Why do you think they ASSumed he did something wrong and the white girl running in front of him did not? The assumption that he is more guilty other than the white girl in front of him is based solely on the color of his skin and racial stereotypes. That's racism, and it's alive and well in the US today.Quote: RSI'm not saying it was right for that to happen, because it's not.....but why does race always get brought up in this stuff? It's stupid. The letter MB wrote (I'm assuming it was him) mentions Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. :shake my head emoji:
I love how cop stories like this are always "well these are just the few bad apples!" BS... I think there are only a "few good apples" in the whole mix. I'm a WHITE MALE and in my years of being alive in the US I'd give it about a 90% ratio of any cops I've dealt with being complete aholes and power hungry douches. I can't even imagine what black people must go through on a daily basis with the cops.
Quote: ahiromuBennett is the kind of person to be a jackass to police in a live fire situation (the fact that this wasn't true is entirely another matter), not comply with orders, then lie about it to fit his narrative.
Really?
Upon what facts / evidence do you base this damning conclusion?
When my son was a teenager (his mom is black and i am white so he is mixed and identifies black) i began to see firsthand police discrimination
Almost 49 years old and i have been stopped by police maybe 2 times. My son half my age over 20. My daughter also mixed has had multiple police stops for no particular reason
One time i was returning home to find my son in front of my apartment building up against the wall being frisked. When i informed the police he was waiting for me to let him into my apartment they said they had a report of someone suspiciously hanging around the apartment building
Another time i was on a payphone in front of a restaurant in broad daylight. My son was standing near the doorway waiting for me to get off so we could enter. A policeman passing by stopped to ask what he was doing there. When i said he was with me the officer suddenly nodded and said okay and continued on his way.
Finally when i was 19 i evaded paying my fare on the subway. The officers picked me up on the platform itself and led me to a holding area. I was the only white person in custody. After a few minutes one officer says to the other they gave me permission to use the payphone inside the station and i was released
I had heard a similar account on sports radio yesterday -- that he was ordered to stop and continued to run, prompting the takedown. I have since tried to find confirmation this account on the internet (though not very thoroughly) and have come up empty. So, either it was Fake News, or it has been already "sanitized for my protection."Quote: MrVReally?
Upon what facts / evidence do you base this damning conclusion?
Its ALWAYS the blacks throwing in the race bull$h!t. And don't tell me it isn't because I see it every single day in Detroit.
Quote: IbeatyouracesHave any of you watched the show "Cops"? Numerous times after chases and such do you see police yell at people to "don't move or I'll shoot!" This isn't news here but a common occurrence.
Its ALWAYS the blacks throwing in the race bull$h!t. And don't tell me it isn't because I see it every single day in Detroit.
Its always the blacks because they are the ones being targeted
Quote: darkozIts always the blacks because they are the ones being targeted
Look at crime statistics and you'll know why.
Unfortunately in this day and age, you're guilty until you prove otherwise.
Quote: MrVReally?
Upon what facts / evidence do you base this damning conclusion?
I don't need to defend my skepticism when all you have is his word, or are there secondary accounts of people that aren't his personal/direct acquaintances? I hate the guy, he's a pain in the ass off the field for more than just political reasons. He's a whiner, a complainer, and I wouldn't put it past him.
The police have come out and said that Bennett (an extremely imposing man whether he was black or white) started running the moment the police saw him. Remember, the police believed there to be a potentially active shooter. This was while they were clearing the casino. From the POV of the police, this is at worst a misunderstanding. He was detained for less than ten minutes.
Quote: monet0412I guess it is that I wouldn't of heard about this police problem if I hadn't read it on this forum so I do not think it will hurt Vegas one bit and I don't think anyone cares.
CNN had a whole segment on the story this morning, but I agree it's not going to hurt vegas unless tourist shakedowns became some kind of regular thing.
Quote: RSI'm not saying it was right for that to happen, because it's not.....but why does race always get brought up in this stuff? It's stupid. The letter MB wrote (I'm assuming it was him) mentions Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. :shake my head emoji:
I wish people wouldn't bring up Michael Brown when making a statement against police brutality. The guy robbed a convenience store before running into the cop who he assaulted. I absolutely give the cop the benefit of the doubt in that situation. There's PLENTY of more egregious cases of police brutality to reference.
That said, the race issue is unavoidable. Like DarkOz said, black people are targeted more often by police. I've never been pulled over in my life, but I have black friends who I've never known to invoke the race card for anything say that's it's almost a weekly occurrence for them, and for no apparent reason. That's not to say all these cops waking up and saying "Gon get me a black boy today!", but the bias is definitely there. Part of solution needs to come from within the black community, since the amount of crime committed by black males is disproportionately high, but that is still not an excuse for the criminal justice system to hold someone's race against them.
Quote: ahiromuFrom the POV of the police, this is at worst a misunderstanding.
Except for the part about having a gun to his head and being threatened with having his head blown off. There is no misunderstanding that one.
Quote: MrVReally?
Upon what facts / evidence do you base this damning conclusion?
The trend on this fourm is people can post whatever nonsense they want and when questioned they say it is up to the person who questions the statement to prove it.
Quote: MoscaExcept for the part about having a gun to his head and being threatened with having his head blown off. There is no misunderstanding that one.
For an individual acting suspiciously at an active shooter site? Specifically, an individual that could most likely overpower a policeman. Still fits under misunderstanding in my book. That said, we still don't know exactly what happened, I wonder when camera footage will pop up.
Bennett has gotten kicked out of camp for fighting on multiple occasions. He's a guy with a history of a bad attitude, excuse me for not immediately taking him at his word when it involves a story that reinforces a narrative he's been pushing.
Quote: RomesI agree with the extra added names, but in the same token how on earth is race NOT related to this? I'm a betting man... I'd be willing to bet that there was a white male and/or a white female that was 'somewhat near' him when they all started running away from the gunshot (said in the article him and others were fleeing). Why do you think they stopped him? Why do you think they ASSumed he did something wrong and the white girl running in front of him did not? The assumption that he is more guilty other than the white girl in front of him is based solely on the color of his skin and racial stereotypes. That's racism, and it's alive and well in the US today.
I love how cop stories like this are always "well these are just the few bad apples!" BS... I think there are only a "few good apples" in the whole mix. I'm a WHITE MALE and in my years of being alive in the US I'd give it about a 90% ratio of any cops I've dealt with being complete aholes and power hungry douches. I can't even imagine what black people must go through on a daily basis with the cops.
Watch the video I posted (at least I think I posted it? Look on YouTube for "Michael Bennett Las Vegas body cam" or something). When the cops went outside, NO ONE WAS RUNNING. People were just walking and standing around.
You also see the cop pointing off into the distance and going after that person (can't see whom specifically in video). Then they end up on the other side of the railing and it drops down to street level. Most likely scenario with what's given is Bennett was running through the crowd and jumped over the railing. Least likely scenario is the cop saw Bennet on the other side of the railing just standing there, pointing him out, then running after him....since he wouldn't have been able to see him down there and iI doubt they'd have tackled Bennett had he just been standing there.
Quote: monet0412I'm not on the side of the police. I stay away from them and they don't bother me. I don't get into politics too much. I was on a Greyhound Bus a year or so ago and seen the Police throw off a black man and a white woman who were not together. They both got on the Bus late at night and it was pretty cold outside but it was against the drivers rules so he called the police and had them dealt with. The black guy just left the bus and had that seen this before look on his face and caused no trouble. The white lady refused to leave the bus and had a meltdown. The policeman who threw her off was older and big. He ended up beating her slightly and kneed her in the back while some younger white female cop who was scrawny handcuffed her. I wanted to rise up but I stayed quiet as a church mouse like the rest of the passengers.
So after the commotion the driver got back on and made some smart ----- remark and the whole bus got up laughing and cheering while I was in shock and upset with myself for not doing anything. I felt that all of us should of stood up for these two and just let them on the bus. No reason for the cops to even get involved. I was pretty sick that all the fellow passengers were on the side of the driver and the police.
When I got home a few months later from my nervous break down or mid life crisis or whatever it was (Personally I think it was some side effect from not eating Special Brownies and Banana Bread constantly for a few years anymore) ... I bought more guns and ammo.
What is my point of all this rant or story? I guess it is that I wouldn't of heard about this police problem if I hadn't read it on this forum so I do not think it will hurt Vegas one bit and I don't think anyone cares. I am guessing that most people would get up and cheer for the police just like on that bus. We as a people gave the Police and Government all the control they have now and they are just going to keep getting stronger.
On the mark, as often. One of the biggest factors in our becoming a police state is most people are on board with it.
I had a similar experience flying into Vegas. This older woman who was more or less a Hillbilly (she asked me why the mountains looked so small) lit up a cig for about 5 seconds. She was sitting behind me but I didn't notice.
This nasty machinery clicked on and the stewardess came over and told her she might be arrested. It would be up to the pilot, she said, which is convenient because the pilot would never have to look her in the eye. Everyone was just following orders.
The passengers overwhelmingly were on the side of law and order. A poor old lady flying to what might be the first big vacation of her life should be tossed in jail for a few seconds of stupidity/ignorance that harmed nobody.
A woman (black) hollered from several rows back, "that lady BETTER be going to jail!"
It's all over. That's just how Americans are now.
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I'm pretty skeptical of Bennett in this case. Maybe it happened as he said. But people of all viewpoints have a way of cooking up stories that verify their existing beliefs.
Reminds me of a guy on another board who was talking about transgender bathroom stuff. Supposedly, his wife had been attacked at random by a tranny in a bathroom stall and, hearing her screams, he heroically bursted in and beat the attacker up, then the police showed up and let him go, praising his courage. It never made the news though because, um, well, you know.
That was a more outlandish case, but people do this all the time.
so, my point is can you imagine how much police misconduct was out there before the explosion of video technology. in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s and earlier.
in May, chicago opened a building it calls the "Torture Justice Center" in an attempt to provide mental health and case management to victims of police toruture
on a personal note, (i'm white) i was a wiseass substance abuser in my 20s and i was needlessly manhandled by the washington dc police for no good reason in the 70s. all i did was mouth off. i was put in a choke hold and lost consciousness for a few seconds. then handcuffs were put on me so tight that it caused scarring on my wrists.
maybe 20 years ago a white u. of maryland student was beaten really badly by prince georges county police and there was a video of it. all he was doing was dancing and celebrating after maryland won a big basketball game. i think the sick cop who did it was jealous of this handsome college boy who he guessed had a bright future as a professional. the student sued and received a huge settlement.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-burge-torture-justice-center-met-20170526-story.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/27/chicago-abusive-confinment-homan-square
Quote: IbeatyouracesLook at crime statistics and you'll know why.
Unfortunately in this day and age, you're guilty until you prove otherwise.
In one sentence, you just justified racism. Congratulations.
Quote: boymimboIn one sentence, you just justified racism. Congratulations.
I suppose that the majority of prison inmates being black is due to racism as well? Or maybe is just that they aren't smart enough to get away with their crimes.
Quote: ahiromuFor an individual acting suspiciously at an active shooter site?
It was a suspected shooter, not an active shooter. In either case, taking cover and fleeing the scene is acting normal. Hundreds of others did the same thing
Quote: ahiromuThat said, we still don't know exactly what happened, I wonder when camera footage will pop up.
The police were wearing body cameras and the one who took down Michael Bennett didn't have his. Given that they there were reports of an active shooter, that in itself is a definite violation and significantly hurts their credibility
Quote: RossHThis is also the same same piece of shit who is refusing to stand for the national anthem. He got what he deserved.
Best to remain silent and be thought a fool than post ones thoughts and prove it.
Quote: gamerfreakCNN had a whole segment on the story this morning, but I agree it's not going to hurt vegas unless tourist shakedowns became some kind of regular thing.
I saw the LVPD segment and watched the police response and the TMZ video. It appears that Bennett exaggerated the incident. I doubt the Vegas police would come out and just vehemently deny the incident without having the evidence to back itself up.
Essentially their explanation was that the guy was behaving erratically and matched a description so they took him out.
This happens all of the time in every city and town in the country. Yes, it's racial profiling, and it's done subconsciously by pretty much everyone, white man like myself, included. It doesn't make it all right. We should be holding police up to a higher standard than me.
Quote: RossHThis is also the same same piece of s**t who is refusing to stand for the national anthem. He got what he deserved.
Did one ever stop and think why the national anthem has to be played at the sporting events? Why do we choose a pro/semi-pro game to honor the nation by singing its national anthem? Or do we just do it blindly because that's what we are supposed to do? Why do we pick those times to honor the country? What makes it special? It actually started getting played by accident in the 1918 world series and it took off from there (only on holidays and the World Series), before Congress declared it the national anthem in 1931... it wasn't until WW2 before it took off and became a prelude to all MLB games. The NHL picked up the habit in 1946 (for only the home country) and then included both countries (if different) in the early 60s.
Why is it televised sometimes, or never at all? How many of us stand at home when the anthem is being played, or do we just continue to eat our popcorn while it's playing? When we were younger and television stations came on and off the air, did any of us bother to stand at attention when the video played on the TV? No. Because nobody's watching us. We will just continue to do what we are doing while it plays.
It's social pressure. People stand and honor the flag because it's what we were taught and pressured to do in a social setting since World War 2. Acts by people to consciously make a political statement by not standing up to the social pressure is fine by me. I don't care, and I don't pay attention. I would just love to be able to go to an MLB game and NOT remove my cap and not pretend to listen to an amateur screw up the national anthem. But I won't because someone will look at me funny and beat me up for being an unpatriotic SOB (so I fear) -- I capitulate to social pressure.
Standing up and paying attention to a national anthem is like praying for someone. You are paying lip service. If you really want to honor your nation, do something to make it better. Singing the star-spangled banner off-key only make you feel good. The folks protesting by not singing are doing so to make a point - that they believe there is something wrong with the America that they live in. It's a sporting event. We are not sending people off to war, not at a funeral, and not honoring the military while we sing the anthem. So what's the big deal.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI suppose that the majority of prison inmates being black is due to racism as well? Or maybe is just that they aren't smart enough to get away with their crimes.
Well there's crime bias, where white people who perform white collared crimes don't serve (think about Wall Street) or aren't prosecuted or are given less severe penalties. There are connections between black people and poverty which stems back to racism. But just because there are more blacks in prison doesn't mean that most blacks are criminals and doesn't mean that we should be treating black people any differently than any other race.
Which is the problem. Blacks will just get stopped for standing around minding their own business or being in the wrong place in the wrong time. Whites hardly ever do - they are given the benefit of the doubt.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI suppose that the majority of prison inmates being black is due to racism as well? Or maybe is just that they aren't smart enough to get away with their crimes.
It's extremely sexist, too! Look at percentage of men vs women in prison.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI suppose that the majority of prison inmates being black is due to racism as well?
That might be a good supposition. How many of them were convicted by all-white juries? How many were arrested by white law enforcement officers? WoV forums have examples of members who are black or have black (or black-looking) relatives who report frequent confrontations with law enforcement for no apparent reason (such as what Michael Bennett reports). At the same time, white WoV members report law enforcement almost never stops them without clear cause (like speeding, maybe). Yup. It just might be due to racism that has festered as an unhealed wound in white society for a long, loooong time, until folks with camera phones started yanking the scab off. It's possible.
Quote: IbeatyouracesOr maybe is just that they aren't smart enough to get away with their crimes.
Rich people often get away with their crimes because they can hire an army of lawyers. Even rich blacks can do it. Ted Kennedy did it. Apparently, so did O. J. Simpson. Rich people seldom go to jail, and when they do, it is often to some country-club incarceration center.
I don't think the average black person is less smart than the average white person. But, America's education system appears to work better for whites than for blacks or other minorities. And, that was done by design.
For example, take Detroit (a place perhaps familiar to you). Correct me if I'm mistaken here, but aren't many of the smaller municipalities surrounding Detroit populated primarily by white families whose children attend school in those areas? While Detroit schools primarily serve minority pupils with (by comparison) meager budgets because of the less-economically-well-off resident population? That's the way it's been done most other places in America. You don't have to know very many blacks to understand minorities often have to work twice as hard for half as much (well, for women, it's 78 percent as much), and it's been going on for a long time.
Let's give all Americans an even start so we can see just who is or is not smart enough to "get away with stuff."
Quote: LuckyPhow(well, for women, it's 78 percent as much)
You should have left that part out.
Quote: RSYou should have left that part out.
The system has been rigged against women, too.
Quote: RSIt's extremely sexist, too! Look at percentage of men vs women in prison.
Of course, people will just say men are more likely to commit a crime than women and that won't be viewed as sexist.
Women cry their way out of it. 😉
Once in Denver, with my wife driving, a cop car pulled out of a parking lot behind us. I told her she would be stopped. I drove Colfax every night coming home from work at Midnight. Never stopped once. But them I am white.
But I knew after cop followed us for several blocks, well cops can stop you anytime they want to. Sure enough wife turned right on Kipling, signaled properly, perfect speed, etc. On came the red lights. Cop said stopped her because she made a wide turn. YEAH Cobble stone gutters and every other car would turn just like that. No ticket, car search, etc.. But then we are white. Can you imagine putting up with that shit 48 times ??? Have not seen the video, but sport show on radio said He was handcuffed behind back, face down, cop sitting on him, and another cop pointed a gun at him. WTF Did they think he was the incredible Hulk ? And the whole time he is calling the officer SIR !. Something ain't right there.
Quote: LuckyPhowThe system has been rigged against women, too.
Perhaps. But claiming there's "78% wage gap" (I'm assuming that's what the 78% refers to) doesn't help the case since it's essentially a myth and stated out of context.
Quote: RSPerhaps. But claiming there's "78% wage gap" (I'm assuming that's what the 78% refers to) doesn't help the case since it's essentially a myth and stated out of context.
Not a myth.
Not out of context.
The 78% refers to, for every $1 in wages a man makes, a woman in the same or comparable job makes 78 cents.
Most of my work life was spent in male-dominated professions. There are lots of reasons for this disparity, whole books worth. So not going to write one here. But you're wrong to dismiss this out of hand.
Something to keep in mind, as Trump systematically dismantles Obama's EOs , regulations , and legislation out of spite: there were good reasons for most, even all of them. This fact has been documented many times, and the political agenda behind discrediting it is manipulation of you, just like the facts behind identifing and changing racial profiling are true but being shaded by hidden agendas.
See these things for yourself. What gets done about them, how much time and money is spent, is separate from the fact that they exist.
Quote: beachbumbabsNot a myth.
Not out of context.
The 78% refers to, for every $1 in wages a man makes, a woman in the same or comparable job makes 78 cents.
Most of my work life was spent in male-dominated professions. There are lots of reasons for this disparity, whole books worth. So not going to write one here. But you're wrong to dismiss this out of hand.
Something to keep in mind, as Trump systematically dismantles Obama's EOs , regulations , and legislation out of spite: there were good reasons for most, even all of them. This fact has been documented many times, and the political agenda behind discrediting it is manipulation of you, just like the facts behind identifing and changing racial profiling are true but being shaded by hidden agendas.
See these things for yourself. What gets done about them, how much time and money is spent, is separate from the fact that they exist.
Yes, it is a myth. Men and women tend to follow different career paths. You see far more men in fields like engineering, computer science, as well as CEO types who've either gone up the ranks in a company or created their own. Women in general are either not interested in that type of stuff like engineering or have the ambition to create their own company or rise up the ranks of an existing company. I'm not saying all women are like this, but I'm saying in general. There are also far fewer men in fields like child care, teaching, and other jobs that do not tend to pay well. Also, men work more hours than women.
Paying someone based on gender, religion, race, and all that other stuff is illegal in the United States....so where are all these companies who are short-paying women? Do I hear a MaxPen conspiracy?
The supposed "wage gap" is due to taking the yearly income from all men and women who work full time jobs. It doesn't take into account the different jobs or any other factor.
To say there's a 22% wage gap (78 cents per $1) between men and women for doing the same comparable work.....is like saying there's a wage gap in my family. My dad and I both work full time in comparable jobs, he makes $250k/year and I only make $20k/year (who cares that I work at McDonald's but he's an anesthesiologist).*
My dad is not an anesthesiologist and I don't work at McDonald's.
What percentage pay did you make compared to the men you worked with?
I think in this case, like others, there is a rush to blame the police before all facts are known. If, it turns out, that Bennett's version is accurate, then I agree that action needs to be taken, and responsible parties be held accountable. But, I don't think we are close to that point yet.
Fixed that for you. Perhaps if the cops killing American citizens wasn't one of the top 10 ways to die in America, there wouldn't be a problem?Quote: MidwestAPI can't stand the environment we live in now, where police citizen literal bashing has become common and accepted...
It's just ironic, because that's exactly what the police do and why you see so many murders by them... They don't know the facts and they start pulling the triggers.Quote: MidwestAPI think in this case, like others, there is a rush to blame the police before all facts are known. If, it turns out, that Bennett's version is accurate, then I agree that action needs to be taken, and responsible parties be held accountable. But, I don't think we are close to that point yet.
I'm not even trying to put a ton of race in to this post, but the most obvious example to me... Last September... Female cop pulls over black man because she thought he looked like someone they were searching for (who knows how true that is - but basically the man didn't even commit a traffic violation). Draws her weapon and orders him out of the vehicle. He cooperates with every word she says. When out she orders him to put his hands on his car. With his hands raised he goes to put them on his car and then she starts shooting him, claiming he was reaching in the vehicle for a weapon when in fact the DOOR AND WINDOW WERE CLOSED. This man committed no crime, at all, and she cold blooded murdered him... THEN SHE WAS ACQUITTED OF THE MURDER EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ALL CAUGHT ON VIDEO. This is THE standard for the problem of police brutality in America. Cops keep killing people, and then because they're "a cop" they just get away with MURDER. You can only MURDER people for so long before they start to get pissed off and/or do something back. It's obvious. After this is when the "cop shootings" started to happen. I don't support the murders ON EITHER SIDE, but s**t, how obvious is it that if you keep murdering innocent civilians that they're going to start murdering you back?
Quote: MidwestAPI can't stand the environment we live in now, where police bashing has become common and accepted. Where it's presumed that any incident involving a black person and a cop, particularly non-black, is automatically identified as a racist action. It reminds me of the mentality that existed in the 70's where it was common to bash Vietnam service people because of their work in the war. Both service people and police represent the executive branch of our government and have extremely difficult jobs. Given that, I think they should be given the benefit of the doubt, until proven otherwise.
I think in this case, like others, there is a rush to blame the police before all facts are known. If, it turns out, that Bennett's version is accurate, then I agree that action needs to be taken, and responsible parties be held accountable. But, I don't think we are close to that point yet.
The weird part is the police bashing that comes from the left. What is their solution for corrupt government employees to whom we've given power over us? Why just a give them a little more power and money, of course. More body cams, more training, perhaps another .gov entity that can more effectively oversee police. I know I know, we are just one law away from utopia. If we could just have another government entity that oversees the cops, we'd all be happy. We also need another .gov that makes sure women get paid the same as men, that way no small business will ever compete with the big boys.
