Cooperation Game Big Pool Money Thread
I like AW's suggestion of using math to determine if a bet is +EV.
I wouldn't be opposed to letting my share ride, but I'd rather do it on a bet that will be resolved in a few days, not 7 months.Quote: WizardI can confirm Axel gave me the winnings. I would prefer to not have to make payment arrangements to two dozen different people. Anyone interested in letting your share ride on ZenKing's "lock of the century #2"? The current line at 5dimes is Bulls over 29.5 season wins at -130? I'll personally book the other side. Who is up for letting it ride?
I know its a PITA to deal with 25 separate people who want to do 25 separate things with their winnings. So, I'll happily go along with whatever is easiest/ the majority. I really appreciate the time and effort Wizard and Axel have put forth to basically give me free money.
I'm not requesting this, but personally, I would like to see my winnings put on a parlay or other such bet that will either lose or win big enough to make it worthwhile for me to pick it up personally. But, like I said, I'm down for whatever is easiest for those having to do the work.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI want out. An Amazon gift card is fine.
I'm not down with a gambling until I lose strategy.
How do we balance the wizards request to not deal with a dozen different payment requests? Do we need to name an individual to receive all money and distribute or reinvest?
Quote: prozemaI'm not down with a gambling until I lose strategy.
How do we balance the wizards request to not deal with a dozen different payment requests? Do we need to name an individual to receive all money and distribute or reinvest?
I agree with the 7 month thing and gambling until you lose which is why I suggested 2-3 bets.
That being said I do remember the wizard saying he would be willing to make bets based on his picks for the big pool which I would be game for as well.
Quote: gordonm888Could someone please repeat: What is the notification action we are requested to do by Sept 19?
Dunno... I might have missed a post somewhere.
Quote: gordonm888Could someone please repeat: What is the notification action we are requested to do by Sept 19?
I don't know what the 19th was about and don't see a post with a quick check.
There was a request thar everyone declare in or out by Sept 21 with unJon offering to sweeten the pot by $150 on a particular bet, about 3 pages back. Perhaps that's it?
Or perhaps I'm just not seeing whatever was asked on the 19th.
Edit: my portion I mean obviously.
Ya, but what about his master craps hit and run system, that's golden.Quote: PokerGrinderI’m very out on betting WMW’s teasers. If that’s where we are at then I’m out. I would be interested in doing something that is actually +EV otherwise I would like the money to go to the charitable cause I had in mind.
Edit: my portion I mean obviously.
Quote: AxelWolfFinal results are +$467.50 That includes the $5 I won from Mike during the game that I said I would add to the pool.
Special thanks to Keeneone, prozema and Rigondeaux.
I will get the money to Mike at our convenience and you all can figure out what you want to do next.
Yes, that is understandable. Anyway, please forgive me if in all the "excitement" that I lost track of what the total fund is / typical equity share. 23 members are in it, I think. Can someone clarify ?Quote: WizardI can confirm Axel gave me the winnings. I would prefer to not have to make payment arrangements to two dozen different people.
I'm not fond of a -EV round #2.
But I wouldn't mind a random drawing to up the prize to $ 50 or $ 75 or dare I say it $ 100 for however many members the funds can cover. This would reduce the number of pay-outs that have to be made. Somewhere earlier someone mentioned a Winner Take All. This is like that, except more winners and less $ for each of those winners.
BUT the drawback I see here is getting everyone to agree to anything.
Maybe just bite the bullet and make the distributions via the easiest system, whatever that is. The game was set-up with this kind of eventuality.
Quote: AxelWolfYa, but what about his master craps hit and run system, that's golden.
I was going to say the same thing, but I thought it was rude, even though the suggestion to keep gambling in lieu of a bunch of small payments was expecting we would lose. Wizard is trying to use the marty on us.Quote: prozemaI'm not down with a gambling until I lose strategy.
How do we balance the wizards request to not deal with a dozen different payment requests? Do we need to name an individual to receive all money and distribute or reinvest?
I apologise if the question was rude.
Here is another bad idea... If we get our payout in pesos, it will look like we won more. :-)
I will give people to the end of September to declare here, either they're done or they want their pool money to remain in a pool. If those that are done want me to, I will allow the Wizard to send me that lump sum, and I will distribute it on October 1, not before.
This is just an offer to help if that seems the best option for both Wizard and the players. You're welcome to pursue any other avenues.
Quote: beachbumbabsI'm going to offer a 1 time option. The issue I have is, I just did this for the NFL picks, and I'm reluctant to churn my accounts, but I've had no pushback from PayPal or Amazon yet, so here it is.
I will give people to the end of September to declare here, either they're done or they want their pool money to remain in a pool. If those that are done want me to, I will allow the Wizard to send me that lump sum, and I will distribute it on October 1, not before.
This is just an offer to help if that seems the best option for both Wizard and the players. You're welcome to pursue any other avenues.
I would like out. I perfer Paypal.
BBB. Thanks for doing this for us. If you receive any heat I'm happy to offer my Paypal and Amazon account as an alternate option. Obviously I don't have the tenure or mod status, so my offer is clearly not as good as yours.
Quote: WizardI can confirm Axel gave me the winnings. I would prefer to not have to make payment arrangements to two dozen different people. Anyone interested in letting your share ride on ZenKing's "lock of the century #2"? The current line at 5dimes is Bulls over 29.5 season wins at -130? I'll personally book the other side. Who is up for letting it ride?
Are there other wagers the Wizard and the Big Pool can agree on that will be resolved sooner? How about the World Series or Superbowl?
I would like out. I prefer PayPal, but Amazon cards will work for me.
For those of you who wish to keep going, it sounds like what you want is a betting club. Don't bother trying to get agreement from the cooperation game big poolers, just cash out and form your own group. That will get all of the non-interested parties out of the loop, and relieve Wizard from wrangling your pool of funds.
Quote: beachbumbabsI will give people to the end of September to declare here, either they're done or they want their pool money to remain in a pool. If those that are done want me to, I will allow the Wizard to send me that lump sum, and I will distribute it on October 1, not before.
Thanks Barbara. I sure would accept this kind offer. It is always busy for me close to G2E and would love to delegate the payment distribution off.
Down for a wagering club or whatever it was called a couple posts back
I would agree.Quote: troopscottI will leave my funds in. $30 bucks or whatever it is, is not even a tank of gas.
I would be down as well, but I think this would require someone locally to handle the transactions. Not to mention agreement on what to bet on.Quote:Down for a wagering club or whatever it was called a couple posts back
Quote: JoemanI would agree.
I would be down as well, but I think this would require someone locally to handle the transactions. Not to mention agreement on what to bet on.
I would refer tonangroup decision or wizard making selections
Quote: GWAEI am not in the pool so really it is none of my business. However, I think it is kinda rude to get out at this point. Axel made a generous offer to get the pot upped in value. I thought the entire original plan was to parlay the winnings into something good. I think that is also why axel and the people who helped him spent time doing it. Owell I digress.
I assisted, and I don't think it's rude to withdraw now.
I don't know, We started with an easy double to going to bet on stuff I don't understand. For that reason, I'm out. I shark tanked you.Quote: GWAEI am not in the pool so really it is none of my business. However, I think it is kinda rude to get out at this point. Axel made a generous offer to get the pot upped in value. I thought the entire original plan was to parlay the winnings into something good. I think that is also why axel and the people who helped him spent time doing it. Owell I digress.
I'm with you in that my plan was to stay in the group and try to parlay it into something big. But I don't think it's rude if people want to walk with their winnings now. The original agreement in the Co-op game was to pool our winnings, not necessarily try to parlay it.Quote: GWAEI am not in the pool so really it is none of my business. However, I think it is kinda rude to get out at this point. Axel made a generous offer to get the pot upped in value. I thought the entire original plan was to parlay the winnings into something good. I think that is also why axel and the people who helped him spent time doing it. Owell I digress.
In fact, I think it is a win-win. I'm not a sports bettor, but I would imagine that it's easier to get a multi-team parlay down with less money than with more.
For those interested in staying in the pool and trying to parlay, I think the biggest hurdles are deciding what to bet on, and getting someone to actually do it. Last time, we had the help of Wizard's 1/2 point NFL parlay picks to get the pool down on a +EV parlay. Given the WOV Picks Game results thus far, maybe we should bet a 5-team parlay of JohnZimbo's picks for Week 3! ;)
More and more, I appreciate Romes for what he helped organize for the last co-op game.
Quote: JoemanI'm with you in that my plan was to stay in the group and try to parlay it into something big. But I don't think it's rude if people want to walk with their winnings now. The original agreement in the Co-op game was to pool our winnings, not necessarily try to parlay it.
In fact, I think it is a win-win. I'm not a sports bettor, but I would imagine that it's easier to get a multi-team parlay down with less money than with more.
For those interested in staying in the pool and trying to parlay, I think the biggest hurdles are deciding what to bet on, and getting someone to actually do it. Last time, we had the help of Wizard's 1/2 point NFL parlay picks to get the pool down on a +EV parlay. Given the WOV Picks Game results thus far, maybe we should bet a 5-team parlay of JohnZimbo's picks for Week 3! ;)
More and more, I appreciate Romes for what he helped organize for the last co-op game.
Hey why not my super scientific picks?
Quote: GWAEI am not in the pool so really it is none of my business. However, I think it is kinda rude to get out at this point. Axel made a generous offer to get the pot upped in value. I thought the entire original plan was to parlay the winnings into something good. I think that is also why axel and the people who helped him spent time doing it. Owell I digress.
I disagree. As far as I knew, Axel’s +EV play was what we decided to do with the pool.
The reason given for wanting to continue with another bet was the administrative burden of distributing funds. What other option is there? If we won the next play, we’d have the same amount of people to distribute funds to. The only alternative is to gamble until we lose, which I’d rather not be a part of.
I appreciate everything Axel, Wiz, BBB, and others have done. But I don’t think wanting to get out before going bust is rude.
THANKS again !
I would need to know who wants in and then make arrangements at some point to collect players $$ from the Wiz. I would not want to run it for too much longer, maybe a few more weeks until payout or demise.
The CCCP (Collaboration Continuation Club Parlay). Please add your name to the list if you want to join:
Keeneone
Thanks for stepping up, Keeneone. That sounds like a plan, comrade!Quote: KeeneoneI am willing to press on if a few members want to continue. Maybe a couple 1/2 point parlay cards and a bet against McGregor in his MMA fight 10/6. We could also wait for this guy https://www.equibase.com/profiles/Results.cfm?type=Horse&refno=9910699®istry=T&rbt=TB to return (could be soon) to the track and use "math" to win on the ponies. :)
I would need to know who wants in and then make arrangements at some point to collect players $$ from the Wiz. I would not want to run it for too much longer, maybe a few more weeks until payout or demise.
The CCCP (Collaboration Continuation Club Parlay). Please add your name to the list if you want to join:
Keeneone
Joeman
Quote: KeeneoneI am willing to press on if a few members want to continue. Maybe a couple 1/2 point parlay cards and a bet against McGregor in his MMA fight 10/6. We could also wait for this guy https://www.equibase.com/profiles/Results.cfm?type=Horse&refno=9910699®istry=T&rbt=TB to return (could be soon) to the track and use "math" to win on the ponies. :)
I would need to know who wants in and then make arrangements at some point to collect players $$ from the Wiz. I would not want to run it for too much longer, maybe a few more weeks until payout or demise.
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Troopscott
McGregor will get killed
It is my pleasure and thanks for joining.Quote: JoemanThanks for stepping up, Keeneone. That sounds like a plan, comrade!
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Quote: troopscottMcGregor will get killed
I am not much of a combat sports (MMA/boxing etc) follower, but I will take your word for it. I can start looking around for lines on the fight.
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And to get things started fast I have made a 1/2 point parlay wager (freeroll from Keeneone). If it connects, I will add the $ to the 3CP pool.
Keeneone
Joeman
troopscott
PlayYourCardsRight
4 members so far. Unfortunately, the free-roll parlay is dead.Quote: PlayYourCardsRightThe CCCP (Collaboration Continuation Club Parlay). Please add your name to the list if you want to join:
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Not sure if an official $ amount has been posted, but does anyone know the actual $ amount each of us have with the Wiz?
Here is the 1/2 point NFL card for this Sunday. Looks to have potential and I can put in a play on Saturday.
Quote: Keeneone
RIP
Quote: KeeneoneIt is my pleasure and thanks for joining.
I am not much of a combat sports (MMA/boxing etc) follower, but I will take your word for it. I can start looking around for lines on the fight.
The CCCP (Collaboration Continuation Club Parlay). Please add your name to the list if you want to join:
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Joeman
troopscott
And to get things started fast I have made a 1/2 point parlay wager (freeroll from Keeneone). If it connects, I will add the $ to the 3CP pool.
If you can swing by and make another bet I will PayPal over $10 today
NC +4
Marshall+6
Wake +8
Ul monroe +6
Saints +3
Quote: Keeneone4 members so far. Unfortunately, the free-roll parlay is dead.
Not sure if an official $ amount has been posted, but does anyone know the actual $ amount each of us have with the Wiz?
I have a spreadsheet and will upload it after a bit of checking later today.
Thanks, Keeneone. I appreciate the try!Quote: Keeneone4 members so far. Unfortunately, the free-roll parlay is dead.
| Name | Initial Take | Original Instruction | Profit Share of Axelwolf's reinvestment | Total Due | To Go to |
| Soopoo | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | To Be Gifted to Babs |
| Playyourcardsright | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Playyourcardsright |
| Romes | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 10.3114480206095 | Romes ( After cancelling his pledge ) |
| OnceDear | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | ThreeSquare ( see also F36,F38 ) |
| Keeneone | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Keeneone |
| GamerFreak | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | GamerFreak |
| PokerGrinder | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | PokerGrinder |
| Prozema | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Prozema |
| Nathan | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Nathan |
| OneNickelMiracle | 12.2690476190476 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 19.1365429668811 | 31.4055905859287 | OneNickelMiracle |
| GWAE | 9.89523765079365 | Direct to RS Reinvestment fund | 9.89523765079365 | Direct to RS Reinvestment fund * | |
| Ayecarumba | 20.2714279047619 | Direct to BeachBumBabs | 20.2714279047619 | Direct to BeachBumBabs on Behalf AyeCarumba | |
| JohnnyQ | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | JohnnyQ |
| RS | 9.89523765079365 | Direct to RS Reinvestment fund | 9.89523765079365 | Direct to RS Reinvestment fund * | |
| Dalex64 | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Dalex64 |
| UK MARK | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | UK MARK |
| Face | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Face |
| Joeman | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Joeman |
| DJTeddyBear | 9.86666666666667 | Hold For DJTeddybear Till Face To Face | 9.86666666666667 | Hold For DJTeddybear Till Face To Face | |
| SM777 | 9.68571361904762 | Paypal to ....@yahoo.com | 9.68571361904762 | Already settled by paypal? | |
| MidwestAP | 9.65238095238095 | Pending Reply | 9.65238095238095 | MidwestAP | |
| Miplet | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Miplet |
| Gordonm888 | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Gordonm888 |
| Mission146 | 0 | Already directed to AyeCarumba | 0 | Already directed to AyeCarumba | |
| DJATC | 8.68571361904762 | Hold for DJATC till Face To Face settlement | 8.68571361904762 | Hold for DJATC till Face To Face settlement | |
| Axelwolf | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Axelwolf |
| Troopscott | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Troopscott |
| BeachBumBabs | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | BeachBumBabs |
| Torghatten | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Torghatten |
| Jmarch79 | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Jmarch79 |
| Mikey75 | 13.7949272463768 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 21.5165207742327 | 35.3114480206095 | Mikey75 |
| MaxPen | 9.89523765079365 | Direct to RS Reinvestment fund | 9.89523765079365 | Direct to RS Reinvestment fund * | |
| Jufo81 | 13.7949272463768 | Pending Reply | 0 | 13.7949272463768 | Jufo81 |
| Billryan | 1.4 | Direct to Three Square | 1.4 | ThreeSquare | |
| Boz | 0.4 | Pending Reply | 0.4 | Boz | |
| HeyMrDJ | 0.4 | Direct to Three Square | 0.4 | ThreeSquare | |
| SodaWater | 0.4 | Pending Reply | 0.4 | SodaWater | |
| Pledge from Romes | 25 | Direct to Axelwolf's Reinvestment fund | 25 | ||
| Totals | 444.99999 | 0 | 912.49999 |
Calcs done as floating point. Final payouts rounded to nearest cent.
Please check your own standing in the table and PM me if you see an error.
Quote: PlayYourCardsRightThe CCCP (Collaboration Continuation Club Parlay). Please add your name to the list if you want to join:
Keeneone
Joeman
troopscott
PlayYourCardsRight
Face
Contingent on your payment preferences. I don't and won't deal with Amazon, so if your plan includes it, just strike me back out. Otherwise, I'm sending my $3X. Looking for "problem solving" money, so no gripes shooting for the moon
BBB, I'd like to drop out now if that is okay. Paypal or Amazon, whichever is easier works for me.
Thank you again!
Thanks for the kind words, that ticket will be missed. Maybe the next one will make us jump for joy?Quote: RSRIP
You are welcome.Quote: JoemanThanks, Keeneone. I appreciate the try!
Wow, what a table! Thanks for all the work you have done on this stuff.Quote: OnceDear
Calcs done as floating point. Final payouts rounded to nearest cent.
Please check your own standing in the table and PM me if you see an error.
Quote: FaceYou had me at CCCP.
Contingent on your payment preferences. I don't and won't deal with Amazon, so if your plan includes it, just strike me back out. Otherwise, I'm sending my $3X. Looking for "problem solving" money, so no gripes shooting for the moon
I am flexible on the payout method, so no worries. We are up to 5 members now.
Thanks for the freeroll. Here it is and we will work out the $ at the end.Quote: troopscott
If you can swing by and make another bet I will PayPal over $10 today
NC +4
Marshall+6
Wake +8
Ul monroe +6
Saints +3
