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November 7th, 2021 at 9:06:55 AM permalink
Cooperation Game II was over three years ago, so I think it's time to play again!

This time, the rules will be somewhat based on The Squid Game. Especially in the manner that I can make up rules as I go and players can be eliminated.

However, I will abide by these rules:

1. A total of at least $200 in prize money will be awarded somehow to the top players.
2. Scores will be in points, as opposed to money.
3. There will be ten competitive rounds.

Unlike last time, there will be no banking of money or points. I am not interested in making 40 or so micropayments. The way I see it now, only the top three players will get anything. I may give some chances to individually gamble with points late in the game, so that everybody who hasn't been eliminated will have a chance.

That said, for now, please indicate if you wish to play. This is a complete free roll so I can't think of any reason to not play.
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November 7th, 2021 at 9:19:36 AM permalink
How do you play?

I'm not getting shot on the red light am I?
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November 7th, 2021 at 10:31:42 AM permalink
I can remember nothing about how to play the game.... But count me in.
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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November 7th, 2021 at 11:13:28 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

How do you play?

I'm not getting shot on the red light am I?
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Ditto.

If we get eliminated, are we eliminated from the forum? 😳

Hell, it痴 a small risk. I知 in. 🤪
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November 7th, 2021 at 12:55:02 PM permalink
I don't recall what game this one was, but I am in for the upcoming game. I do recall the first game was a Share/Steal game and I was on the winning team---we even decided to Steal in the last round!

Anyway, I will say upfront that this time, I am playing with no strategy other than to always do the most cooperative thing possible. I've had my share of any winnings donated on my behalf for every game that I have won---but I was playing to maximize winnings the first game like this just for fun.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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November 7th, 2021 at 1:45:18 PM permalink
I壇 play if it痴 not a large required time commitment.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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November 7th, 2021 at 2:25:32 PM permalink
I値l play
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November 7th, 2021 at 3:49:09 PM permalink
I went back to remind myself of the old cooperation game rules. Found this little gem!
WizCoin=Bitcoin.
So at that time, RS deemed an acceptable rate of exchange to be $1,000 per Bitcoin.
This 3.5 years later, Bitcoin is about $61,000

I wonder if Wizard still has any WizCoin in circulation?




Quote: RS

I知 in.
...

Instead of $1 or $2 can I take payments of 0.001 or 0.002 WZC (WizCoin)?
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November 7th, 2021 at 4:19:21 PM permalink
Count me in. We finished streaming Squid Game a week or two ago.
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November 7th, 2021 at 4:42:53 PM permalink
The Cooperation Game is based on the prisoner's dilemma. You will have to only decide to "share" or "steal."

An example round, in the past, might have been to divide $20 to all players who vote "steal," with the exception if everyone votes steal nobody gets anything and if everyone votes share, they equally split the $20. The decisions are meant to put you to a test of doing what is best for the group or best for yourself.

I will probably do one round every four days. So, I do ask that players that sign up do keep up with it.

Here are the confirmed players thus far:

OnceDear
DJTeddyBear
Mission146
drmario
JohnnyQ
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OnceDear
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November 7th, 2021 at 5:01:59 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Here are the confirmed players thus far:

OnceDear
DJTeddyBear
Mission146
drmario
JohnnyQ
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If Mdawg plays, I hope I get to be in his team. $;o)
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November 7th, 2021 at 7:58:40 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Quote: Wizard

Here are the confirmed players thus far:

OnceDear
DJTeddyBear
Mission146
drmario
JohnnyQ
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If Mdawg plays, I hope I get to be in his team. $;o)
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I'm not playing and I will suggest other's not play.
This forum used to be about NON-Betting systems and real-life gambling experience type of community, even if you were not an AP... math, logic, and realism mattered. It's become something totally different in the last year or so. We Had many many real-life members who knew each other in person, people who came to meet up's and loved to participate. It's a totally different vibe now, and It won't be the same ever again, and those people won't participate here anymore unless there are some changes made on the forum. Let see how successful the next WOV meet-up is etc. If any known long-time members are looking for a new exciting home, feel free to PM me.

Sorry Mike, nothing personal.

Good luck to all.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 8th, 2021 at 4:23:10 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: OnceDear

Quote: Wizard

Here are the confirmed players thus far:

OnceDear
DJTeddyBear
Mission146
drmario
JohnnyQ
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If Mdawg plays, I hope I get to be in his team. $;o)
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I'm not playing and I will suggest other's not play.
This forum used to be about NON-Betting systems and real-life gambling experience type of community, even if you were not an AP... math, logic, and realism mattered. It's become something totally different in the last year or so. We Had many many real-life members who knew each other in person, people who came to meet up's and loved to participate. It's a totally different vibe now, and It won't be the same ever again, and those people won't participate here anymore unless there are some changes made on the forum. Let see how successful the next WOV meet-up is etc. If any known long-time members are looking for a new exciting home, feel free to PM me.

Sorry Mike, nothing personal.

Good luck to all.
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I値l play, despite Axel痴 warning. I do remember (I think?) that there were some actual 蘇ard feelings generated. I am certain that lying was allowed, even encouraged. I do like taking Mike痴 money. I still have a $2 bill from him from some bet/contest which I don稚 remember.
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November 8th, 2021 at 5:41:21 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: OnceDear

Quote: Wizard

Here are the confirmed players thus far:

OnceDear
DJTeddyBear
Mission146
drmario
JohnnyQ
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If Mdawg plays, I hope I get to be in his team. $;o)
link to original post

I'm not playing and I will suggest other's not play.
This forum used to be about NON-Betting systems and real-life gambling experience type of community, even if you were not an AP... math, logic, and realism mattered. It's become something totally different in the last year or so. We Had many many real-life members who knew each other in person, people who came to meet up's and loved to participate. It's a totally different vibe now, and It won't be the same ever again, and those people won't participate here anymore unless there are some changes made on the forum. Let see how successful the next WOV meet-up is etc. If any known long-time members are looking for a new exciting home, feel free to PM me.

Sorry Mike, nothing personal.

Good luck to all.
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I値l play, despite Axel痴 warning. I do remember (I think?) that there were some actual 蘇ard feelings generated. I am certain that lying was allowed, even encouraged. I do like taking Mike痴 money. I still have a $2 bill from him from some bet/contest which I don稚 remember.
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It's not a warning, I was using my phone to dictate and it didn't come out as I wanted. So to clarify: In the past, I encouraged and goaded many people to play, people who weren't even all that interested. What I meant to say is that won't be encouraging anyone to play.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 8th, 2021 at 6:09:16 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO


I値l play, despite Axel痴 warning. I do remember (I think?) that there were some actual 蘇ard feelings generated. I am certain that lying was allowed, even encouraged. I do like taking Mike痴 money. I still have a $2 bill from him from some bet/contest which I don稚 remember.
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Ahh, the US $2 note.... traditional currency for gambling and bribery.
At least they haven't turned them pink yet.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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November 8th, 2021 at 6:24:07 AM permalink
To say I havent been active is an understatement, but I still lurk, count me in for this game.
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November 8th, 2021 at 7:52:58 AM permalink
I'm in.
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November 8th, 2021 at 8:46:17 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I do like taking Mike痴 money.

What's NOT to LOVE about that ?
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November 8th, 2021 at 8:50:51 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf


This forum used to be about NON-Betting systems and real-life gambling experience type of community, even if you were not an AP... math, logic, and realism mattered. It's become something totally different in the last year or so.

Well the forum is what we make it.

So, post something interesting that is gambling related, a trip report, some pix, etc.
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November 8th, 2021 at 9:40:41 AM permalink
I don稚 believe it was solely a speech to text issue. Would appear to be some text to read issues too in that AxelWolf has admitted that he reads only 20% of my posts would appear that here too he misread, half read or didn稚 read this thread because what does what he posted even have to do with the topic?
AxelWolf probably scanned the page saw something about MDawg and decided to post something that to anyone who actually read the thread, is irrelevant and off topic, not to mention, in my opinion, untrue. What痴 AxelWolf trying to do anyway, promote some other site via PM?

In any case - MDawg is in! and as DarkOz said,


and as OnceDear alluded, MDawg will do whatever it takes to win, too.
I tell you it痴 wonderful to be here, man. I don稚 give a damn who wins or loses. It痴 just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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November 8th, 2021 at 12:00:43 PM permalink
Im in
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November 8th, 2021 at 3:31:07 PM permalink
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To say I havent been active is an understatement, but I still lurk, count me in for this game.
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Nice to see you again! Hope you're doing well.

Here is the list so far:

OnceDear
DJTeddyBear
Mission146
drmario
JohnnyQ
SOOPOO
MidwestAP
mwalz9
MDawg
Torghatten
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November 8th, 2021 at 3:31:15 PM permalink
In, and thank you Mike.
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November 8th, 2021 at 4:12:04 PM permalink
I値l play. But no promises to act rationally.
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November 8th, 2021 at 4:50:00 PM permalink
I will play.

I seem to remember that we never actually received payments from the Coop Game II. We agreed to let Wizard take the prize pool and work with Axel to increase the prize pool via whatever seemed to be a good opportunity. It was a free roll, so its hard to complain about not getting our payouts, but . . . let the contestants beware.
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November 9th, 2021 at 1:49:06 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

I will play.

I seem to remember that we never actually received payments from the Coop Game II.



I received my part.
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November 9th, 2021 at 2:14:09 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

I will play.

I seem to remember that we never actually received payments from the Coop Game II. We agreed to let Wizard take the prize pool and work with Axel to increase the prize pool via whatever seemed to be a good opportunity. It was a free roll, so its hard to complain about not getting our payouts, but . . . let the contestants beware.
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If you or anyone else didn't get your payments it had nothing to do with me. Your post seems to suggest I had something to do with something bad happening, when it was quite the opposite of that. I don't 100% recall all the details, but I'll take a shot at giving you the gist of what happened. Someone who recalls more or researches the details can help fill in the exact details.

Let's go back: At some point I believe someone suggested we gamble the winning on some long shot. I wasn't interested in some negative EV situation. I think I probably suggested putting it into the +EV 1/2 parlay cards. I don't know exactly how it went down but Romes was put in charge, he somehow missed one of the best 1/2 parlay weeks ever. I don't know what happen with the betting after that since I took the cash. I think it was a total loss of the funds.

Fast forward to the next round. I said I would be willing to invest the winnings into a +EV situation where I was 99% confident we would come out ahead. I used my own money to front the play and never asked for Mike or anyone to put up any money. I did win and I added profits to the bankroll. I got the extra money to those responsible for the payments.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 9th, 2021 at 10:22:48 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: gordonm888

I will play.

I seem to remember that we never actually received payments from the Coop Game II. We agreed to let Wizard take the prize pool and work with Axel to increase the prize pool via whatever seemed to be a good opportunity. It was a free roll, so its hard to complain about not getting our payouts, but . . . let the contestants beware.
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If you or anyone else didn't get your payments it had nothing to do with me. Your post seems to suggest I had something to do with something bad happening, when it was quite the opposite of that. I don't 100% recall all the details, but I'll take a shot at giving you the gist of what happened. Someone who recalls more or researches the details can help fill in the exact details.

Let's go back: At some point I believe someone suggested we gamble the winning on some long shot. I wasn't interested in some negative EV situation. I think I probably suggested putting it into the +EV 1/2 parlay cards. I don't know exactly how it went down but Romes was put in charge, he somehow missed one of the best 1/2 parlay weeks ever. I don't know what happen with the betting after that since I took the cash. I think it was a total loss of the funds.

Fast forward to the next round. I said I would be willing to invest the winnings into a +EV situation where I was 99% confident we would come out ahead. I used my own money to front the play and never asked for Mike or anyone to put up any money. I did win and I added profits to the bankroll. I got the extra money to those responsible for the payments.
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I certainly did not intend to suggest that you. Axelwolf, did anything improper or were responsible in any way for blowing the winnings of the last Co-Op game.

I'm just saying that I never received any payout and my memory was hazy but I had never heard from Mike as to what happened to our payout. And I specifically said it was not a big deal because it was a free roll. I just think it would be nice if Mike (or other involved party) would communicate with us as to what happened to the several hundreds of dollars of Co-op Game II payouts that were originally intended for the participants.
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November 10th, 2021 at 3:12:37 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: gordonm888

I will play.

I seem to remember that we never actually received payments from the Coop Game II. We agreed to let Wizard take the prize pool and work with Axel to increase the prize pool via whatever seemed to be a good opportunity. It was a free roll, so its hard to complain about not getting our payouts, but . . . let the contestants beware.
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If you or anyone else didn't get your payments it had nothing to do with me. Your post seems to suggest I had something to do with something bad happening, when it was quite the opposite of that. I don't 100% recall all the details, but I'll take a shot at giving you the gist of what happened. Someone who recalls more or researches the details can help fill in the exact details.

Let's go back: At some point I believe someone suggested we gamble the winning on some long shot. I wasn't interested in some negative EV situation. I think I probably suggested putting it into the +EV 1/2 parlay cards. I don't know exactly how it went down but Romes was put in charge, he somehow missed one of the best 1/2 parlay weeks ever. I don't know what happen with the betting after that since I took the cash. I think it was a total loss of the funds.

Fast forward to the next round. I said I would be willing to invest the winnings into a +EV situation where I was 99% confident we would come out ahead. I used my own money to front the play and never asked for Mike or anyone to put up any money. I did win and I added profits to the bankroll. I got the extra money to those responsible for the payments.
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I certainly did not intend to suggest that you. Axelwolf, did anything improper or were responsible in any way for blowing the winnings of the last Co-Op game.

I'm just saying that I never received any payout and my memory was hazy but I had never heard from Mike as to what happened to our payout. And I specifically said it was not a big deal because it was a free roll. I just think it would be nice if Mike (or other involved party) would communicate with us as to what happened to the several hundreds of dollars of Co-op Game II payouts that were originally intended for the participants.
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I could be wrong but I thought that it went to pay the bill of the WoV spring fling meetup at Triple 7 at Main Street Station. I知 too lazy to look back and find out but that痴 my memory.

P.S my memory sucks
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December 17th, 2021 at 8:33:30 PM permalink
Did I miss a memo? Did this game get started in a different thread? Or is it simply just forgotten somehow?
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December 17th, 2021 at 9:15:12 PM permalink
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Did I miss a memo? Did this game get started in a different thread? Or is it simply just forgotten somehow?
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There didn't seem to be sufficient interest.
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