Sally4eva
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March 8th, 2012 at 3:46:29 AM permalink
Can anyone out there tell me:

In their experience playing LIVE European Roulette (Whether in a bricks and mortar casino or LIVE Dealers Online)

1. What is the biggest rally of BLACK you have ever seen or heard of to occur "in a row"? (ie: have you seen 16 blacks in a row? 20, 25, 30?)

2.What is the biggest rally for ODD you have ever seen or heard about in 23 years to occur "in a row" (ie: have you seen or heard of 16 odds in a row? 20, 25, 30?)

Cheers,

Anthony
WongBo
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March 8th, 2012 at 6:41:43 AM permalink
On August 18, 1913, at the casino in Monte Carlo, black came up a record twenty-six times in succession.

The longest runs I have personally witnessed in thirty years of playIng European roulette
eleven times in a row for black,
ten times for red,
eight times for low,
nine times for high,
twelve times for even and
ten times for odd.
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief. - Proverb.
FleaStiff
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March 8th, 2012 at 7:59:00 AM permalink
And what added confidence should we now have to ride out some adverse trend?
Shouldn't a contrarian switch well short of what is perceived to be the record?
Sally4eva
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March 10th, 2012 at 8:05:08 PM permalink
Cheers for that. I have been testing out what I call a 11 spin delay Martingale, which means, I wait till I see an 11 same colour streak, then I begin a $50.00 Martingale rally from that point and so far so good.
buzzpaff
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March 10th, 2012 at 8:07:52 PM permalink
So far so good. Famous last words. LOL
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March 10th, 2012 at 8:33:11 PM permalink
Quote: Sally4eva

I have been testing out what I call a 11 spin delay Martingale, which means, I wait till I see an 11 same colour streak, then I begin a $50.00 Martingale rally from that point and so far so good.

If you want to discuss your betting system, it is better that you start a thread about that in the "betting systems" forum.
You will be safer there.

So you wait.................
until 11 in a row of one color? that could be a long wait.
Why not add 11 in a row for odd/even and high/low also.

My figures show the expected wait time for a run of 11 at 18/37 to be 5,389 spins.
At 200 spin sets, about a 3.487069% or 1 in 29 chance of seeing one such run.
The median number of spins looks to be 3,378.

Why all the waiting?
Is there something good to watch on TV?

Why not bet against such a streak of 11?

Oh, South Park is on. Gotta go...

Start a new thread for your betting system.
We can have so much fun in a safer zone.
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
Sally4eva
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March 10th, 2012 at 9:28:12 PM permalink
Cheers for that. I have been testing out what I call a 11 spin delay Martingale, which means, I wait till I see an 11 same colour streak, then I begin a $50.00 Martingale rally from that point and so far so good.
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March 11th, 2012 at 6:23:41 PM permalink
Nowadays they have displays of recent numbers so it is quite easy to see runs of reds or blacks, especially if there are three tables running at the same time. I don't keep a count but quite often I look up and see there's been ten or so in a row - however I've never seen an entire screen (which I guess is the last 17 numbers).
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March 11th, 2012 at 6:51:26 PM permalink
Quote: Sally4eva

Cheers for that. I have been testing out what I call a 11 spin delay Martingale, which means, I wait till I see an 11 same colour streak, then I begin a $50.00 Martingale rally from that point and so far so good.


Why wait? Do you believe, that, if red hit 11 times in a row, then it's probability of hitting again next time is no 18/37? If so, what do you think the probability is? If not, then why waste your time waiting for those 11 hits.
"When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary"
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March 16th, 2012 at 7:54:59 PM permalink
I have seen a streak of 23 reds on a 00 wheel. Not european, but that is all I have here. And, a lot of people Marti'd the crap out of black and had time to run to the atm's and make it back in time to lose more money on black. By the time a black number came in, all those that were playing black had long busted and weren't around the table to see it.
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March 16th, 2012 at 7:57:38 PM permalink
Quote: Sally4eva

Cheers for that. I have been testing out what I call a 11 spin delay Martingale, which means, I wait till I see an 11 same colour streak, then I begin a $50.00 Martingale rally from that point and so far so good.




Someone please file this under " Famous Last Words."
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March 16th, 2012 at 10:28:02 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Someone please file this under " Famous Last Words."




'You guys' are fuc**n brutal here. Maybe a second job is in order or a hobby......something? Geez!

Hey Sally4eva >> Good luck with your style of play, I appreciate your posts.


Ken
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March 16th, 2012 at 11:26:50 PM permalink
What you are likely missing is that fact that most of the people on this forum already grasp basic probability, and can already determine the outcome of any roulette system/method without having to waste the the time required for testing. The people that are determined to test such systems are simply playing "catch up" with everyone else on the forum.

Buzzpaff's comment is basically a friendly warning.
AverageJOE
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March 19th, 2012 at 12:44:48 AM permalink
Quote: Sally4eva

Can anyone out there tell me:

In their experience playing LIVE European Roulette (Whether in a bricks and mortar casino or LIVE Dealers Online)

1. What is the biggest rally of BLACK you have ever seen or heard of to occur "in a row"? (ie: have you seen 16 blacks in a row? 20, 25, 30?)

2.What is the biggest rally for ODD you have ever seen or heard about in 23 years to occur "in a row" (ie: have you seen or heard of 16 odds in a row? 20, 25, 30?)

Cheers,

Anthony



Sally4eva i am going to put it polite and show you how no roulette systems work - is much better that you observe and not play at all.
You can download numbers from random org witch would be the same as any existing wheel.
Pick 100.000 trails with the numbers 1 and 2 witch would be the same as red and black.

Now do that for a week and you will see 8 in a row 9 in a row 10 in a row 11 in a row 12 in a row 13 in a row 14 in a row 15 in a row 16 in a row 17 in a row 18 in a row 19 in a row 20 in a row 21 in a row 22 in a row 23 in a row ...
Sonner or later you will find so many in a row that your Martingale will lose and you will never gain back your lose.

This means that nothing is due to happen - nothing.
I belive the record is around 32 in a row or witch i read been observed.

It would be the same thing if you pick 11 past results and bet against them, sooner or later the past result will repeat it self and you will have 22 similiar results or 32 similiar results depending how many you pick.
There is no way around a 50/50 distribution - every thing can happen - and randomness allways find its way around any bet selection you can think of or create.

You should look up the topic regarding Gamblers Fallacy.

Remember this and never forget it:

1. Gamblers fallacy - no past results matters or influence future ones it is still 50/50 even if you see 100 reds in a row.
2. The game it self has a negativ expectaion with mean there does not exist any postive expectaion playing the game.
3. All gambling books you can find are garbage and will never make you a long term winner.
4. The house edge will allways manifest ...

Aks you self why would you play when there is no way to win in the long run.
Well maybe you want to go out and relax with friends and have a good time and try your luck that evning.
Then you might find one gambling book usefull.

Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle. Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.
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March 19th, 2012 at 1:46:23 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Someone please file this under " Famous Last Words."

I don't know how long he has to wait around for a sequence consisting of eleven of the same color, but if the sequences all turn out to have been ONLY eleven of the same color in a row then that file folder marked Famous Last Words can be in gold.
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February 11th, 2013 at 9:24:12 PM permalink
Quote: AverageJOE

Sally4eva i am going to put it polite and show you how no roulette systems work - is much better that you observe and not play at all.
You can download numbers from random org witch would be the same as any existing wheel.
Pick 100.000 trails with the numbers 1 and 2 witch would be the same as red and black.

Now do that for a week and you will see 8 in a row 9 in a row 10 in a row 11 in a row 12 in a row 13 in a row 14 in a row 15 in a row 16 in a row 17 in a row 18 in a row 19 in a row 20 in a row 21 in a row 22 in a row 23 in a row ...
Sonner or later you will find so many in a row that your Martingale will lose and you will never gain back your lose.

This means that nothing is due to happen - nothing.
I belive the record is around 32 in a row or witch i read been observed.

It would be the same thing if you pick 11 past results and bet against them, sooner or later the past result will repeat it self and you will have 22 similiar results or 32 similiar results depending how many you pick.
There is no way around a 50/50 distribution - every thing can happen - and randomness allways find its way around any bet selection you can think of or create.

You should look up the topic regarding Gamblers Fallacy.

Remember this and never forget it:

1. Gamblers fallacy - no past results matters or influence future ones it is still 50/50 even if you see 100 reds in a row.
2. The game it self has a negativ expectaion with mean there does not exist any postive expectaion playing the game.
3. All gambling books you can find are garbage and will never make you a long term winner.
4. The house edge will allways manifest ...

Aks you self why would you play when there is no way to win in the long run.
Well maybe you want to go out and relax with friends and have a good time and try your luck that evning.
Then you might find one gambling book usefull.

Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle. Next step is pretty ugly-

100 REDS in a row??? Really? Even when it's already been established that 32 is the world record? I agree, 11 in a row means nothing, but let's double it to 22 in a row of red or black, high or low, and odd / even. This "delayed martingale" would have some validity. The 1st response questioned time, and what it would take to wait for a streak of 11, let alone a massive streak of 22 to emerge. But what if? What if??? What if you could be omnipresent to all the roulette wheels in Vegas? Your buzzed, teleported, whatever you wanna call it, PRESENT at 22 in a row, which would happen a few times a year. Would you at that point, believe that the "regression to the mean gods" carry any weight? And I'm not talking the next spin, which yes is 50/50, but playing the wheel until that 100% red percentage expierienced regression to say, sub 95%. Look forward to replies, I for one would be initially small bankrollin' it, because it would take a run of historic, eternal proportions to bankrupt me.
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February 11th, 2013 at 11:21:45 PM permalink
Quote: DHass22

100 REDS in a row??? Really? Even when it's already been established that 32 is the world record? I agree, 11 in a row means nothing, but let's double it to 22 in a row of red or black, high or low, and odd / even. This "delayed martingale" would have some validity. The 1st response questioned time, and what it would take to wait for a streak of 11, let alone a massive streak of 22 to emerge. But what if? What if??? What if you could be omnipresent to all the roulette wheels in Vegas? Your buzzed, teleported, whatever you wanna call it, PRESENT at 22 in a row, which would happen a few times a year. Would you at that point, believe that the "regression to the mean gods" carry any weight? And I'm not talking the next spin, which yes is 50/50, but playing the wheel until that 100% red percentage expierienced regression to say, sub 95%. Look forward to replies, I for one would be initially small bankrollin' it, because it would take a run of historic, eternal proportions to bankrupt me.

I understand there's a game in Jagofastan where red has not shown 23,412 times in a row. Unbiased wheel. 18/18 red,black.....single zero of course. An oil sheik has been using the martingale and is taking a beating.....have you wondered why oil prices are rising?
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December 19th, 2013 at 3:53:08 AM permalink
Hello Sally,

dont be silly.

How many years do you want to spend waiting in the Casinos?
Besides from that.. "the ball has no Memory" (as we say in german)

Roulette doesn't care.
knowledge is power
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December 20th, 2013 at 3:52:16 PM permalink
Soo, Who's Sally?
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