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pacomartin
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June 26th, 2012 at 11:38:52 AM permalink
These 8 subway stops are the busiest in the NYC MTA subway system. All 8 are all in midtown Manhattan, and together they add up to 30% of the Manhattan ridership.


Times Sq-42 St

Grand Central-42 St

34 St-Herald Square

14 St-Union Sq

34 St-Penn Station (7th Avenue)

34 St-Penn Station (8th Avenue)

59 St-Columbus Circle

Lexington Av & 59 St




Bonus questions
The 9th busiest subway station is in uptown Manhattan


The 10th busiest subway station is at a terminus transfer to LIRR. Name the borough.

Queens
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June 26th, 2012 at 11:59:30 AM permalink
Two of the pictures are broken links but I guessed and got them anyway. I use this system every single day for the rest of my life.
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June 26th, 2012 at 12:06:24 PM permalink
I got none right. I've been to NYC three times and really
don't care for it. My thought is always 'people live here
on purpose?'. I like the country. Its quiet.
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June 26th, 2012 at 12:35:43 PM permalink
Got them all right. I lived in NY for 45 years, took the subway all the time. The photos made me slightly desirous to visit NYC, I haven't been there since 2006.
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June 26th, 2012 at 1:59:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I got none right. I've been to NYC three times and really don't care for it.



I would have thought that Times Square and Grand Central were universally recognized. I guess I was wrong.

I tried to find photos with visual clues. The third biggest station is used in the second line of the century old hit song:
"Give my regard's to Broadway,
Remember me ..."
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June 26th, 2012 at 4:55:43 PM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

Got them all right. I lived in NY for 45 years, took the subway all the time. The photos made me slightly desirous to visit NYC, I haven't been there since 2006.



I'm making my first trip out for business in July... I'm very excited.
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June 26th, 2012 at 5:29:11 PM permalink
I used to visit NYC at least once a year. It made me feel more alive and a better person for having gone. Now, I haven't been in a few years and instead I visit Las Vegas :)

Here are my answers, without looking:
(1)
Times Square

(2)
Grand Central Station

(3)
Herald Square

(4)
Union Square

(5)
Um, also Herald Square?

(6)
Penn Station

(7)
Columbus Circle

(8)
No idea! But it looks like the east side, maybe Lex. & 42nd?

(9)
I'll say B'way and W. 72nd. I always seem to spend a lot of time in that station

(10)
Queens


Edit: Ah, pretty close but no cigar. Would have though 5&6 should be combined.

For what it's worth, my favorite station is Jackson Heights/Roosevelt Avenue, Queens.
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June 26th, 2012 at 5:40:23 PM permalink
I've been on a 7 week trip across Europe and visited the capital cities of 7 European countries and I still have yet to visit the east coast of the US. I really need to make some time for a DC/New York/etc. trip.
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June 26th, 2012 at 5:51:31 PM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

I would have thought that Times Square and Grand Central were universally recognized.



I lied for effect, I got those two right. I guess I really
resent NYC because I heard about it all my life and I
was 40 before I visited and I really wanted to love it.
Boy was I let down. It smelled bad, was noisy, crowded,
and the traffic was horrible. Every place we went it was
super expensive and the people were rude. I was going
to buy a Rolex knockoff just for fun from a street vendor,
but he was so obnoxious and rude to me I told him to
go screw himself. In the 3 times I've been there, I've
yet to have a good experience. Even Central Park was
a letdown.
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pacomartin
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June 26th, 2012 at 6:57:52 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Edit: Ah, pretty close but no cigar. Would have though 5&6 should be combined.



If two stations are combined as one complex they are connected by a black line on the subway map . I know that station 5 &6 are only 300 yards apart.

Quote: teddys

(8)

No idea! But it looks like the east side, maybe Lex. & 42nd?



That address you gave is the Hyatt attached to Grand Central Station. You have the Avenue correct, but you are off by about a mile.

Quote: teddys

For what it's worth, my favorite station is Jackson Heights/Roosevelt Avenue, Queens.


That is actually the second busiest station in Queens. Is that like Little India?
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June 27th, 2012 at 10:18:01 AM permalink

The plan is to build a giant transportation hub as part of the World Trade Center complex.This idea is something that has been kicking around for decades, but 9-11 gave them an excuse to build it.

Developers are somewhat upset by the idea of using such valuable real estate for a concourse. The preferred method is to have hallways and ticket counters buried in the below ground floors of office buildings.

The hub will connect all of the subway stops together in by a huge collection of walkways and hallways. It may mean walking hundreds of yards. Urban planners are hoping to add future rail links to the airports (JFK and Newark).


Many people miss the great train stations, and they love scenes like the Fisher King Dance Scene at Grand Central. When they tore down Penn Central in 1963 (53 years old) one commentator wrote "We used to enter the city like kings, now we scuttle in like rats".
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June 27th, 2012 at 11:18:54 AM permalink
Quote: teddys


(9)

I'll say B'way and W. 72nd. I always seem to spend a lot of time in that station



Every time I'm in NYC I make sure to stop here. Gray's Papaya <3
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June 27th, 2012 at 5:45:19 PM permalink
Quote: cestanl

Quote: teddys


(9)

I'll say B'way and W. 72nd. I always seem to spend a lot of time in that station



Every time I'm in NYC I make sure to stop here. Gray's Papaya <3

OH HECK YES. I love how they brought back the recession special.
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June 27th, 2012 at 9:20:26 PM permalink
Some fun at Grand Central Station:

pacomartin
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June 28th, 2012 at 1:57:38 AM permalink
You can always have fun in a train station.
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June 28th, 2012 at 4:15:30 AM permalink
Quote: Tiltpoul

I'm making my first trip out for business in July... I'm very excited.

I'm heading there as we speak!! Just like yesterday and the day before that.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
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June 28th, 2012 at 1:02:17 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Quote: cestanl

Quote: teddys


(9)

I'll say B'way and W. 72nd. I always seem to spend a lot of time in that station



Every time I'm in NYC I make sure to stop here. Gray's Papaya <3

OH HECK YES. I love how they brought back the recession special.


It looks a lot more like the one that used to be on the northwestern corner of 8th Avenue and 37th Street.
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June 28th, 2012 at 4:39:31 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

It looks a lot more like the one that used to be on the northwestern corner of 8th Avenue and 37th Street.

(Photo does not reflect actual location.)
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June 28th, 2012 at 5:54:28 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

It looks a lot more like the one that used to be on the northwestern corner of 8th Avenue and 37th Street.



The photo in Wikipedia is supposed to be the old 8th Avenue and 37th Street location. It does look like the same building from a different angle (see the SPACE for RENT sign).
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June 28th, 2012 at 7:25:48 PM permalink
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June 29th, 2012 at 1:23:38 AM permalink
Hypothetical question with some background information. The PATH trains under the Hudson are now carrying 76.6 million people, a 50 year high. Before the Holland Tunnel in 1927 (the first car tunnel) the trains carried 113 million as the only competition was the Pennsylvania railroad and the ferries. So the PATH trains are still 36.5 million people short of the 1927 record.

After keeping the Holland Tunnel toll at $1 round trip for nearly 50 years, the toll has jumped to $12 cash with discounts for for off times and Toll cards. This is still short of London's congestion pricing at closer to $16 for driving into the central congestion zone. Since London't congestion zone doesn't have a convenient river, it is controlled by hundreds of cameras.

Most Brits consider it outrageous to drive into the Congestion Zone. They park outside and enter the city. Now the Congestion zone has 200,000 residents, is 8.1 square miles and does not include the business district. In contrast Manhattan is 4 times that geographical area, and 8 times that population.

The last point to consider is that London has a much more highly developed regional rail and transit system than New York.

Do you favor Mayor Bloomberg's plan to try to get a portion of Manhattan to mimic the congestion zone in London? Basically tax automobiles so high that people will be forced to use public transportation to get to that portion of the island? Usually he is talking about everything south of 60th street.


Congestion zone in London


Controlled zone in Manhattan
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June 29th, 2012 at 6:00:07 AM permalink
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This is a perfect example of what I don't like about NYC. This
is a place I would never eat at in a hundred years. Open doors,
bags of smelly garbage at the curb, everything looks rundown.
People walking by who look like they have all their possessions
in huge plastic bags. An adult video store right next door. I'd
be afraid of getting poisoned at a joint like this.
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June 29th, 2012 at 6:02:00 AM permalink
i would prefer to see tolls on the east river bridges, first.
the people coming in from long island have gotten a free pass for long enough.
i have lived in manhattan for twenty years and i have now come to favor congestion pricing as well.
residents of manhattan should be exempted.
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June 29th, 2012 at 7:12:02 AM permalink
Quote: WongBo

i would prefer to see tolls on the east river bridges, first. the people coming in from long island have gotten a free pass for long enough.
i have lived in manhattan for twenty years and i have now come to favor congestion pricing as well. residents of manhattan should be exempted.



I think every urban planner realizes you will get the biggest bang for your buck with the East River tolls. It's hard to believe that the city can sustain a free bridge crossing right next to a $13 round trip crossing through the Brooklyn Battery tunnel. I guess the political will to change 100 years of tradition is incredible.

Congestion pricing doesn't usually apply to residents inside the zone.


Historical Fares through Holland Tunnel
years Cash fare from NJ
1927 -1975  $1.00
1975 -1980  $1.50
1980 -1987  $2.00
1987 – 1991  $3.00
1991 – 2001  $4.00
2001 – 2008  $6.00
2008 – 2011  $8.00
2011 – NOW  $12.00
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June 29th, 2012 at 7:30:49 AM permalink
Quote: WongBo

i would prefer to see tolls on the east river bridges, first.
the people coming in from long island have gotten a free pass for long enough.
i have lived in manhattan for twenty years and i have now come to favor congestion pricing as well.
residents of manhattan should be exempted.

That picture was taken from one of the Twin Towers. I can tell because the fugly Gehry building is missing.
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June 29th, 2012 at 8:25:39 AM permalink
I guessed Canal St (4-5-6 line) as the 9th most popular Subway stop. Coney Island, baby.
Insted of Lex and 59th I gussed Madison & 59th.
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
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June 29th, 2012 at 9:06:26 AM permalink
Quote: 98Clubs

Insted of Lex and 59th I gussed Madison & 59th.



The only subway line on the upper east side is the Lexington Avenue Line. The second avenue subway has been in planning for about a 8 decades.

The 8th busiest station is hard to guess, because you are no longer near an architectural monument, plaza, or entrance into the city. It's just a busy city street with a lot of transfers.


What is the busiest station in the Bronx? Hint, there is the most popular attraction in the Bronx at this station.
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June 29th, 2012 at 11:32:29 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin


What is the busiest station in the Bronx? Hint, there is the most popular attraction in the Bronx at this station.


161 st. / yankee stadium
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June 29th, 2012 at 4:26:12 PM permalink
Quote: WongBo

161 st. / yankee stadium



You know the city, that's for sure. With the exception of one or two stations in the Bronx the rest of them don't have much traffic.
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June 29th, 2012 at 4:30:52 PM permalink
my first thought was the Bronx Zoo, but i couldn't remember the subway stop name. (East Tremont Ave/West Farms Square)
when i started trying to picture the bronx, the first thing i thought of was yankee stadium.
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