Amitk
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December 26th, 2017 at 10:24:15 PM permalink
Hi
I am great fan of your website since ages and learned a
A lot about blackjack game

I wish to know whether u have any basic strategy for
6 deck blackjack with 8 picture cards removed

Thankx
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December 26th, 2017 at 10:52:50 PM permalink
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Romes
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December 26th, 2017 at 11:42:21 PM permalink
Quote: Amitk

Hi
I am great fan of your website since ages and learned a
A lot about blackjack game

I wish to know whether u have any basic strategy for
6 deck blackjack with 8 picture cards removed

Thankx

Hi Amitk, and welcome to the forums

A 6 deck blackjack game with all the picture cards removed (K, Q, and J) would start off the top at a negative running count of -72, and a true count of ~ -16. This game, without knowing any other rules, has an EXTRA 8%+ house advantage over any "normal" game of blackjack. I would NEVER play this game. Even if they had some 'great' rules, such as early surrender, 5 card charlie, resplit aces, stand 17, etc, etc, etc. The house edge on this game is just absolutely awful. Hell, the only way you can even get a blackjack in this game of "blackjack" is with A-10, not even any JACKS!
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
Amitk
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December 26th, 2017 at 11:52:56 PM permalink
Hi wizard

I am talking about here is basic strategy for 8 nos of picture card( including tens) removed
In a 6 decks of blackjack game with almost all the liberals and normal
Rules of blackjack

Thanks
Last edited by: Amitk on Dec 27, 2017
ChesterDog
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December 27th, 2017 at 8:47:53 AM permalink
Quote: Amitk

Hi
I am great fan of your website since ages and learned a
A lot about blackjack game

I wish to know whether u have any basic strategy for
6 deck blackjack with 8 picture cards removed

Thankx



To get an approximate answer I used the infinite-deck model with 8 tens removed per 6 decks. I used the rules: dealer stands on soft 17, surrender allowed, split pairs to 4 hands, re-split aces but no hitting split aces, double any two cards, and double after split. By the way, the infinite-deck model gives a house edge of 1.11%.

Below is the strategy:

HAND\UP
up = 2
up = 3
up = 4
up = 5
up = 6
up = 7
up = 8
up = 9
up = 10
up = A
soft19
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
soft18
S
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
S
S
.
.
.
soft17
.
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
.
.
.
.
.
soft16
.
.
DBL
DBL
DBL
.
.
.
.
.
soft15
.
.
.
DBL
DBL
.
.
.
.
.
soft14
.
.
.
.
DBL
.
.
.
.
.
soft13
.
.
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.
.
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.
.
.
hard17
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
hard16
S
S
S
S
S
.
.
.
SUR
SUR
hard15
S
S
S
S
S
.
.
.
.
.
hard14
S
S
S
S
S
.
.
.
.
.
hard13
.
S
S
S
S
.
.
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.
.
hard12
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.
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.
.
.
hard11
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
.
hard10
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
DBL
.
.
hard9
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.
DBL
DBL
DBL
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hard8
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pair10s
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pair9s
split
split
split
split
split
.
split
split
.
.
pair8s
split
split
split
split
split
split
split
split
split
split
pair7s
split
split
split
split
split
split
.
.
.
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pair6s
.
split
split
split
split
.
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pair5s
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pair4s
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split
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pair3s
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split
split
split
split
split
.
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pair2s
split
split
split
split
split
split
.
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pairAs
split
split
split
split
split
split
split
split
split
split
Amitk
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December 27th, 2017 at 4:39:54 PM permalink
Hi

Thank you for your rephrased basic strategy chart
For 6 deck blackjack game with 8 nos of tens removed

Further, now Sir i want to know the running count at the starting of the same deck and is this deck beatable.
Last edited by: Amitk on Dec 27, 2017
QFIT
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December 27th, 2017 at 5:28:37 PM permalink
Quote: Amitk

Hi

Thank you for your rephrased basic strategy chart
For 6 deck blackjack game with 8 nos of tens removed

Further, now Sir i want to know the running count at the starting of the same deck and is this deck beatable.



You would need to provide exact rules and exactly what you mean by 8 nos of tens removed and why you would want to use basic strategy. (But, what do I know? I'm just a troll.)
"It is impossible to begin to learn that which one thinks one already knows." -Epictetus
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December 27th, 2017 at 6:06:43 PM permalink
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(But, what do I know? I'm just a troll.)



That is what he said.🤐

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If memory serves KJ was a very valued contributor who got into a heated back n forth with a trolling defender of some person or gambling system. I dont remember exact details

The argument escalated till both were blatantly violating the rules. Both were warned to drop it and neither did

There was a huge upset on here at losing KJ because of a troll

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December 27th, 2017 at 6:06:43 PM permalink
duplicate
Amitk
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January 9th, 2018 at 9:25:56 PM permalink
Hi
Six deck blackjack with all basic rules but 8 nos
Of tens removed.
Is it beatable by rephrased basic strategy and counting

Thanks
Romes
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January 10th, 2018 at 7:53:41 AM permalink
Quote: Amitk

Hi
Six deck blackjack with all basic rules but 8 nos
Of tens removed.
Is it beatable by rephrased basic strategy and counting

Thanks

I have no idea what "8 nos of tens removed" means.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
QFIT
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January 10th, 2018 at 8:40:15 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

I have no idea what "8 nos of tens removed" means.



Well, unlike cowboys, cowgirls and knaves, Bo Dereks have no noses.

(Or, to a tracker, unlike kid, qed, and jade, ted has no nose.)
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January 10th, 2018 at 9:03:21 AM permalink
Quote: QFIT

You would need to provide exact rules and exactly what you mean by 8 nos of tens removed and why you would want to use basic strategy. (But, what do I know? I'm just a troll.)



Personal insult to ones self

3 day suspension

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January 10th, 2018 at 10:14:48 AM permalink
Are you saying there's going to be 86 cards with a 10 value instead of the usual 96? If so, no, that is not a beatable game without some other rule change to offset the cost of the lost 10s.
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