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October 13th, 2021 at 12:57:45 PM permalink
I'll probably see it later this week. Is there a casino scene? It would be a shame if there isn't.
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October 13th, 2021 at 9:04:07 PM permalink
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I'll probably see it later this week. Is there a casino scene? It would be a shame if there isn't.
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There is not.
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October 14th, 2021 at 8:40:35 AM permalink
We saw No Time to Die last night. It is definitely edgier and more avant garde in cinematography than any of the past Bond movies I have watched (almost entirely Connery/Lazenby/Moore films, haven’t bothered with much else besides Craig’s Casino Royale).

It’s a bit long and drags at times but worth watching.

Bond dies at the end. But I think it’s a stretch to believe that this means that James Bond is a character versus any particular man. Reading too much into it to think such a thing, in my opinion.

007, yes, I’ll buy that 007 could be more than one agent. Indeed in No Time to Die, Bond is retired and a female takes over his position for a period of time as Agent 007. And Q and M might also be designations or ranks versus specific persons. But no, I don’t think that the point of the movie is that “James Bond” is not even any particular person and is a recurring moniker for various agents.

Consider the continuity in many of the Bond movies. Lazenby/Bond’s wife is killed in On Her Majesty’s Secret Service. Avenged by Connery/Bond in Diamonds are Forever. Mourned by Moore/Bond in For Your Eyes Only. This continuity between Bonds means that they are the same person.

Incidentally the notation on Teresa Bond’s gravestone “We have all the time in the world” (which is what Lazenby/Bond says to Teresa both as they drove off after their wedding, and as he cradles her dead body, and Craig/Bond said to Madeleine during happier times near the beginning of No Time to Die), is the closing theme in this latest Bond movie, when Bond repeats a form of this line ("You have all the time in the world”) to Madeleine after she tells him that Mathilde is his daughter, and he knows that his death is imminent. This recurring "all the time in the world" line, connects both the promise of happiness, and resulting ultimate tragedy, through two different Bonds, in two different movies.

As far as future Bonds, I assume they’ll just Reboot it with yet another character playing James Bond without necessarily addressing his death in No Time to Die.

CIA agent Felix Leiter, another recurring role in Bond films, is killed off too. Leiter, like Bond, is definitely a particular person, with recurring character familiarities. Let's see how he returns.

In general the entire Daniel Craig Bond series was a Reboot (for example Bond meets Leiter for the first time in Casino Royale - versus in other Bond films they come across as old friends since the Dr. No days) so the Craig series might just end up being a separate Bond reality that is closed, with an entirely new Reboot due for the future.
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October 16th, 2021 at 5:44:13 PM permalink
I've been reading through your 007 casino scene analysis newsletters and I even watched the "Alex Honnold Breaks Down Iconic Rock Climbing Scenes" video on YouTube for reference to what inspired you to start the scene analyses, and I love your idea. Looking forward to reading more.
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