Painting or the Cat
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August 11th, 2010 at 8:55:45 AM
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Suppose you are a firefighter and there is a fire at the museum. You have only time to save one thing before the fire consumes the building. Your choices are a priceless Rembrandt painting or a cat. Whichever one you don't pick will be destroyed in the fire. Which one do you save?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 11th, 2010 at 8:58:52 AM
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Did I ever tell you I abhor hypothetical emergency questions?
Anwyay, the cat has a small chance to save himself. The painting has none.
Anwyay, the cat has a small chance to save himself. The painting has none.
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August 11th, 2010 at 9:07:45 AM
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I'm just glad that these are anonymous polls. No one will ever know how I voted. ;+)
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August 11th, 2010 at 9:11:54 AM
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Quote: Nareed
Anwyay, the cat has a small chance to save himself. The painting has none.
That shouldn't be the reason for choosing the painting. I said, "Whichever one you don't pick will be destroyed in the fire." So please assume the cat won't find a way out if you pick the painting.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 11th, 2010 at 9:19:08 AM
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Quote: WizardThat shouldn't be the reason for choosing the painting. I said, "Whichever one you don't pick will be destroyed in the fire." So please assume the cat won't find a way out if you pick the painting.
That's why I don't like such questions. They assume facts that have not happened yet ;)
I once got thrown out of an ethics class in highschool for pointing such thigns out. But, hey, the question as phrased offered several other outs if the context of the situation was taken into account. So does this one, but I'll refrain for now.
I'll say this: most Rembrandts ahve been reproduced in some form or another; therefore while the original might be lost in the fire, the content of the painting itself won't be.
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August 11th, 2010 at 9:33:18 AM
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Well, since only one vote has been cast so far ....Quote: mipletI'm just glad that these are anonymous polls. No one will ever know how I voted. ;+)
August 11th, 2010 at 9:36:49 AM
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Quote: mipletI'm just glad that these are anonymous polls. No one will ever know how I voted. ;+)
Actually, at the time I voted for the cat there was only 1 vote registered, and that was for the cat. So I guess I know how you voted.
August 11th, 2010 at 9:41:34 AM
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Quote: Nareed
I'll say this: most Rembrandts ahve been reproduced in some form or another; therefore while the original might be lost in the fire, the content of the painting itself won't be.
I agree that paintings can be reproduced so well that it would take an expert to tell the difference between the fake and the original. However, I disagree that the "the content of the painting itself won't be (lost)." There is no substitute for the real thing. I doubt the museum in Norway would have been satisfied to use a reproduction of The Scream after the original was stolen.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 11th, 2010 at 9:45:45 AM
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How old is the cat?
August 11th, 2010 at 9:48:25 AM
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Anyway I get to keep the Rembrandt that I save? If not, screw it. I don't have much appreciation for old paintings. Some are ok, some are just flat awful.
August 11th, 2010 at 9:54:45 AM
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Good question!Quote: cardsharkHow old is the cat?
With animal shelters overflowing with discarded pets, and no desire for a pet of my own, despite the assumption presented in the question, I'll let the cat fend for itself.
But I too hate these types of hypothetical questions.
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August 11th, 2010 at 10:05:41 AM
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So many cats, such little time.
A falling knife has no handle.
August 11th, 2010 at 10:15:13 AM
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Ok, I've voted. Now if it was a dog...
Old enough to repaint. Young enough to sell.
August 11th, 2010 at 10:21:57 AM
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Quote: WizardI agree that paintings can be reproduced so well that it would take an expert to tell the difference between the fake and the original.
I also meant things like scans and high-quality photographs.
Quote:However, I disagree that the "the content of the painting itself won't be (lost)." There is no substitute for the real thing.
As a prized collectable and a stroe of value, no. As an object to study, appreciate or admire, any good reproduction will do.
Quote:I doubt the museum in Norway would have been satisfied to use a reproduction of The Scream after the original was stolen.
I'd have been delighted to have such a painting stolen. It would be insured, after all. Now, if it had been a good painting, that would be a different matter.
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August 11th, 2010 at 11:24:26 AM
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I skimmed over this title, and at first thought it was something about "painting the cat". I opened it up because I wanted to see what cruel, heartless individual would do such a thing. But now that I've read the OP:
IF--and this is a big, honkin' if:
1. I somehow KNOW that the cat will not be able to escape on its own, AND
2. I somehow KNOW that I will, in fact, be able to save the cat (it won't run away before I can grab it, or get away after I do), AND
3. I somehow KNOW that the painting is, in fact, a priceless original Rembrandt (having stopped to read the museum display plaque before resuming fighting the fire), AND
4. I somehow know that the painting will be destroyed (i.e., the fire will not be put out in time to save it), THEN
I still save the painting. It's much easier to make another cat than another Rembrandt. Sorry, kitty.
IF--and this is a big, honkin' if:
1. I somehow KNOW that the cat will not be able to escape on its own, AND
2. I somehow KNOW that I will, in fact, be able to save the cat (it won't run away before I can grab it, or get away after I do), AND
3. I somehow KNOW that the painting is, in fact, a priceless original Rembrandt (having stopped to read the museum display plaque before resuming fighting the fire), AND
4. I somehow know that the painting will be destroyed (i.e., the fire will not be put out in time to save it), THEN
I still save the painting. It's much easier to make another cat than another Rembrandt. Sorry, kitty.
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August 11th, 2010 at 11:33:54 AM
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I too prefer dogs as pets, and was thinking this. But there are too many pet dogs that have been discarded to a shelter, too.Quote: waltomealOk, I've voted. Now if it was a dog...
Nice.Quote: mkl654321... Sorry, kitty.
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August 11th, 2010 at 11:55:31 AM
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I'm highly allergic to cats... but I'll still save a life over some watercolor on a canvas
August 11th, 2010 at 12:14:42 PM
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Quote: slytherI'm highly allergic to cats... but I'll still save a life over some watercolor on a canvas
Oil. Watercolor goes on paper. The old masters used oil paint. these days they're still in use, although acryllic paints have gained a following of their own.
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August 11th, 2010 at 12:16:16 PM
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Does this Rembrandt have a tear in it from Steve Wynn's elbow ? Is that why
a diet coke at ENCORE costs $ 4.50 at the bar WHEN YOU ARE PLAYING ?
Also, has the cat already used up its first 8 lives ?
a diet coke at ENCORE costs $ 4.50 at the bar WHEN YOU ARE PLAYING ?
Also, has the cat already used up its first 8 lives ?
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
August 11th, 2010 at 12:21:11 PM
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OK, I asked my wife and she said she would save the painting. If it were my favorite
cat at home, I'd like to think I would save RICO the cat, but I'm not sure that is true.
If the little guy got sick (again), I wouldn't shell out $ 500 for the vet. He did get
a couple hundred dollars of treatment, but that was around Christmas time a couple of
years ago and the kids were younger.
cat at home, I'd like to think I would save RICO the cat, but I'm not sure that is true.
If the little guy got sick (again), I wouldn't shell out $ 500 for the vet. He did get
a couple hundred dollars of treatment, but that was around Christmas time a couple of
years ago and the kids were younger.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
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August 11th, 2010 at 1:28:54 PM
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What anyone who ever owned a cat knows is that cats need not be carried. They're quite capable of clinging, hard, onto anything they want.
So the hypothetical fireman in the hypothetical fire can get the hypothetical cat to cling to his hypothetical coat, leaving his hypothetical hands free to carry the hypothetical painting.
I stress the various hypotheticals becasue a real cat would probabbly be too busy scratching the painting to shreds anyway :P
So the hypothetical fireman in the hypothetical fire can get the hypothetical cat to cling to his hypothetical coat, leaving his hypothetical hands free to carry the hypothetical painting.
I stress the various hypotheticals becasue a real cat would probabbly be too busy scratching the painting to shreds anyway :P
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August 11th, 2010 at 1:52:55 PM
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About the age of the cat, that isn't provided, so assume you don't know, but it looks like a healthy young cat.
About Steve Wynn, that was funny, but the painting he ripped was a Picasso. He also has a Rembrandt, which went for a record high Rembrandt price. source.
About getting to keep the painting, you can't. That is why I specified that you're a firefighter. I assumed you're on the job, and I assume they don't get to keep objects they save while on duty.
For those who voted for the cat, why? There is no shortage of cats in the world. Wouldn't the painting bring more joy to humanity than one more cat?
About Steve Wynn, that was funny, but the painting he ripped was a Picasso. He also has a Rembrandt, which went for a record high Rembrandt price. source.
About getting to keep the painting, you can't. That is why I specified that you're a firefighter. I assumed you're on the job, and I assume they don't get to keep objects they save while on duty.
For those who voted for the cat, why? There is no shortage of cats in the world. Wouldn't the painting bring more joy to humanity than one more cat?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 11th, 2010 at 1:53:47 PM
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That's gotta be the funniest/truest remark in this thread so far!Quote: NareedI stress the various hypotheticals becasue a real cat would probabbly be too busy scratching the painting to shreds anyway :P
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August 11th, 2010 at 2:07:15 PM
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Personally, I'd save the painting. A couple of reasons:
1.) Paintings have a much longer life than a cat.
2.) Since I'm the firefighter, I'd probably have to chase the cat with a 50lbs of gear on whereby risking my own life in the process. Painting is probably easier to catch/carry.
3.) Painting is worthmore and is priceless. Cats are ubiquitous and worth less. (although you might argue if its your cat)
4.) I'm allergic to cats.
But if put on the spot, I might not rationalize all of this. And aren't firefighters suppose to protect life as part of their list of top priorities before they protect property? Maybe that cat does have an extra life afterall???
1.) Paintings have a much longer life than a cat.
2.) Since I'm the firefighter, I'd probably have to chase the cat with a 50lbs of gear on whereby risking my own life in the process. Painting is probably easier to catch/carry.
3.) Painting is worthmore and is priceless. Cats are ubiquitous and worth less. (although you might argue if its your cat)
4.) I'm allergic to cats.
But if put on the spot, I might not rationalize all of this. And aren't firefighters suppose to protect life as part of their list of top priorities before they protect property? Maybe that cat does have an extra life afterall???
August 11th, 2010 at 2:13:26 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearThat's gotta be the funniest/truest remark in this thread so far!
Having briefly owned a cat, and having knowna few other cat owners, I can state that you can buy a scratching post and train your cat all you can stand, she will still pick one spot of carpet or furniture to shred.
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August 11th, 2010 at 2:18:12 PM
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Quote: WizardFor those who voted for the cat, why? There is no shortage of cats in the world. Wouldn't the painting bring more joy to humanity than one more cat?
Cat lovers. Go figure.
Seriously, while a painting may be more valuable than a cat (what if it is your child's cat?), you can't feel compassion for a painting. The painting will burn quitely while the cat will wail (and a cat's wail is one of the most godawful sounds you'll ever hear). The painting won't suffer and the cat will. That can be reason enough for a lot of people.
Oh, in addition the painting's owner may or may not get over the loss. The cat certainly won't.
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August 11th, 2010 at 2:19:08 PM
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In reality the cat would be hiding and too terrified to be approached safely by anyone.
The fireman would prefer to save the painting since the cat might scratch the union newsletter in the fireman's pocket, but the fireman knows there is a photographer outside and its better to be seen rescuing the cat even they later back up the ladder truck right over him.
Rembrandt? Probably been studied and photographed to death anyway and innumerable copies exist ... besides the painting is probably a fake anyway. And darn few firemen would know what a Rembrandt is anyway. The Rembrandt is undoubtedly insured, but the cat ain't.
If I vote correctly on this issue, is there a prize awarded? How much can I hock the prize for and then go wager on Banker?
The fireman would prefer to save the painting since the cat might scratch the union newsletter in the fireman's pocket, but the fireman knows there is a photographer outside and its better to be seen rescuing the cat even they later back up the ladder truck right over him.
Rembrandt? Probably been studied and photographed to death anyway and innumerable copies exist ... besides the painting is probably a fake anyway. And darn few firemen would know what a Rembrandt is anyway. The Rembrandt is undoubtedly insured, but the cat ain't.
If I vote correctly on this issue, is there a prize awarded? How much can I hock the prize for and then go wager on Banker?
August 11th, 2010 at 2:20:45 PM
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I actually carried two cats out of a fire (caused by lightning). They were fine until I got outside (this was in Texas,btw), where it was around 60 degrees and pouring buckets of rain. Fire, no problem. Rain, we're now going to claw the f*** out of you, mister. I threw them in the back of my car so they wouldn't disappear. They were indoor cats.
There was no painting to rescue.
There was no painting to rescue.
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August 11th, 2010 at 2:51:04 PM
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Now if this particular Rembrandt were done in florescent colors on velvet, THEN it could readily be recognized as something of sufficient value to warrant rescue.Quote: FleaStiffAnd darn few firemen would know what a Rembrandt is anyway.
August 11th, 2010 at 2:51:33 PM
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This thread is a good argument for why everything on the forum doesn't have to be gambling related. As a firefighter, you are trained to value life above property. So it would be humans, then animals, and THEN objects. Even if that animal would be brought to a shelter and put to sleep after a week.
Phrase it like this: A large cat is barreling down on a priceless painting, confused that it's a picture of a bird or a mouse or "Scream". He'll surely claw straight through it, ruining the painting. You have a gun and can shoot the cat, killing it, and saving the painting. Do you still choose the painting? Many look at the problem like this and choose the cat, because inaction is an excuse. "Well, I'd do nothing, because you're less likely to get into trouble doing nothing than doing something..."
Phrase it like this: A large cat is barreling down on a priceless painting, confused that it's a picture of a bird or a mouse or "Scream". He'll surely claw straight through it, ruining the painting. You have a gun and can shoot the cat, killing it, and saving the painting. Do you still choose the painting? Many look at the problem like this and choose the cat, because inaction is an excuse. "Well, I'd do nothing, because you're less likely to get into trouble doing nothing than doing something..."
August 11th, 2010 at 3:20:39 PM
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Quote: WizardFor those who voted for the cat, why? There is no shortage of cats in the world. Wouldn't the painting bring more joy to humanity than one more cat?
Oh, I thought you were refering to Nemuri-neko.
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August 11th, 2010 at 3:54:40 PM
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Or had a beer logo or looked like a giant can of tomato soup. Of course if it were a lesser painting, but one that could be sold on the black market after having officially been destroyed in the fire, then the answer is obvious: steal the painting and frame the cat for arson.Quote: DocNow if this particular Rembrandt were done in florescent colors on velvet, THEN it could readily be recognized as something of sufficient value to warrant rescue.
August 11th, 2010 at 4:01:08 PM
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Thanks for all the comments thus far. This is a tough crowd in terms of accepting a hypothetical question. For those who argue that the cat would be difficult to catch and carry out of the building, just assume it is already in a carrier. Also assume the fireman is an expert on art.
Regarding the pain of the cat, I would think it would die or pass out from smoke inhalation before the flames got to it.
I've had two cats and both of them used a scratching post I made for them about 90% of their scratching activity. The key is to wrap plenty of thick twine around a post. The store bought ones that are mostly carpet are not as appealing to cats.
Regarding the pain of the cat, I would think it would die or pass out from smoke inhalation before the flames got to it.
Quote: NareedHaving briefly owned a cat, and having known a few other cat owners, I can state that you can buy a scratching post and train your cat all you can stand, she will still pick one spot of carpet or furniture to shred.
I've had two cats and both of them used a scratching post I made for them about 90% of their scratching activity. The key is to wrap plenty of thick twine around a post. The store bought ones that are mostly carpet are not as appealing to cats.
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August 11th, 2010 at 4:17:35 PM
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Well, suppose for a moment that there weren't any hypothetical situations. ....Quote: WizardThis is a tough crowd in terms of accepting a hypothetical question.
August 11th, 2010 at 4:23:00 PM
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Certainly the life of an animal is not worth as much as a valuable part of human civilization. The fireman should save the painting.
As a more interesting hypothetical question about human lives versus the value of great artwork see the 1964 war movie, The Train written by Franklin Coen and Frank Davis and directed by John Frankenheimer. It stars Burt Lancaster, Paul Scofield and Jeanne Moreau.
Set in August 1944, the film sets Resistance-member Labiche (Burt Lancaster) as he attempts to prevent Col. von Waldheim (Paul Scofield) from shipping art masterpieces from a French museum to Germany. After the Germans remove the art chosen by Waldheim from the Jeu de Paume Museum, curator Mademoiselle Villard (Suzanne Flon) seeks help from the French Resistance. Given the imminent liberation of Paris by the Allies, they need only delay the train for a few days still, it is an extremely dangerous operation and it must be done in such a way that does not risk damaging the priceless cargo. Although the Resistance initially rejects the plan ("We wont waste lives on paintings"; "Dont you have copies of them?"), the men have a change of heart after a cantankerous elderly engineer, Papa Boule (Michel Simon), is executed for trying to sabotage the train on his own.
As a more interesting hypothetical question about human lives versus the value of great artwork see the 1964 war movie, The Train written by Franklin Coen and Frank Davis and directed by John Frankenheimer. It stars Burt Lancaster, Paul Scofield and Jeanne Moreau.
Set in August 1944, the film sets Resistance-member Labiche (Burt Lancaster) as he attempts to prevent Col. von Waldheim (Paul Scofield) from shipping art masterpieces from a French museum to Germany. After the Germans remove the art chosen by Waldheim from the Jeu de Paume Museum, curator Mademoiselle Villard (Suzanne Flon) seeks help from the French Resistance. Given the imminent liberation of Paris by the Allies, they need only delay the train for a few days still, it is an extremely dangerous operation and it must be done in such a way that does not risk damaging the priceless cargo. Although the Resistance initially rejects the plan ("We wont waste lives on paintings"; "Dont you have copies of them?"), the men have a change of heart after a cantankerous elderly engineer, Papa Boule (Michel Simon), is executed for trying to sabotage the train on his own.
August 11th, 2010 at 4:32:53 PM
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Quote: cclub79This thread is a good argument for why everything on the forum doesn't have to be gambling related"
Okay, : )
You run into a burning casino and into a secret back room and see a large stack of hundred dollar bills on a poker table, and next to it is a cat, and next to the cash is also a poker hand face down.
You only have time to 1) steal the cash OR 2) rescue the cat OR 3) turn over and see what the poker hand is...
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August 11th, 2010 at 6:05:47 PM
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Quote: WizardRegarding the pain of the cat, I would think it would die or pass out from smoke inhalation before the flames got to it.
I don't know if a cat would pass out at all, seeing as it is close to the ground where the oxygen is displaced to. Also smoke inhalation can cause burns inside the trachea and lungs. That hurts.
Quote:I've had two cats and both of them used a scratching post I made for them about 90% of their scratching activity. The key is to wrap plenty of thick twine around a post. The store bought ones that are mostly carpet are not as appealing to cats.
I got her one made of twine and wood, actually. She used it, but she also liked an old stool and one corner of carpet in my room.
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August 11th, 2010 at 7:35:25 PM
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That's all well and good, but it's also the result of all those countless hours of training.Quote: cclub79As a firefighter, you are trained to value life above property. So it would be humans, then animals, and THEN objects. Even if that animal would be brought to a shelter and put to sleep after a week.
The original question was posed to ordinary people. The same type of people would would be running out of the burning building while the firefighter is running in.
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August 11th, 2010 at 7:51:35 PM
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I'd save the cat. Screw civilization.
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August 11th, 2010 at 8:00:36 PM
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I'm upset that the voting is swayed so much toward the painting.
I'm a vegetarian, which doesn't mean I'm biased, but it does at least tell you where I'm coming from. The thought of allowing an animal to suffer a violent painful death to save a painting that can be easily recreated is plain wrong.
I know what the next post is going to be, "where is the line drawn?" I don't know if it's drawn at a fish, or a guinea pig, or whatever. But I do know that the cat needs to be saved. And it has nothing to do with the fact that we can make tons of cats to replace it, it's the fact that someone who allows another being to suffer pain unnecessarily has issues.
Sorry everyone, but I feel really strongly about this one.
I'm a vegetarian, which doesn't mean I'm biased, but it does at least tell you where I'm coming from. The thought of allowing an animal to suffer a violent painful death to save a painting that can be easily recreated is plain wrong.
I know what the next post is going to be, "where is the line drawn?" I don't know if it's drawn at a fish, or a guinea pig, or whatever. But I do know that the cat needs to be saved. And it has nothing to do with the fact that we can make tons of cats to replace it, it's the fact that someone who allows another being to suffer pain unnecessarily has issues.
Sorry everyone, but I feel really strongly about this one.
August 11th, 2010 at 8:07:03 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearThat's all well and good, but it's also the result of all those countless hours of training.
The original question was posed to ordinary people. The same type of people would would be running out of the burning building while the firefighter is running in.
But he said suppose you are a firefighter. That's what I did. I never had countless hours of training as a firefighter, yet I know how they prioritize. So I went with what they would have done. I have to imagine this kind of hypothetical is part of their "countless hours of training", so I'll go with them.
Plus art can be overrated, and it's inherent value is subjective. Life, in general, is precious. (My opinion only.) So if it's hypothetical, I'll stick with hypothetically letting a painting burn over hypothetically killing a cat. Full disclosure: I don't have a cat, nor do I want a cat.
August 11th, 2010 at 8:15:50 PM
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I've seen a version of this question before; but it was a container of several frozen embryos versus an infant.
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August 11th, 2010 at 8:21:56 PM
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I've posed this question once in a while for years. It is a good conversation starter. The reason I said "you're a firefighter" was not to impose the training, values, and appreciation of art of those in said profession. Rather, it was to avoid a line of questioning about keeping the painting, or getting a reward.
When I ask this question in person, by the way, men favor the painting by about 80%, and women the cat by about 80%.
When I ask this question in person, by the way, men favor the painting by about 80%, and women the cat by about 80%.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 11th, 2010 at 8:28:03 PM
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All good thought provoking questions can only be handled with humor, so......
The difference between CATS and DOGS
Excerpts From The Dogs Daily Diary
8:00 am - Oh Boy! Dog food! My favorite!
9:30 am - Oh Boy! A car ride! My favorite!
9:40 am - Oh Boy! A walk! My favorite!
10:30 am - Oh Boy! A car ride! My favorite!
11:30 am - Oh Boy! Dog food! My favorite!
Noon - Oh Boy! The kids! My favorite!
1:00 pm - Oh Boy! The yard! My favorite!
4:00 pm - Oh Boy! The kids! My favorite!
5:00 pm - Oh Boy! Dog food! My favorite!
5:30 pm - Oh Boy! Mom! My favorite!
6:00 pm - Oh Boy! Playing ball! My favorite!
6:30 pm - Oh Boy! Sleeping in masters bed! My favorite!
Excerpts From The Cats Daily Diary
Day 283 Of My Captivity.
My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little
dangling objects. They dine lavishly on fresh meat,
while I am forced to eat dry cereal. The only thing
that keeps me going is the hope of escape, and the
mild satisfaction I get from ruining the occasional
piece of furniture. Tomorrow I may eat another
house plant.
Today my attempt to kill my captors by weaving
around their feet while they were walking almost
succeeded; must try this at the top of the stairs. In
an attempt to disgust and repulse these vile
oppressors, I once again induced myself to vomit
on their favorite chair; must try this on their bed.
Decapitated a mouse and brought them the headless
body, in attempt to make them aware of what I am
capable of, and to try to strike fear into their hearts.
They only cooed and condescended about what a good
little cat I was. Hmmm, not working according to plan.
There was some sort of gathering of their accomplices.
I was placed in solitary throughout the event. However,
I could hear the noise and smell the food. More
importantly I overheard that my confinement
was due to MY power of allergies. Must learn what
this is and how to use it to my advantage.
I am convinced the other captives are flunkies and
maybe snitches. The dog is routinely released and
seems more than happy to return. He is obviously
a half-wit. The bird on the other hand has got to be
an informant, and speaks with them regularly. I am
certain he reports my every move. Due to his current
placement in the metal room, his safety is assured.
But I can wait, it is only a matter of time. . . .
Save the Cat! There were plenty of paintings. Life before objects.
The difference between CATS and DOGS
Excerpts From The Dogs Daily Diary
8:00 am - Oh Boy! Dog food! My favorite!
9:30 am - Oh Boy! A car ride! My favorite!
9:40 am - Oh Boy! A walk! My favorite!
10:30 am - Oh Boy! A car ride! My favorite!
11:30 am - Oh Boy! Dog food! My favorite!
Noon - Oh Boy! The kids! My favorite!
1:00 pm - Oh Boy! The yard! My favorite!
4:00 pm - Oh Boy! The kids! My favorite!
5:00 pm - Oh Boy! Dog food! My favorite!
5:30 pm - Oh Boy! Mom! My favorite!
6:00 pm - Oh Boy! Playing ball! My favorite!
6:30 pm - Oh Boy! Sleeping in masters bed! My favorite!
Excerpts From The Cats Daily Diary
Day 283 Of My Captivity.
My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little
dangling objects. They dine lavishly on fresh meat,
while I am forced to eat dry cereal. The only thing
that keeps me going is the hope of escape, and the
mild satisfaction I get from ruining the occasional
piece of furniture. Tomorrow I may eat another
house plant.
Today my attempt to kill my captors by weaving
around their feet while they were walking almost
succeeded; must try this at the top of the stairs. In
an attempt to disgust and repulse these vile
oppressors, I once again induced myself to vomit
on their favorite chair; must try this on their bed.
Decapitated a mouse and brought them the headless
body, in attempt to make them aware of what I am
capable of, and to try to strike fear into their hearts.
They only cooed and condescended about what a good
little cat I was. Hmmm, not working according to plan.
There was some sort of gathering of their accomplices.
I was placed in solitary throughout the event. However,
I could hear the noise and smell the food. More
importantly I overheard that my confinement
was due to MY power of allergies. Must learn what
this is and how to use it to my advantage.
I am convinced the other captives are flunkies and
maybe snitches. The dog is routinely released and
seems more than happy to return. He is obviously
a half-wit. The bird on the other hand has got to be
an informant, and speaks with them regularly. I am
certain he reports my every move. Due to his current
placement in the metal room, his safety is assured.
But I can wait, it is only a matter of time. . . .
Save the Cat! There were plenty of paintings. Life before objects.
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
August 11th, 2010 at 8:46:53 PM
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Im a male, and I would save the cat, I guess I fall into the 20% category! I agree with the previous post, life before objects.
August 11th, 2010 at 8:48:16 PM
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Quote: WizardThe reason I said "you're a firefighter" was not to impose the training, values, and appreciation of art of those in said profession. Rather, it was to avoid a line of questioning about keeping the painting, or getting a reward.
But it is true that as an average person, we should be able to mentally defer to the "experts" in a certain situation, for emotional backup or support. Since I know what the firefighter would do, that has weight in my decision. Even if you hadn't mentioned being a firefighter, it would still be something I'd think about. I recall being in a similar discussion and the argument was "but we are asking what YOU would do, not what a (in that case) police officer would do!" And my reply was "Knowing what a police officer would do most certainly shapes what I would do, so if this is some exercise to determine how I think, THAT'S HOW I THINK!"
August 11th, 2010 at 9:08:43 PM
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Quote: NicksGamingStuffIm a male, and I would save the cat, I guess I fall into the 20% category! I agree with the previous post, life before objects.
So would you also favor saving a cockroach instead of the painting?
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
August 11th, 2010 at 9:10:08 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleI'm upset that the voting is swayed so much toward the painting.
I'm a vegetarian, which doesn't mean I'm biased, but it does at least tell you where I'm coming from. The thought of allowing an animal to suffer a violent painful death to save a painting that can be easily recreated is plain wrong.
I know what the next post is going to be, "where is the line drawn?" I don't know if it's drawn at a fish, or a guinea pig, or whatever. But I do know that the cat needs to be saved. And it has nothing to do with the fact that we can make tons of cats to replace it, it's the fact that someone who allows another being to suffer pain unnecessarily has issues.
Sorry everyone, but I feel really strongly about this one.
THE ABOVE POST WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN BY FINSRULE'S CAT.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
August 11th, 2010 at 9:18:01 PM
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Quote: mkl654321So would you also favor saving a cockroach instead of the painting?
life before objects has to draw a line somewhere, might just as well be the cockroach.
Sorry Louis LeBeau (this is too easy of a reference to be called obscure).
Who wants to be first to answer the show, actor, and the character name and actor of the person who used the term?
No responding if you have to look it up!
And for the record, mice and rats would also not merit saving.
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
