Shuffle Master on Ultimate Texas Hold Em

So I used to really like Ultimate Texas Holdem until one day a dealer and me were talking and I asked him if he plays it on his off time and he said he would absolutely Never play it, I asked why? He said because the Shuffle Master machine, it knows what cards are going where. Since then I started to really watch all the ridiculous bad beats the dealer would give to the rest of the table, so many 2,K,4 on flop, 6,Q on river and what does the dealer have every time? 3,5 for the ridiculous straight. Also since then I have had many other dealers tell me the same thing, that there is no way they would play because the machine is fixed like a slot machine.

I played again one day and when I sat down the pit boss came over and I asked what they were entering in the computer and they said how much I cashed in for, I said "oh, anything else?", they said my wager, I said "anything else?", they said how many players were playing, I said "why does that matter, the machine deals out 2 cards non stop regardless how many are playing", they had no answer.

Another time whenever the pit boss wasn't around I would play 2 hands and low and behold the person at 3rd base was now getting the dealers cards and were cleaning up.

Wondering what everyone else's opinion on this is?

Anything is possible.

Wow it's almost like the casino has an advantage.

Quote: joek3533

So I used to really like Ultimate Texas Holdem until one day a dealer and me were talking and I asked him if he plays it on his off time and he said he would absolutely Never play it, I asked why? He said because the Shuffle Master machine, it knows what cards are going where. Since then I started to really watch all the ridiculous bad beats the dealer would give to the rest of the table, so many 2,K,4 on flop, 6,Q on river and what does the dealer have every time? 3,5 for the ridiculous straight. Also since then I have had many other dealers tell me the same thing, that there is no way they would play because the machine is fixed like a slot machine.

I played again one day and when I sat down the pit boss came over and I asked what they were entering in the computer and they said how much I cashed in for, I said "oh, anything else?", they said my wager, I said "anything else?", they said how many players were playing, I said "why does that matter, the machine deals out 2 cards non stop regardless how many are playing", they had no answer.

Another time whenever the pit boss wasn't around I would play 2 hands and low and behold the person at 3rd base was now getting the dealers cards and were cleaning up.

Wondering what everyone else's opinion on this is?

You are getting wrong info.

The shuffle machine can sort cards back into new deck order. It can't deal certain cards to certain positions.

The Pit Boss was definitely writing down your start time, buy in and average bet. He was not writing down how many players were playing on the table with you, unless it was on a separate document called a head count or something similar. This head count is done every hour for every table to help with scheduling and employee management.

Go back to playing UTH.


ZCore13

#FakeNews

Quote: joek3533

So I used to really like Ultimate Texas Holdem until one day a dealer and me were talking and I asked him if he plays it on his off time and he said he would absolutely Never play it, I asked why? He said because the Shuffle Master machine, it knows what cards are going where. Since then I started to really watch all the ridiculous bad beats the dealer would give to the rest of the table, so many 2,K,4 on flop, 6,Q on river and what does the dealer have every time? 3,5 for the ridiculous straight. Also since then I have had many other dealers tell me the same thing, that there is no way they would play because the machine is fixed like a slot machine.

I played again one day and when I sat down the pit boss came over and I asked what they were entering in the computer and they said how much I cashed in for, I said "oh, anything else?", they said my wager, I said "anything else?", they said how many players were playing, I said "why does that matter, the machine deals out 2 cards non stop regardless how many are playing", they had no answer.

Another time whenever the pit boss wasn't around I would play 2 hands and low and behold the person at 3rd base was now getting the dealers cards and were cleaning up.

Wondering what everyone else's opinion on this is?

i have recently just released my take on the situation about blackjack and the md3 shuffle master machines. its called "The parity problem" and it sounds like it might pertain to what is happening with the hold em poker hands.

In my opinion, to make a long story short, you arent necessarily playing the game you think you are playing, but a functionally similar game that plays like holdem, or in my case, blackjack, but I do play hold em in my local poker room and do think the hands are a bit off so to say but i cant say for sure that i would say the post Ive recently made does pertain. it just sounds like it to me.

Quote: joek3533

So I used to really like Ultimate Texas Holdem until one day ...

Hmm... Places I play UTH generally use a shuffle machine like that used at a poker table. It delivers a full deck to the Dealer. Usually the Dealer cuts the cards before starting the hand. That fixes any problem with the shuffle machine shafting the players.

I have never found a casino that would allow me to play two hands, even if I was the only player at the table. That would be like one player getting to see another player's cards before deciding how to bet.

Does every casino where you play use a shuffle machine that spits out 2-card hands, one hand at a time? Where do you play?

Quote: heatmap

i have recently just released my take on the situation about blackjack and the md3 shuffle master machines. its called "The parity problem" and it sounds like it might pertain to what is happening with the hold em poker hands.

In my opinion, to make a long story short, you arent necessarily playing the game you think you are playing, but a functionally similar game that plays like holdem, or in my case, blackjack, but I do play hold em in my local poker room and do think the hands are a bit off so to say but i cant say for sure that i would say the post Ive recently made does pertain. it just sounds like it to me.

I'm not sure if I should say lol or huh?


ZCore13

Quote: Zcore13

I'm not sure if I should say lol or huh?


ZCore13

the poll allows you to vote for one of those choices ;-) its like im in your mind already

Quote: joek3533

...Another time whenever the pit boss wasn't around I would play 2 hands and low and behold the person at 3rd base was now getting the dealers cards and were cleaning up.

Wondering what everyone else's opinion on this is?

So why wouldn't you keep this a secret? You and a buddy go sit 1st and 3rd base... when the pit marks "2 players" and leaves, you go to 2 hands... then have your buddy bet the table max and make money hand over fist???

lol?