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January 17th, 2011 at 10:34:19 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

On a more practical note, a friend of mine once made a bet that he could eat 100 McNuggets. I think he got to 86 when he admitted defeat.



Hmm, how much time did he have to complete the challenge? Given enough time, you could eat an entire bicycle, kickstand and all.
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January 18th, 2011 at 1:03:12 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

The bigger question is why would anyone want to eat so many Chicken McNuggets?



Prop bet?
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January 18th, 2011 at 1:04:37 AM permalink
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I could say the same thing, but must admit, I loved McDonalds as a kid. Who didn't? Even in college, I don't think I could get to 100, but would have enjoyed the challenge. In my prime I think I could have easily made 60.



I'll bet you I can do 100, I had a bet with Bankroll but he bailed at the last minute. I think it's doable, although I did have second thoughts after watching some youtube videos of people trying it.
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January 18th, 2011 at 2:25:52 AM permalink
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I'll bet you I can do 100, I had a bet with Bankroll but he bailed at the last minute. I think it's doable, although I did have second thoughts after watching some youtube videos of people trying it.



Assuming each nugget weighs an ounce, thats over 6 pounds of food. Most people have about a 5 pound limit before they shut down, for many its far less than 5. And thats assuming they weigh an ounce. Can you eat a 6 pound steak? Same thing.
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January 18th, 2011 at 2:32:41 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Assuming each nugget weighs an ounce, thats over 6 pounds of food. Most people have about a 5 pound limit before they shut down, for many its far less than 5. And thats assuming they weigh an ounce. Can you eat a 6 pound steak? Same thing.



I know it is doable but not easy. Dunno if I could do it but it would be a fun prop bet, I'd take a shot. Considering WOO always wins our bets I'm sure I will lose this one also.
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January 18th, 2011 at 3:50:27 AM permalink
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I'll bet you I can do 100, I had a bet with Bankroll but he bailed at the last minute. I think it's doable, although I did have second thoughts after watching some youtube videos of people trying it.



I accept! I'll give you one hour. You can use all the sauce and drinks you like. I'd prefer to bet around $500, but if that isn't enough to motivate you, then I think I could find others to take the NO, including our buddy RF.
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January 18th, 2011 at 5:20:03 AM permalink
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I accept! I'll give you one hour. You can use all the sauce and drinks you like. I'd prefer to bet around $500, but if that isn't enough to motivate you, then I think I could find others to take the NO, including our buddy RF.



Let's get dinner next week the three of us and work out terms. Plus I know RF wants to talk to me about Thailand. I've got a girl from back home in town til Monday so anytime after that.
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January 18th, 2011 at 7:29:05 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I accept! I'll give you one hour. You can use all the sauce and drinks you like. I'd prefer to bet around $500, but if that isn't enough to motivate you, then I think I could find others to take the NO, including our buddy RF.



Be careful about setting terms.

The one time I bet on eating was quite simple. the challenge was to eat a whole slice of bread in 20 seconds or less. Try it, it's hard. The guy we bet against smooshed the bread into a ball (bread is mostly empty pockets of air) and ate that in 15 seconds flat.

So be precise about not liquefying the nuggets with a blender, or cutting them into pieces small enough to swallow and other tricks like that.

BTW eating so many chicken nuggets is a very unhealthy thing to do, as has been pointed out. Too much fat and sodium. If you have to go through with it, pick a McDonald's close to a hospital.
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January 18th, 2011 at 8:19:18 AM permalink
I know about the bread trick. Recently I won a bet that somebody couldn't eat a big hot dog in 30 seconds, because I knew the bun would take a while. As I understand it, the bread absorbs the moisture in the mouth, and it takes a little time to build up more to wash down the bread. Crumpling the bread in a ball is a clever idea.

Jim is welcome to take the health warnings under advisement. I would let him out of the bet for those reasons if he wanted. If the fat/salt/whatever levels got too high then I would think his body would purge to prevent the levels from getting too unsafe. Speaking of which, I think if that happens, even after the hour, then it should be a loss for Jim. Would the critics make the same warning about the burrito challenge at the Sahara, which I wrote about in my review of that casino?

Good point about using tricks to get them down, which I would oppose. I'm going to ask that the only aids he can have are anything available at McDonalds, namely the sauce and drinks. If he wants to cut them in little pieces with a plastic knife I would be okay with it.
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January 18th, 2011 at 8:38:42 AM permalink
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Would the critics make the same warning about the burrito challenge at the Sahara, which I wrote about in my review of that casino?



I would. But then I also assume the restaurant has insurance and lawyers and has taken liability into account. Did the vic- I mean contestant sign a waiver of some kind before he began eating?

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Good point about using tricks to get them down, which I would oppose. I'm going to ask that they only aids he can have are anything available at McDonalds, namely the sauce and drinks. If he wants to cut them in little pieces with a plastic knife I would be okay with it.



Change that to "anything available to regular customers at McD's." Otherwise the vic- I mean participant can find a loophole or three. When considering terms, always ask yourself "how would the other side use these terms to cheat, and how do I stop them from doing so?"
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January 18th, 2011 at 8:47:06 AM permalink
Quote: dwheatley

6 chicken mcnuggets weigh 114g (source). 310 calories, 21g of fat, and 670 mg of sodium.

Multiply by 100/6, to get:

1900g, 5167 calories, 350g of fat, 11167mg of sodium.

4.2 lbs, double the average daily calorie intake, over 5 times your recommended daily fat intake, and over 4.5 times your recommended sodium intake.

Gross.


Using Bag a McMeal:
4360 calories, 288g of fat, 10050mg sodium. Wow, just wow. Hope you don't need any sauce: about 50 cals each.
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January 18th, 2011 at 9:27:18 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

... I would think his body would purge to prevent the levels from getting too unsafe. Speaking of which, I think if that happens, even after the hour, then it should be a loss for Jim. Would the critics make the same warning about the burrito challenge at the Sahara, which I wrote about in my review of that casino?

You could check to see how Man v Food handles that.

Some of the challenges end successfully once the food is gone.

Some, particularly the ones featuring spicy foods, have not only a time limit, but an after-finishing delay where he still can't "wash it down".

In both cases, once he is crowned victorious, that's it.

Of course, you can make your own rules, but clarify them. I.E. "...if that happens, even after the hour..." How long after the hour would you need to be satisfied? And if he loses it one second later, it's still a victory.

I say he needs to keep the McNuggets down at least 15 minutes. On the flip side, fried food tends to run thru the system rather quickly, so no trips to the bathroom either, for, say, 30 minutes.
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January 18th, 2011 at 1:10:33 PM permalink
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... On the flip side, fried food tends to run thru the system rather quickly, so no trips to the bathroom either, for, say, 30 minutes.

If you're going to monitor the situation personally, then I highly recommend that you do not implement this restriction.

Ugh! Disgusting!
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January 18th, 2011 at 1:13:18 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I know about the bread trick. Recently I won a bet that somebody couldn't eat a big hot dog in 30 seconds, because I knew the bun would take a while. As I understand it, the bread absorbs the moisture in the mouth, and it takes a little time to build up more to wash down the bread. Crumpling the bread in a ball is a clever idea.

Jim is welcome to take the health warnings under advisement. I would let him out of the bet for those reasons if he wanted. If the fat/salt/whatever levels got too high then I would think his body would purge to prevent the levels from getting too unsafe. Speaking of which, I think if that happens, even after the hour, then it should be a loss for Jim. Would the critics make the same warning about the burrito challenge at the Sahara, which I wrote about in my review of that casino?

Good point about using tricks to get them down, which I would oppose. I'm going to ask that they only aids he can have are anything available at McDonalds, namely the sauce and drinks. If he wants to cut them in little pieces with a plastic knife I would be okay with it.



I've made food bets with people in the past, I've never been the one doing the eating though but the standard rule we've had is you have to keep it down for the hour obviously and 10 minutes following. If someone pukes a hour after eating we've called it a win. Same thing with the milk bet, my buddy had a hour to drink it and then had to hold it down for another 10 minutes, he didn't even last the hour before he was spewing milk all over the place.

Biggest thing for me is they have to be fresh nuggets. Nothing is worse than going to McDonald's, ordering food and getting nuggets that were obviously made a few hours ago.
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January 18th, 2011 at 1:58:30 PM permalink
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If you're going to monitor the situation personally, then I highly recommend that you do not implement this restriction.

Ugh! Disgusting!

I'm just floating ideas here....
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January 18th, 2011 at 3:01:50 PM permalink
If the Nuggets complete their journey, I think they've been eaten. I don't think the challenge should be to eat 100 Nuggets and not digest them.
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January 18th, 2011 at 3:40:13 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I accept! I'll give you one hour. You can use all the sauce and drinks you like. I'd prefer to bet around $500, but if that isn't enough to motivate you, then I think I could find others to take the NO, including our buddy RF.



According to the Major League Eating website, the world record is 80 McNuggets....

In FIVE minutes.

If you run it like the Fourth of July hot dog contest, all you have to do is close your lips when the time expires. There is no hold it down "overtime" rule. However, the rules vary by food. In all cases a, "reversal of fortune" during the contest is a DQ.

Edit: As a side note, this record is held by Sonya, "Black Widow" Thomas, who only weighs 105 lbs. She also holds the record for eating a nine pound, "Big Daddy" cheeseburger (listed as at the Plaza Hotel in LV, but I thought it was at the Vegas Club), in 27 minutes flat.
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January 18th, 2011 at 4:13:03 PM permalink
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If the Nuggets complete their journey, I think they've been eaten. I don't think the challenge should be to eat 100 Nuggets and not digest them.

Well, I didn't want to get too graphic, but I guess you're forcing me.

Occasionally, when I eat too much fried food, I'll get hit with what I describe as explosive diarrhea, and it often hits me within about 15-20 minutes.

THAT'S why I suggest no runs to the bathroom for half an hour.
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January 18th, 2011 at 4:15:53 PM permalink
Going out the backdoor should still be a win, regardless of velocity.
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January 18th, 2011 at 4:22:27 PM permalink
+1... there was no need to go into details... I was just saying that following the full path of the digestive track doesn't strike me as a term to void the bet.. unless you suspected shenanigans with ex-Lax. And even then, giving yourself the two-bob-bits (*) to ingest more food is probably not a winning strategy overall anyways

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January 18th, 2011 at 4:26:57 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

+1... there was no need to go into details... I was just saying that following the full path of the digestive track doesn't strike me as a term to void the bet.. unless you suspected shenanigans with ex-Lax. And even then, giving yourself the two-bob-bits (*) to ingest more food is probably not a winning strategy overall anyways

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Bahahaha...
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January 18th, 2011 at 4:33:51 PM permalink
My favourite German word is Durchfall. It means, literally, Through Fall (or Through Case/Event)
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January 18th, 2011 at 4:33:53 PM permalink
The thought of eating one of those greasy, salty pieces of faux food makes me ill. 4+ pounds? Insane.
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January 18th, 2011 at 5:13:59 PM permalink
I think Jim's idea that you can't throw up for 10 minutes after the hour is reasonable. I'd prefer longer, but this supposed to be in fun, so won't ruin it by driving a hard bargain. Going out the back end seems fair to me, as that would have completed the eating process. Our mutual friend RF is excited about betting the under, so I don't think coming up with enough money will be the issue. I'll keep you posted.

Getting back on topic, I think a good math question is to come up with an equation to determine the McNugget answer for any possible sets you can buy. Start out easy with just two possibilities, where the smaller does not evenly divide the larger.
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January 18th, 2011 at 5:51:21 PM permalink
"But perhaps the most alarming ingredient in a Chicken McNugget is tertiary butylhydroquinone, or TBHQ, an antioxidant derived from petroleum that is sprayed directly on the nugget to "help preserve freshness." According to A Consumer's Dictionary of Food Additives, TBHQ is a form of butane (i.e. lighter fluid) the FDA allows processors to use sparingly in our food: It can comprise no more than 0.02 percent of the oil in a nugget. Which is probably just as well, considering that ingesting a single gram of TBHQ can cause "nausea, vomiting, ringing in the ears, delirium, a sense of suffocation, and collapse." Ingesting five grams of TBHQ can kill."

Yum! How much do you ingest with 100 nuggets?

"McDonald's Chicken McNuggets are made from old chickens no longer able to lay eggs. These chickens are stripped down to the bone, and then "ground up" into a chicken mash then combined with a variety of stabilizers and preservatives, pressed into familiar shapes, breaded and deep fried, freeze dried, and then shipped to a McDonald's near you."

Start the car, honey, we're eating out tonight!
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January 18th, 2011 at 6:42:19 PM permalink
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... "McDonald's Chicken McNuggets are made from old chickens no longer able to lay eggs. ..."


Were you basing that quote on the old documentary by Spurlock? I'm not sure that is a reliable source of information.
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January 18th, 2011 at 6:59:40 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

Were you basing that quote on the old documentary by Spurlock? I'm not sure that is a reliable source of information.



Gotta do something with those old chickens, they ain't good for anything else. One nugget has 37 different ingredients, all of them yummy.
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February 16th, 2011 at 9:42:03 PM permalink
So how did the bet go?
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February 16th, 2011 at 10:49:00 PM permalink
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February 17th, 2011 at 7:26:58 AM permalink
My son has done some of these type contests. He is small, maybe 5'6" 145lbs. He did 2 giant burritos from Burrito Bay in less than 1/2 an hour. This earned him a T shirt and mention on their website. I would surmise that any CE (competitive eater) would consider 100 nuggets in an hour a warm up snack. If I may brag, my son also won what I think they call the "Homer Simpson run". I believe he had to eat a dozen Krispy Kreme donuts then run 2 miles. I think I could do maybe 30 nuggets before getting sick. I think a nugget weighs less than 1 ounce, so I would bet 'with' anyone who thinks they can do it. Keep us informed
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February 17th, 2011 at 7:35:25 AM permalink
I was in McDs yesterday, thinking about this challenge.

They sell 20 McNuggets for $5. That goes with the idea that McD food is cheap.

As such, this challenge is to eat $20 worth of them.

Damn. $20 worth of McD is a lot of food!
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February 17th, 2011 at 7:35:31 AM permalink
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If I may brag, my son also won what I think they call the "Homer Simpson run". I believe he had to eat a dozen Krispy Kreme donuts then run 2 miles. I think I could do maybe 30 nuggets before getting sick.



I understand the reference to donuts, but I can't imagine Homer Simpson running :)

BTW the one time Homer took part in an eating contest, that I recall, he lost. That was hilarious. The comeptition was against a trucker at a steakhouse, and both had to eat these huge steaks. Homer gives up when he says "I don't understand. There's still food on the plate but I don't want to eat it." Anyway, the trucker ate the whole thing, and died. Homer then winds up making his delivery.
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February 17th, 2011 at 8:10:21 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I was in McDs yesterday, thinking about this challenge.

They sell 20 McNuggets for $5. That goes with the idea that McD food is cheap.

As such, this challenge is to eat $20 worth of them.

Damn. $20 worth of McD is a lot of food!



DJ needs math help........ The challenge is $25 worth of greaseballs.
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February 17th, 2011 at 8:39:46 AM permalink
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DJ needs math help........ The challenge is $25 worth of greaseballs.

Damn! That makes it even worse!



(Serves me right for neglecting to use Excel or Texas Instruments on that one....)
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March 26th, 2011 at 6:41:16 AM permalink
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I accept! I'll give you one hour. You can use all the sauce and drinks you like. I'd prefer to bet around $500, but if that isn't enough to motivate you, then I think I could find others to take the NO, including our buddy RF.



If the challenge is still on, my son wants to accept. 100 mcnuggets in one hour. 10 minute 'hold em in after' requirement. But I asked him if we could make it more interesting. He will be required to run 2 miles. Then he will be required to perfectly complete the last 2 New York Times daily crossword puzzles. Then he can use whatever time is remaining to eat the 100 mcnuggets. He will risk $10, and the Wiz will put up a signed copy of his book. Unfortunately work prevented me from coming for WoV convention, and we will be in Vegas after the Sahara shuts down, but... this will do.. He will be available either May 24 or 25 at the Wiz's convenience. We will need logistical help in setting up a clear path for him to run, and getting the McNuggets and puzzles. I make him even money to be able to do it. For those interested his name is David Plotkin, and you can google his name and 'crossword' to see his recent success in the New York Times Crossword championship- first in the world for those under 25, and 11th overall.
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March 26th, 2011 at 11:56:42 AM permalink
What are Chicken McNuggets made from? (Joke) Haven't been to a McDonalds in years. Food is nasty there!
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March 26th, 2011 at 3:55:49 PM permalink
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What are Chicken McNuggets made from?



38 wonderful, almost edible ingredients. They mix it into a goo and shape it and fry it. Just like Grandma used to do..
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March 26th, 2011 at 4:17:57 PM permalink
My wife and I has a semi-serious discussion today on whether I could eat 100 McNuggets in an hour. Perhaps that would make for some good entertainment at the WoVCon in June. More to come later....
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March 26th, 2011 at 4:47:55 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

If the challenge is still on, my son wants to accept.



Since you've already professed your son's eating credentials, I would not want to bet enough to make it worth his discomfort. Like $100 tops. If that is enough, I would Googlemap out a 2-mile circular route starting at any McDonalds.
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March 26th, 2011 at 4:58:06 PM permalink
You are on. I'll leave it up to you to pick a time and date. Let us know.
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March 26th, 2011 at 5:23:17 PM permalink
Reminds me of the time on Malcomb in the Middle when they challenged the oldest kid that he couldn't 100 marshmallow Peep's at one sitting. He almost made it.....
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March 26th, 2011 at 6:40:32 PM permalink
The Mcdonalds near me sells 3 cookies (oatmeal or choc chip) for a dollar. That's only 75 cookies for $25.

I'm not sure about the "only" part, but sounds doable for eating purposes.
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October 4th, 2013 at 5:55:19 PM permalink
Yum.

Quote:

“This is cartilage. This is gastrointestinal tissue. There’s all kinds of random stuff in there that’s not chicken meat,” Dr. Richard deShazo, a professor of medicine and pediatrics at the University of Mississippi Medical Center said.

deShazo, along with two other Mississippi researchers examined two nuggets from two different national fast food chains in Jackson and published the findings in the American Journal of Medicine. They selected one nugget from each box, dissected the nuggets and looked under the microscope.

The first nugget was about half muscle, and the other half was fat, blood vessels and nerves, the researchers wrote in their study. In a closer inspection, researchers found cells that line the skin and internal organs of chickens.

The second nugget was only 40 percent of muscle, and the remainder was fat, cartilage and pieces of bone.



http://www.opposingviews.com/i/health/food-and-nutrition/what-s-chicken-nugget#
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October 4th, 2013 at 9:03:47 PM permalink
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What was the result of that one? You guys were building up to it, and then there is a 2 1/2 year time skip in the thread.



See for yourself:

part 1
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October 4th, 2013 at 9:04:56 PM permalink
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See for yourself:

part 1
part 2



I split the part of this thread involving my eating of the Nuggets into a new thread, for anyone looking for that.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/casual-corner/15346-mission-nuggets/#post275495
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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