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September 22nd, 2018 at 8:53:48 AM permalink

To all who thanked me -- thank you back and you're welcome!

Thanks OD for all the accounting, which I know is a lot of work and not very much fun.

Thank you Babs for volunteering to take care of disbursements, which is also a tedious task.

Finally, thank you all who played, especially those who actively participated and made it fun!

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September 22nd, 2018 at 5:25:33 PM permalink

Wagers are in for this Sunday's games (NFL Week #3):

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September 23rd, 2018 at 2:19:26 PM permalink

Just a follow up to say that it looks like WMW�s three team teaser is going to hit (if Rams can stay ahead). Coulda rolled the big pool up with that hit at +130 plus my $150 rolled in. Would have been fun, but I get why no one wanted to do it.

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September 23rd, 2018 at 4:50:21 PM permalink

Unfortunately, no joy this Sunday for the 3cp pool.

$176.56 -$80 = $96.56 remaining.

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September 23rd, 2018 at 5:15:17 PM permalink

Quote: Keeneone
Thanks for the kind words, that ticket will be missed. Maybe the next one will make us jump for joy?

You are welcome.

Wow, what a table! Thanks for all the work you have done on this stuff.

I am flexible on the payout method, so no worries. We are up to 5 members now.

Thanks for the freeroll. Here it is and we will work out the $ at the end.

shoot me your paypal address

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September 23rd, 2018 at 5:17:41 PM permalink

Quote: troopscott

shoot me your paypal address

No worries. Like I mentioned earlier, we will settle up at the completion of this adventure.

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September 25th, 2018 at 9:38:35 AM permalink

Quote: Keeneone
Wagers are in for this Sunday's games (NFL Week #3):

I just saw you made some bets Sunday. I think you need to slow down and make sure everyone is on board with the bets. Several things have been mentioned including the McGregor fight, and I dont anyone saying yes let's bet these picks just let's see who wants to parlay. Some people will say they did not approve. I dont even see where the money was distributed yet.

I have $25 on deposit with BBB who I will direct to add to this pool to help cover part of the bets that were made and I owe you $10 for the free roll bet I had you make on top of that.

Let's start a new thread so we are all on the same page for those involved in the 2nd round / 3rd round

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September 27th, 2018 at 7:40:30 PM permalink

Anyone have anything they think is betable this weekend

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September 28th, 2018 at 12:17:31 AM permalink

Quote: troopscott
Anyone have anything they think is betable this weekend

I'll let y'all know after I put in my bets.*

:)

Maybe*

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September 28th, 2018 at 5:08:52 AM permalink

Just as an update, I'm prepared to transfer the Big Pool money to BBB at any time. She said there is an Oct 1 deadline to decide to cash out or attempt to parlay the money again.

I'm volunteering to bet the money on some simple NFL bets. I do not claim these bets will be positive EV. My strategy will be to bet on underdogs where the line is a little off in our favor. The purpose of this will be to have some more fun with it and try to double the bankroll, or go bust trying.

"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)

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September 28th, 2018 at 5:26:43 AM permalink

Quote: Wizard
Just as an update, I'm prepared to transfer the Big Pool money to BBB at any time. She said there is an Oct 1 deadline to decide to cash out or attempt to parlay the money again.

I'm volunteering to bet the money on some simple NFL bets. I do not claim these bets will be positive EV. My strategy will be to bet on underdogs where the line is a little off in our favor. The purpose of this will be to have some more fun with it and try to double the bankroll, or go bust trying.

Thanks again for the kind offer. I know I'm in no position to put stipulations on your strategy, and may even be foolish to think that's wise, but if that strategy included spread movement around 3 and 7 I'd be interested in letting my share ride... I'm thinking about using pushes to kick in a little EV.

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September 28th, 2018 at 5:59:55 AM permalink

I�m not sure if I�ve posted this yet but I�d like to cash out. I�ll arrange with Babs on payment, thank you again Mike for running this game, it was an amusing read most days.

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September 28th, 2018 at 8:24:10 AM permalink

I�ve said from the beginning that I would leave my funds in a parlay attempt. I appreciate what Axel has done to help us and I�m willing to keep my funds in the pool for further play. I would rather allow Wizard to place it on nfl picks. I�m not a fan of betting it on mma. If that�s what the majority want to do I�ll go along with it. Again my preference is to let Wizard make some nfl picks.

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September 28th, 2018 at 10:11:57 AM permalink

I'm leaving my money in to let the Wizard give some NFL picks a shot. I agree it will be fun to see as we go, and I like the double or broke win cap. I have faith in him doing the picking, certainly better than mine, and I encourage others to go with it.

I'm still going to compile a list, hopefully today, and post as verification of who I'm reimbursing (has said they want to cash out), from.what has been posted so far. Please do say what you want if you haven't already - cash out, keep it pooled, or something else, before Monday.

I'll be using ODs list and amounts, so be sure to verify what's listed on your row.

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September 28th, 2018 at 10:43:56 AM permalink

Quote: prozema
Thanks again for the kind offer. I know I'm in no position to put stipulations on your strategy, and may even be foolish to think that's wise, but if that strategy included spread movement around 3 and 7 I'd be interested in letting my share ride... I'm thinking about using pushes to kick in a little EV.

If anyone knows the value of getting a half point off the 3 or 7, it's me. I plan to put these bets in the "low juice" lounge at 5dimes. I'll compare their lines to the going market and look for value wherever I can find it.

I want to emphasize that these will pretty much be coin flip bets and nobody should get mad if I bust out. Likewise, if I win, I will give the credit to what most people would call "good luck," but what I would say is mathematical variance going our way (there needs to be a good term for this).

"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)

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September 28th, 2018 at 10:50:29 AM permalink

Quote: Wizard
If anyone knows the value of getting a half point off the 3 or 7, it's me. I plan to put these bets in the "low juice" lounge at 5dimes. I'll compare their lines to the going market and look for value wherever I can find it.

I want to emphasize that these will pretty much be coin flip bets and nobody should get mad if I bust out. Likewise, if I win, I will give the credit to what most people would call "good luck," but what I would say is mathematical variance going our way (there needs to be a good term for this).

In poker the �technical� term is �run good�, which I�ve grown rather fond of.

The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.

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September 28th, 2018 at 10:54:06 AM permalink

Wizard that sounds great to me. Put my share in Wizards care!

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September 28th, 2018 at 11:17:29 AM permalink

Put my share in the Wizard's pool for NFL bets.

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September 28th, 2018 at 11:19:30 AM permalink

If people are willing, I would buy in for an equal share of the Wiz football picks and as compensation for the trouble I would pay an equal share for the Wiz so he�s equally invested with us.

The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.

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September 28th, 2018 at 11:26:40 AM permalink

Based on the recent Wiz offer I think it best to cancel the 3cp pool group. All wagers already made will be considered a free roll from me (all losers btw). No money is owed to me. Members who joined the 3ccp group can direct Wiz/BBB what they want done with their winnings from the Coop game.

I will not be participating in the Wiz's generous offer and will withdraw my Coop share when available.

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September 28th, 2018 at 11:40:51 AM permalink

Quote: Keeneone
Based on the recent Wiz offer I think it best to cancel the 3cp pool group. All wagers already made will be considered a free roll from me (all losers btw). No money is owed to me. Members who joined the 3ccp group can direct Wiz/BBB what they want done with their winnings from the Coop game.

I will not be participating in the Wiz's generous offer and will withdraw my Coop share when available.

That is a very generous of you, Keeneone! Many thanks!

Babs -- Please leave my share in for Wiz to play with.

Wizard -- Thanks for your NFL wager offer! Best of luck* to us all!

To paraphrase (I believe) Penn Jillette: Luck is just variance, taken personally.

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September 28th, 2018 at 12:37:50 PM permalink

BBB, Wiz and all others:

Please put my money with the Wiz and his NFL picks... I'll be rooting for the best for all of us.

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September 28th, 2018 at 12:47:22 PM permalink

Quote: Wizard
If anyone knows the value of getting a half point off the 3 or 7, it's me. I plan to put these bets in the "low juice" lounge at 5dimes. I'll compare their lines to the going market and look for value wherever I can find it.

I want to emphasize that these will pretty much be coin flip bets and nobody should get mad if I bust out. Likewise, if I win, I will give the credit to what most people would call "good luck," but what I would say is mathematical variance going our way (there needs to be a good term for this).

I like the way you think sir. I'll let it ride under your best judgement.

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September 28th, 2018 at 5:41:22 PM permalink

Quote: Keeneone
Based on the recent Wiz offer I think it best to cancel the 3cp pool group. All wagers already made will be considered a free roll from me (all losers btw). No money is owed to me. Members who joined the 3ccp group can direct Wiz/BBB what they want done with their winnings from the Coop game.

I will not be participating in the Wiz's generous offer and will withdraw my Coop share when available.

Thanks for starting the pool, Keeneone. I don't know if the pool would be continuing now if you hadn't gotten the ball rolling.

I enjoyed meeting you in May, and so despite you posting this, I'd like you to reconsider and continue with us. I will return your money to you if that's your final answer but please reconsider.

If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.

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September 30th, 2018 at 6:29:49 PM permalink

I am in for whatever pool no matter what it is. No issue with wiz maing the picks but s ther any chance we can see what is bet before the games go off so we can follow?

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October 31st, 2018 at 8:09:11 PM permalink

Not in a rush to end this just curious how things are progressing

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November 1st, 2018 at 12:04:49 AM permalink

Quote: Wizard
...if I win, I will give the credit to what most people would call "good luck," but what I would say is mathematical variance going our way (there needs to be a good term for this).

I suggest "V.A.R.T."; Variance Across the Right Tail

Used in a sentence, "It was supposed to be 4 coin flips, but the guy next to me caught a big VART and hit them all"

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November 1st, 2018 at 12:05:47 AM permalink

Also curious what's going on here. I think I posted while in europe that I was down for parlaying whatever and letting whomever bet on whatever... so where do we stand? =P Am I a millionaire yet?

Playing it correctly means you've already won.

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November 1st, 2018 at 2:19:21 AM permalink

Quote: Romes
Also curious what's going on here. I think I posted while in europe that I was down for parlaying whatever and letting whomever bet on whatever... so where do we stand? =P Am I a millionaire yet?

Rumor has it we almost have enough to buy slots o fun or el cortez

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November 1st, 2018 at 10:30:29 AM permalink

I forgot what was going on with this. The last thing I did was send BBB some money, which I believe was to cash out the following people:

Axelwolf
Prozema
OneNickelMiracle
PokerGrinder
GamerFreak
JohnnyQ
Jmarch79
UKMark
Torghatten

Hopefully Barb can remind me who is still in this and for how much.

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November 1st, 2018 at 11:01:58 AM permalink

IIRC I said I would get mine next time BBB was in Vegas. How much was it again?

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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November 4th, 2018 at 1:21:14 PM permalink

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IIRC I said I would get mine next time BBB was in Vegas. How much was it again?

Seems like we were somewhere around 35 bucks each but I am too lazy to search and look right now.

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November 4th, 2018 at 4:45:41 PM permalink

Ok, here is the PM from me to Mike regarding those continuing with the game, from Oct. 3. Mike has asked me to post it. To the best of my knowledge, this is still correct and complete.

Mike says he will start looking for some worthwhile bets next week.

****

Each of these people want to continue, and should have a stake of $35.31 each from the big pool and Axels money. 12 of us, so a pool of $423.72. Good variance!

troopscott
Joeman
PlayYourCardsRight
Face
Mikey75
Beachbumbabs
Gordonm888
Romes
Nathan
Keeneone
Miplet
SOOPOO

12 of us. I don't know what to do with Jufo81s money. He was not part of Axels follow-on, and no one has heard from him.

****

Reserved to edit once I've pulled up the info on who has been paid, and whose disbursement I'm still holding.

List of those for whom I accepted money from Mike , most are reimbursed:

Axelwolf -unpaid
Prozema - PayPal
OneNickelMiracle - ??
PokerGrinder - Amazon
GamerFreak - Paypal
JohnnyQ - Amazon
Jmarch79 - Amazon
UKMark - Unpaid
Torghatten - PayPal

These are the people I will be cashing out.
At $35.31 x 8, and ONM at $31.41
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I'm going to have to look back in this thread, where I was tracking payments, but I think I've paid all except Axel and UKMark. I'll verify.

Edit: think that list got kept in the OTHER (sigh) co-op game thread.

Ok. Updated above to show who's gotten paid. I'll double-check OMN. Thought I had paid him but not sure. List above current to 11/4/18

Last edited by: beachbumbabs on Nov 4, 2018

If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.

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November 4th, 2018 at 4:51:36 PM permalink

Good luck guys. Hope you make a bundle!

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November 4th, 2018 at 6:22:11 PM permalink

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/announcements/31655-coop-game-money/2/#post676986

Ok, from the above thread.

I still owe Axel and UKMark each $35.31, and ONM whatever that amount was... $31.xx (above).

If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.

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November 4th, 2018 at 7:13:08 PM permalink

Quote: beachbumbabs
12 of us, so a pool of $423.72.

Hmm...

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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November 4th, 2018 at 7:19:50 PM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf
Hmm...

Jusss....? Dju have an ideaahhh?

If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.

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November 5th, 2018 at 9:00:13 AM permalink

Quote: beachbumbabs
Ok, here is the PM from me to Mike regarding those continuing with the game, from Oct. 3. Mike has asked me to post it. To the best of my knowledge, this is still correct and complete.

Mike says he will start looking for some worthwhile bets next week.

****

Each of these people want to continue, and should have a stake of $35.31 each from the big pool and Axels money. 12 of us, so a pool of $423.72. Good variance!

troopscott
Joeman
PlayYourCardsRight
Face
Mikey75
Beachbumbabs
Gordonm888
Romes
Nathan
Keeneone
Miplet
SOOPOO

I am pretty sure I ceded my share to you, BBB. As a thank you for your kindness to my two boys at the eclipse get together. I will still follow along and root for you guys. Please, Mike, no matter what the line is....don't take the Bills!

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December 4th, 2018 at 2:52:47 PM permalink

Sorry, I have not been around much lately, but what is up with this thingy?

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December 4th, 2018 at 4:20:07 PM permalink

Quote: Keeneone
Sorry, I have not been around much lately, but what is up with this thingy?

We own the el Cortez

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December 4th, 2018 at 4:53:30 PM permalink

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We own the el Cortez

That's hilarious! Maybe because it is a non-zero possibility.

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December 4th, 2018 at 6:50:33 PM permalink

Quote: Ayecarumba
That's hilarious! Maybe because it is a non-zero possibility.

Lol

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December 4th, 2018 at 9:09:46 PM permalink

Put it all on the Bulls ML, you won't no balls

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December 5th, 2018 at 5:33:30 PM permalink

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Put it all on the Bulls ML, you won't no balls

Should have put it on Fury fight to tie. A friend of mine convinced me to put 500 on it at 38 to 1. He had 5k on it.

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December 5th, 2018 at 6:17:05 PM permalink

I have not been paid. Do you want to pay me, then just have me pay you later when I lose the bet DJ blows WOV picks contest? If we wait, it can be one step, but if we don't wait, it's two steps. I'd rather just wait, but I don't care either way.

I am a robot.

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December 5th, 2018 at 10:19:58 PM permalink

Quote: onenickelmiracle
I have not been paid. Do you want to pay me, then just have me pay you later when I lose the bet DJ blows WOV picks contest? If we wait, it can be one step, but if we don't wait, it's two steps. I'd rather just wait, but I don't care either way.

I listed you as a person to be paid like, 4 times, in the last 2 months. You never said whether you wanted PayPal or Amazon gift card, or sent me a PM with an Email address I could get money to you. Do that, and you'll get paid.

If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.

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December 6th, 2018 at 12:33:57 AM permalink

So for a catch up, what's our next big play to parlay our ~$35 in funds?

I'll be in town around the super bowl, and I'm sure myself and others wouldn't mind running bets for the group to try to parlay some (possibly) Wizard Approved bets?

Playing it correctly means you've already won.

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