pacomartin
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April 21st, 2012 at 1:51:42 PM permalink
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Here is the place where China will finally test that massive new Navy they are building.



China bothering one of our ships in the high seas.
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April 21st, 2012 at 2:17:02 PM permalink
It is a problem. China is taking much more than they are entitled to under UNCLOS (United Nations Convention on Law of the Sea).

UNCLOS Article 57

Breadth of the exclusive economic zone

The exclusive economic zone shall not extend beyond 200 nautical miles from the baselines from which the breadth of the territorial sea is measured.


China is a signatory to UNCLOS.
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April 21st, 2012 at 2:28:29 PM permalink
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April 21st, 2012 at 2:29:07 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

The exclusive economic zone shall not extend beyond 200 nautical miles from the baselines from which the breadth of the territorial sea is measured.



The problem is that word "baselines" which means different things to different people.

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April 21st, 2012 at 2:37:06 PM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

The problem is that word "baselines" which means different things to different people.

UNCLOS Article 5

Normal baseline

Except where otherwise provided in this Convention, the normal baseline for measuring the breadth of the territorial sea is the low-water line along the coast as marked on large-scale charts officially recognized by the coastal State.


There is only one interpretation of this rule that I can see. What other argument is China possibly making? I think it is based on historical sovereignty. Basically, it comes down to whomever has the largest naval presence in the area.


Control of island features: China=9 reefs. Vietnam=6 islands, 16 reefs, 6 banks. Malaysia=1 artifical island, 5 reefs, 1 shoal. Philippines=7 island, 1 reef. Taiwan=1 island, 1 reef.
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April 21st, 2012 at 2:39:47 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

What other argument is China possibly making?



A treaty is effective until it becomes inconvenient to one of the signatories.
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April 22nd, 2012 at 2:34:42 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

What other argument is China possibly making? I think it is based on historical sovereignty. Basically, it comes down to whomever has the largest naval presence in the area.



Mainland China and Taiwan base their claims on historical discovery.

China views any and all efforts by the Philippines and Vietnam to explore and exploit resources in the South China Sea as a violation of its sovereignty. In 2008, for example, China targeted U.S. oil companies operating in the South China Sea and warned them their commercial interests in China would suffer if they assisted Vietnam in oil exploration.
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