Cooperation Game II
Poll
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33 members have voted
We can share what you got of yours,
Cause we done shared all of mine.
Robert Hunter.
Quote: billryanWe can share the women, we can share the wine
We can share what you got of yours,
Cause we done shared all of mine.
Robert Hunter.
#Bolshevik
First, I apologize for listing Midwest AP twice. Clerical error. I just randomized, and he shall be on team 2.
Second, let me clarify some rules.
Going forward, advance votes will not be allowed. If you’re a team captain and can’t vote, appoint someone else. If you don’t hear from a team member, make a decision without him.
You may change your vote. I’ll accept the last one submitted. I would prefer you not invoke this rule.
Again, lying is allowed, except by me.
Let the game resume.
I was born and raised there, and I love it. Very beautiful area. My Mother still lives there right by Sehome Hill.Quote: WizardGreetings from Bellingham WA.
At least 7 of my childhood friends were born there and never left.
Quote: Wizard
Again, lying is allowed, except by me.
Let the game resume.
Just to be clear, this is the RULE. Part of the game. OD might say he will pay up but HE DOES NOT HAVE TO. People might say they will share BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO. People might have said they will pool at the end BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO.
I did not lie in the last game, the record will show. I will not lie in this game. Others did. I can’t remember who though...
Quote: WizardAgain, lying is allowed, except by me.
What if THAT is a lie? How are we supposed to know if you're telling the truth about whether or not you can lie? Hmm...the rabbit hole goes deep with this conspiracy.
I think that lying about the way you voted or about how you intend to vote is perfectly acceptable. Making a commitment to share what you win and then not doing so is a bang out of order and constitutes the unforgivable offence of welching.Quote: SOOPOOJust to be clear, this is the RULE. Part of the game. OD might say he will pay up but HE DOES NOT HAVE TO. People might say they will share BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO. People might have said they will pool at the end BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO.
I did not lie in the last game, the record will show. I will not lie in this game. Others did. I can’t remember who though...
OD promising a bribe and instructing mods to nuke him if he welches on that is a risky strategy :o) If I didn't deliver the funds to Mike, then he would simply deduct them from my moderator wages anyway. Then he'd fire me.
Anyone who has not made a commitment to share but who expects to receive a share when the game is over will be at the adjudicator's mercy.
If you haven't already commited to share, then please make your intention clear. We don't want a massive squabble at the end.
Personally, I feel that after the announcements of the final set of results, that pooling should be done on the basis of commitments already given and we should not give Mike an administrative headache. Moving these nickles and dimes about could just get dissipated in paypal fees.
We DO KNOW that Mike will play fair. He'll explain or resolve any errors fairly and he will deliver what he says he'll deliver.
| Member | Winnings | Total | Sharing? |
|---|---|---|---|
| Face | 40c+40c+$1.00 | $1.80 | ??? |
| OneNickelMiracle | 50c+0+$1.25 | $1.75 | ??? |
| Dalex64 | 40c+40c+0 | $0.80 | ??? |
| DJTeddyBear | 40c+40c+0 | $0.80 | ??? |
| GWAE | 40c+40c+0 | $0.80 | ??? |
| JohnnyQ | 0+50c+0 | $0.50 | ??? |
| SM777 | 0+50c+0 | $0.50 | ??? |
| MaxPen | 0+50c+0 | $0.50 | ??? |
| MidwestAP | 40c+0+0 | $0.40 | ??? |
| DJATC | 0+0+0 | $0.00 | ??? |
| Billryan | 40c+0+0 | $0.40 | ??? |
| Totals | £30.00 | $30.00 | |
| Potentially | £40.00 | $40.00 |
Guys and Gals, please confirm your intention to share or not share.
If you don't want it public knowledge, tell somebody by PM and authorise them to reveal that PM at the end of the game.
We will all appreciate your clarification come the day of reckoning.
Quote: OnceDearI think that lying about the way you voted or about how you intend to vote is perfectly acceptable. Making a commitment to share what you win and then not doing so is a bang out of order and constitutes the unforgivable offence of welching.
OD promising a bribe and instructing mods to nuke him if he welches on that is a risky strategy :o) If I didn't deliver the funds to Mike, then he would simply deduct them from my moderator wages anyway. Then he'd fire me.
Anyone who has not made a commitment to share but who expects to receive a share when the game is over will be at the adjudicator's mercy.
If you haven't already commited to share, then please make your intention clear. We don't want a massive squabble at the end.
Personally, I feel that after the announcements of the final set of results, that pooling should be done on the basis of commitments already given and we should not give Mike an administrative headache. Moving these nickles and dimes about could just get dissipated in paypal fees.
We DO KNOW that Mike will play fair. He'll explain or resolve any errors fairly and he will deliver what he says he'll deliver.
I resign from this game.
If I am entitled to anything at games end, share it with the pool.
To my fellow players, best of luck. 73A 4LIFE.
For years I had trouble getting one, they claimed I had one already, but I wasn't aware of it. Went to the site the other day and was able to get in and make a password using my email address. I have no idea what the problem was, I've heard of many people out there having problems though.Quote: NathanI will share. ;) Still don't have a PayPal account, however. ;) :/
Easy solution to that is to ask Wizard to give your share to charity... or me. I might need it !Quote: NathanI will share. ;) Still don't have a PayPal account, however. ;) :/
Quote: OnceDearEasy solution to that is to ask Wizard to give your share to charity... or me. I might need it !
OD, please remember that Nathan is a young, lower-income female who cheerfully posts about betting $1.00 or 50 cents on various lottery numbers. I would recommend that she get a Paypal account, but otherwise we will find a way to send her whatever she is due.
Hey. I've got paypal and I'm a poor no-income, unemployed* brit. I need the money more, to fund my own recreational gambling habit.Quote: gordonm888OD, please remember that Nathan is a young, lower-income female who cheerfully posts about betting $1.00 or 50 cents on various lottery numbers. I would recommend that she get a Paypal account, but otherwise we will find a way to send her whatever she is due.
I recommend Nathan get a paypal account too.
* Moderator role doesn't count as employment because Wizard pays me in beer.
** Lying is acceptable here, isn't it?
Quote: OnceDear
Member Winnings Total Sharing? Nathan 50c+50c+$1.25 $2.25 Yes UK MARK 40c+40c+$1.25 $2.05 Yes Troopscott 50c+50c+$1.00 $2.00 Yes
Guys and Gals, please check my numbers.
E&OE
Thanks OD for putting this together as I had no idea where things were and with a current $2.05 I don't see me retiring just yet.
Definitely in for pooling and spinning it up :-)
I have been paid off on bets here by Amazon gift card which I give to my son.
Quote: billryanQuote: OnceDearI think that lying about the way you voted or about how you intend to vote is perfectly acceptable. Making a commitment to share what you win and then not doing so is a bang out of order and constitutes the unforgivable offence of welching.
OD promising a bribe and instructing mods to nuke him if he welches on that is a risky strategy :o) If I didn't deliver the funds to Mike, then he would simply deduct them from my moderator wages anyway. Then he'd fire me.
Anyone who has not made a commitment to share but who expects to receive a share when the game is over will be at the adjudicator's mercy.
If you haven't already commited to share, then please make your intention clear. We don't want a massive squabble at the end.
Personally, I feel that after the announcements of the final set of results, that pooling should be done on the basis of commitments already given and we should not give Mike an administrative headache. Moving these nickles and dimes about could just get dissipated in paypal fees.
We DO KNOW that Mike will play fair. He'll explain or resolve any errors fairly and he will deliver what he says he'll deliver.
I resign from this game.
If I am entitled to anything at games end, share it with the pool.
To my fellow players, best of luck. 73A 4LIFE.
This gives me an idea... What if we all resign except for the highly paid mods OD and BBB under the assumption that we are not really resigning, but allowing them to maximize the pooled winnings on everyone's behalf?
Quote: prozemaQuote: billryanQuote: OnceDearI think that lying about the way you voted or about how you intend to vote is perfectly acceptable. Making a commitment to share what you win and then not doing so is a bang out of order and constitutes the unforgivable offence of welching.
OD promising a bribe and instructing mods to nuke him if he welches on that is a risky strategy :o) If I didn't deliver the funds to Mike, then he would simply deduct them from my moderator wages anyway. Then he'd fire me.
Anyone who has not made a commitment to share but who expects to receive a share when the game is over will be at the adjudicator's mercy.
If you haven't already commited to share, then please make your intention clear. We don't want a massive squabble at the end.
Personally, I feel that after the announcements of the final set of results, that pooling should be done on the basis of commitments already given and we should not give Mike an administrative headache. Moving these nickles and dimes about could just get dissipated in paypal fees.
We DO KNOW that Mike will play fair. He'll explain or resolve any errors fairly and he will deliver what he says he'll deliver.
I resign from this game.
If I am entitled to anything at games end, share it with the pool.
To my fellow players, best of luck. 73A 4LIFE.
This gives me an idea... What if we all resign except for the highly paid mods OD and BBB under the assumption that we are not really resigning, but allowing them to maximize the pooled winnings on everyone's behalf?
You have some daft ideas :o)
So.... Why do I suspect you are trying to get me and BBB into a jelly wrestle dispute about the winnings while all the rest of you retire to the audience?
Quote: OnceDearQuote: prozemaQuote: billryanQuote: OnceDearI think that lying about the way you voted or about how you intend to vote is perfectly acceptable. Making a commitment to share what you win and then not doing so is a bang out of order and constitutes the unforgivable offence of welching.
OD promising a bribe and instructing mods to nuke him if he welches on that is a risky strategy :o) If I didn't deliver the funds to Mike, then he would simply deduct them from my moderator wages anyway. Then he'd fire me.
Anyone who has not made a commitment to share but who expects to receive a share when the game is over will be at the adjudicator's mercy.
If you haven't already commited to share, then please make your intention clear. We don't want a massive squabble at the end.
Personally, I feel that after the announcements of the final set of results, that pooling should be done on the basis of commitments already given and we should not give Mike an administrative headache. Moving these nickles and dimes about could just get dissipated in paypal fees.
We DO KNOW that Mike will play fair. He'll explain or resolve any errors fairly and he will deliver what he says he'll deliver.
I resign from this game.
If I am entitled to anything at games end, share it with the pool.
To my fellow players, best of luck. 73A 4LIFE.
This gives me an idea... What if we all resign except for the highly paid mods OD and BBB under the assumption that we are not really resigning, but allowing them to maximize the pooled winnings on everyone's behalf?
You have some daft ideas :o)
So.... Why do I suspect you are trying to get me and BBB into a jelly wrestle dispute about the winnings while all the rest of you retire to the audience?
If you can't laugh at the suffering of others, what can you laugh at? :-)
Basically, to be honest about the pooling and stuff.... WHO CARES. At the end of the game people will have like $2-$5, and we can see who does what with it then. That doesn't really affect the game that much and in the end we will know what each person does and form our own opinions about it. I think it should be pretty clear that at this point we have the 'majority' in the pool/share column, so let's just get back to the game and work that out at the end.Quote: SOOPOOJust to be clear, this is the RULE. Part of the game. OD might say he will pay up but HE DOES NOT HAVE TO. People might say they will share BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO. People might have said they will pool at the end BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO.
I did not lie in the last game, the record will show. I will not lie in this game. Others did. I can’t remember who though...
Hmm, I figure the Wiz could stop this with his rules and 'teams.' If enough officially resign from the game then the Wiz will cancel the game. If we fake resign and leave power up to a small few, the Wiz will simply make everyone else captains, and thus they can do what they want (like those not interested in pooling). So a good idea, but not a feasible one in my opinion... but I like where your head's at, and keep thinking ;-). I definitely feel like there's a way we can AP the Wiz, which is really the goal of the game for me =D.Quote: prozema...This gives me an idea... What if we all resign except for the highly paid mods OD and BBB under the assumption that we are not really resigning, but allowing them to maximize the pooled winnings on everyone's behalf?
I still maintain our bet strategy, regardless of the rules thus far, is to try to SPLIT the Share/Steal votes evenly. That way we only EVER lose 1/2n of the prize pool money, where n is the number of teams/individuals (for non team rounds) in play that try to steal for themselves. In special rounds like this one where the Wiz offers more money to all vote share, we need to confirm all captains are willing to vote share in order to go for the extra money, but that's where the headache comes in. So if we want the max money we have to deal with it, but if we want to just win and win together, then F it and just split the Share/Steal votes evenly.
Quote: RomesBasically, to be honest about the pooling and stuff.... WHO CARES. At the end of the game people will have like $2-$5, and we can see who does what with it then. That doesn't really affect the game that much and in the end we will know what each person does and form our own opinions about it. I think it should be pretty clear that at this point we have the 'majority' in the pool/share column, so let's just get back to the game and work that out at the end.
It's crazy how much all these rich AP/game inventors care about pooling such a small sum of money.
It's been discussed MANY times before on many different platforms... Even the MIT pro's wives/etc talk about how the AP's will apply it to all aspects of life, like bargain hunting/etc. It's not really something you can control or change if you're worth millions even. If I was a billionaire, I still wouldn't want to get ripped off. I'd still pick up cereal boxes and compare net weight with price per ounce. It's just how I think and how I live my life, regardless how much is in my bank account. Most AP's are this way or become this way since they have to get used to caring about every single penny of EV and they have to think about every which way they can maximize their EV. This inevitably carries over to real life, so the amounts don't matter, it's the principle =).Quote: SM777It's crazy how much all these rich AP/game inventors care about pooling such a small sum of money.
? Uh? I hope that's a joke. What's the punchline?Quote: onenickelmiracleI'm being deported to Mexico.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI'm being deported to Mexico.
!support
Couldn’t you also say you’re being imported into Mexico?
Fixed that for you. You're welcome.Quote: RS!support
Couldn’t you also say you’re being imported into by Mexico?
Quote: onenickelmiracleI'm being deported to Mexico.
Don't drink the water
Lay a few bricks on the way out (-;Quote: onenickelmiracleI'm being deported to Mexico.
Then just get a Visa, fly back over any boarders/boundaries, and stay =).Quote: AxelWolfLay a few bricks on the way out (-;
Quote: JohnnyQIf all the cool kids are pooling / sharing, then that's what I want to do too !
I’m pooling. Does that mean I am finally a cool kid???!!!!
Yes... EVERYONE: Mikey75 is now cool. Carry on.Quote: Mikey75I’m pooling. Does that mean I am finally a cool kid???!!!!
Quote: Mikey75I’m pooling. Does that mean I am finally a cool kid???!!!!
Just don’t eat your Baby Ruth bar in the pool.
Quote: OnceDear? Uh? I hope that's a joke. What's the punchline?
It was a lie. Thought I'd try one.
Quote: GWAEI am not committing to pooling. I am 99.54% sure I will but I am leaving the .46% out there in case some crazy twist leaves me with $500. In that case I am not pooling.
But if someone else in the pool has 500, would you mind if they pulled out? What if it was 100? Or 25?
Quote: AyecarumbaBut if someone else in the pool has 500, would you mind if they pulled out? What if it was 100? Or 25?
I would expect them too. 100 is probably the limit tbh. Anything under 100 I would pool
Either you are in for pooling 100% or you are out. You can't decide after the fact.Quote: GWAEI am not committing to pooling. I am 99.54% sure I will but I am leaving the .46% out there in case some crazy twist leaves me with $500. In that case I am not pooling.
Either you are in for pooling 100% or you are out. You can't decide after the fact.Quote: GWAEI am not committing to pooling. I am 99.54% sure I will but I am leaving the .46% out there in case some crazy twist leaves me with $500. In that case I am not pooling.
Either you are in for pooling 100% or you are out. You can't decide after the fact.Quote: GWAEI am not committing to pooling. I am 99.54% sure I will but I am leaving the .46% out there in case some crazy twist leaves me with $500. In that case I am not pooling.
Quote: beachbumbabsOk. I broke down and read all 61 pages for a list of those who stated their intentions. Some have not . All have the option of lying about it. But people have been pretty consistent, so I suspect the list is accurate.
Are sharing any winnings: page they said so. (?)=not completely definitive statement made.
SOOPOO :19
Romes :19
Bbb: 22
troopscott: 22
Prozema: 22
Gordonm888: 22
Kenneone: 23
OnceDear : 23
Joeman :31
UK MARK : 35, 67
Jmarch79: 36 (?) Clarified 63
Mikey75: 39, 69
Axelwolf: 39
Jufo81: 39 (?)
Playyourcardsright: 54
Miplet: 60
Nathan:62
Gamerfreak:64
PokerGrinder: 64
Torghatten: 66
JohnnyQ: 69
GWAE : 69(?)
Are NOT sharing/pooling winnings (playing for themselves)
Ayecarumba:25
RS: 34
MaxPen: 67 (?)
Resigned
billryan: 66
Have not committed either way (several of these seem to be sharing, but have not made a definitive statement).
Torghatten
MaxPen
Gamerfreak
Dalex64
MidwestAP
OneNickelMiracle
GWAE
JohnnyQ
SM777
PokerGrinder
djatc
DJTeddyBear
billryan
Nathan
Face
Corrections or clarifications welcome.
However, note that round 3 teams stealing had 5 people saying they would pool among them, so less than half that round was lost to the other poolers, only to those not pooling who voted Share. Silver lining to the forfeited bonus.
Moving forward to round 4, 4 of 5 listed on OnceDear's team have said they are pooling, so that should put at least $48 extra into the pool, with Mike's $20 if we accept ODs offer. Midwest AP may or may not be on that team, since he's duped, but OD pledged $12/team member.
Edit: MAP has been placed on team 2. ODs team is 4 members, all of whom already committed to share. OD has pledged $15/player for a total of $60.
So the smart move seems to be to go for that offer.
Step 1: PlayYourCardsRight, what say you?
Edited 7/9 @11:35a for 3 status changes.
" @14:10 for 1 status change.
Edited 7/10 @20:20 for 7 playersIf the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
Quote: PokerGrinderAx you really wanted to get that point across lol.
"I tell you 3 times" is standard science fiction verbal programming. Maybe Axel is from the future.
This offer is only valid to those who aren’t pooling yet AND I like.
Caveat: I’m not gonna PayPal you the money. If someone else wants to they can, or you can get it personally if you come to LV
Quote: KeeneoneI was just about to solve the best strategy for this game when this happened to me...
Why was he taking acid while trying to study? Seems counter productive, especially if you’re going to have a bad trip.
