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September 4th, 2024 at 8:52:03 AM permalink
Check this out (I think you will need a Facebook login to access this link)...

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/MBqtEeVsdEzdNvUk/?mibextid=D5vuiz

A friend of mine came across this Facebook ad with Shack talking and it sounds way off to me. I'm guessing it's fake but I was just wondering if the Wiz is selling his likeness for online casino advertising or if he's been hijacked by AI.
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September 4th, 2024 at 9:07:21 AM permalink
Holy crap! That is TOTALLY fake!

Even as a former journalist, I thought from the opening graphics and intro narration that it was real for a few seconds.

If it were the 90s, I'd say: Mike, I hope you have your lawyer on speed dial!
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September 4th, 2024 at 9:47:40 AM permalink
Quote: prozema

Check this out (I think you will need a Facebook login to access this link)...

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/MBqtEeVsdEzdNvUk/?mibextid=D5vuiz

A friend of mine came across this Facebook ad with Shack talking and it sounds way off to me. I'm guessing it's fake but I was just wondering if the Wiz is selling his likeness for online casino advertising or if he's been hijacked by AI.
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Sounds 100% AI.


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September 4th, 2024 at 10:38:37 AM permalink
Since we all agree it's probably fake... It seems messed up that people can just hijack your image and make you say whatever they want.
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September 4th, 2024 at 11:18:31 AM permalink
I disagree. It doesn't look AI generated at all.

Mike will illuminate us but I have been researching AI lip synch generation and that looks further advanced than what I have seen possible.

Could be some new generator they are using but it looks more like on screen nervousness to me
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September 4th, 2024 at 11:36:33 AM permalink
He's reading a script, which is why it sounds a little off. He has been telling us for years now that his memory isn't what it used to be.
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September 4th, 2024 at 11:56:46 AM permalink
I guess I should have made it a poll.
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September 4th, 2024 at 12:07:41 PM permalink
It's the words that he's supposedly saying that make me think the video is fake.

I've been playing some mobile games, and the ads that pop up have scripts that sound just like this Facebook ad. I highly doubt that the Wizard would breathlessly hype a casino app in such a way — it would be a huge break from his endorsement style.

There's also the grainy video, poor editing between cuts, and didn't the opening narration say Wizard of Odds incorrectly? It all adds up to being highly sus. Nay verily, totally fake!
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September 4th, 2024 at 12:37:43 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

Check this out (I think you will need a Facebook login to access this link)...

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/MBqtEeVsdEzdNvUk/?mibextid=D5vuiz

A friend of mine came across this Facebook ad with Shack talking and it sounds way off to me. I'm guessing it's fake but I was just wondering if the Wiz is selling his likeness for online casino advertising or if he's been hijacked by AI.
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September 4th, 2024 at 12:50:36 PM permalink
Quote: smoothgrh

It's the words that he's supposedly saying that make me think the video is fake.

I've been playing some mobile games, and the ads that pop up have scripts that sound just like this Facebook ad. I highly doubt that the Wizard would breathlessly hype a casino app in such a way — it would be a huge break from his endorsement style.

There's also the grainy video, poor editing between cuts, and didn't the opening narration say Wizard of Odds incorrectly? It all adds up to being highly sus. Nay verily, totally fake!
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The opening off screen narrator is very AI sounding.

Grainy video and poor editing are NOT signs of an AI. Most AI is crisp,

AI has artifacts. I am talking Mike having six fingers or his eyes split in Two and then merge back together. AI artifacts are more like T2 morphing only unintentional.

Lip sync is very difficult. Lips can match but facial motions IN SYNCH are difficult. When Wiz looks upwards in thought that type of diverse facial actions are out of current AI capabilities.

Check out AI generated films on YouTube and you will see mostly static faces with voice over narration.

Right now the hype about deepfakes is causing everyone to see deep fakes regardless of how real the image actually is.
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September 4th, 2024 at 1:01:31 PM permalink
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Quote: prozema

Check this out (I think you will need a Facebook login to access this link)...

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/MBqtEeVsdEzdNvUk/?mibextid=D5vuiz

A friend of mine came across this Facebook ad with Shack talking and it sounds way off to me. I'm guessing it's fake but I was just wondering if the Wiz is selling his likeness for online casino advertising or if he's been hijacked by AI.
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Thanks man... I've been really busy. Lol
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September 4th, 2024 at 1:06:33 PM permalink
I just rewatched the vid...

cAEsars vs cEAsars

Sus
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September 4th, 2024 at 1:07:07 PM permalink
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Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: prozema

Check this out (I think you will need a Facebook login to access this link)...

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/MBqtEeVsdEzdNvUk/?mibextid=D5vuiz

A friend of mine came across this Facebook ad with Shack talking and it sounds way off to me. I'm guessing it's fake but I was just wondering if the Wiz is selling his likeness for online casino advertising or if he's been hijacked by AI.
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Thanks man... I've been really busy. Lol
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code for Jail? :p
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September 4th, 2024 at 1:10:22 PM permalink
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Quote: prozema

Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: prozema

Check this out (I think you will need a Facebook login to access this link)...

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/MBqtEeVsdEzdNvUk/?mibextid=D5vuiz

A friend of mine came across this Facebook ad with Shack talking and it sounds way off to me. I'm guessing it's fake but I was just wondering if the Wiz is selling his likeness for online casino advertising or if he's been hijacked by AI.
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Welcome back to the forum!
Last post 3 1/2 yrs ago in the Slot Lady thread.
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Thanks man... I've been really busy. Lol
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code for Jail? :p
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Where is the "like" button on this thing?
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September 4th, 2024 at 1:20:37 PM permalink
I feel that there is no way Mike made this video. He would never evaluate what he did in the way he did. The $1500 you get Mike would analyze completely in a mathematical way for all the strings attached, and believe me they are attached.

Caesars btw I gave up on for sportsbetting, the website was really bad and at the time I was not wanting to use a smartphone for that activity, in case that worked better. In particular, you often didn't know if you were in on the offer you were after, there wasn't a confirmation process like everybody else has [at the time, approx 2-3 yrs ago]

But I am quite unconvinced there is any reason to praise the site as "mike" was claiming
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September 4th, 2024 at 1:33:05 PM permalink
"People are familiar with Caesar's and trust it - unlike other online casinos."

If that is truly Mike, then I'm a little surprised he would make such a statement about "other online casinos" such as the ones that advertise on this site.
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September 4th, 2024 at 1:41:37 PM permalink
I understand everyone is basing their doubt on what they believe Mike would do.

I am basing my doubt on what AI CAN do.

It's not up to that level yet.
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September 4th, 2024 at 1:44:36 PM permalink
for People that have Mike's phone #, have you txt him this yet?
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September 4th, 2024 at 1:59:02 PM permalink
If it is AI they should have used James Grosjean to talk up Caesars or cEAsars or whatever it is....
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September 4th, 2024 at 2:01:51 PM permalink
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for People that have Mike's phone #, have you txt him this yet?
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I heard that he's stuck at Burning Man.
A lot of people are saying it.
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September 4th, 2024 at 2:26:34 PM permalink
I cannot believe that Mike is playing online from NV, nor that the casino app works from all 50 states for real money. The one Caesars property I play at is the only one that slow pays me even for PayPal transactions. Payments to banks takes 3-4 days. I really gag to think that Caesars is a trusted brank compared to DK or FD in the online space. I did get a $2022 signup bonus for Caesars in another state in 2022, and this was on the large side for signup bonuses. But, Caesars is really tight for ongoing bonuses, and I can name a dozen online properties that are more generous. Associated casino brands Harrahs and 888 are even worse than Caesars.

I don't think it is AI, but I think there is someone off camera holding a gun to the heads of Mike's family while he reads the script.
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September 4th, 2024 at 2:27:10 PM permalink
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Quote: 100xOdds

for People that have Mike's phone #, have you txt him this yet?
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I heard that he's stuck at Burning Man.
A lot of people are saying it.
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Stuck? can't pull out as in out of Lube? :p

No cell service out there?
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September 4th, 2024 at 2:44:57 PM permalink
Quote: Mental

I cannot believe that Mike is playing online from NV, nor that the casino app works from all 50 states for real money. The one Caesars property I play at is the only one that slow pays me even for PayPal transactions. Payments to banks takes 3-4 days. I really gag to think that Caesars is a trusted brank compared to DK or FD in the online space. I did get a $2022 signup bonus for Caesars in another state in 2022, and this was on the large side for signup bonuses. But, Caesars is really tight for ongoing bonuses, and I can name a dozen online properties that are more generous. Associated casino brands Harrahs and 888 are even worse than Caesars.

I don't think it is AI, but I think there is someone off camera holding a gun to the heads of Mike's family while he reads the script.
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I'd be willing to give odds it's AI. Very similar to the Mr. Beast and other celebriyy AI ads for casinos. These are usually scam casinos, not the real casi o companies site.


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September 4th, 2024 at 3:21:15 PM permalink
I thought he got a haircut. Luckily I don't have to pick him out of a lineup because I previously thought he had much longer hair and a beard and glasses.
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September 4th, 2024 at 3:58:11 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

"People are familiar with Caesar's and trust it - unlike other online casinos."

If that is truly Mike, then I'm a little surprised he would make such a statement about "other online casinos" such as the ones that advertise on this site.
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Mike sold this site years ago. He may not have any competitive restrictions like that.

Then again, it just doesn’t sound like Mike. Not the context per se, but the way he’s saying it is just off.

In particular, towards the end (and maybe elsewhere) he says “Caesar” not “Caesars”.

I find it hard to believe that anyone even remotely familiar would make that mistake.
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September 6th, 2024 at 6:42:11 AM permalink
On the other hand, the way he’s obviously reading a script, and doing it badly, reminds me of hostage videos where the victim is forced to read a statement.

Does anyone know Morse Code?
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September 6th, 2024 at 6:53:19 AM permalink
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On the other hand, the way he’s obviously reading a script, and doing it badly, reminds me of hostage videos where the victim is forced to read a statement.

Does anyone know Morse Code?
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Interesting theory, maybe Mike is being held hostage by one of the online casinos in Costa Rica.
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September 6th, 2024 at 11:23:29 AM permalink
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On the other hand, the way he’s obviously reading a script, and doing it badly, reminds me of hostage videos where the victim is forced to read a statement.

Does anyone know Morse Code?
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September 6th, 2024 at 12:09:06 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

On the other hand, the way he’s obviously reading a script, and doing it badly, reminds me of hostage videos where the victim is forced to read a statement.

Does anyone know Morse Code?
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Mike, if you are reading this and being held hostage, call my number and order a pizza delivery. I will immediately know this code and send the authorities. If you can not do this, during your ne t video, stare at the camerara and then blink twice slowly.


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September 6th, 2024 at 2:08:07 PM permalink
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September 8th, 2024 at 9:29:34 AM permalink
Burning Man was 8/25 to 9/2.
Mike was last on WoV on 8/30.

I’m not sure what’s weirder:
That it’s been so long since his last visit here, or that he visited here during Burning Man.

In fact, he made a lot of posts during Burning Man, but stopped abruptly on 8/30.
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September 8th, 2024 at 10:14:27 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Burning Man was 8/25 to 9/2.
Mike was last on WoV on 8/30.

I’m not sure what’s weirder:
That it’s been so long since his last visit here, or that he visited here during Burning Man.

In fact, he made a lot of posts during Burning Man, but stopped abruptly on 8/30.
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September 8th, 2024 at 10:35:35 AM permalink
Not wizard . How does no body see this. The supposed Caesar's Facebook page as 61 followers
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September 8th, 2024 at 10:37:55 AM permalink
Dark oz vouching for this being real make it even more suspect. How can I trust his opinion now. What has been happening is people are making social media pages for well known casinos. To start the absolute dead giveaway is that it says the app can be used in all 50 states. Gambling is not legal in all 50 so clearly this is fake. Cmon sharps wise up guys. Bad look that you guys don't realize this
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September 8th, 2024 at 10:50:07 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Burning Man was 8/25 to 9/2.
Mike was last on WoV on 8/30.

I’m not sure what’s weirder:
That it’s been so long since his last visit here, or that he visited here during Burning Man.

In fact, he made a lot of posts during Burning Man, but stopped abruptly on 8/30.
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September 8th, 2024 at 11:22:53 AM permalink
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Dark oz vouching for this being real make it even more suspect. How can I trust his opinion now.
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A strange comment for someone who has only been here since June.
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September 8th, 2024 at 11:29:06 AM permalink
Not strange, I was just referring more so to someone that is a very large ap was vouching for it being real. I'm sorry I offended you
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September 8th, 2024 at 11:29:25 AM permalink
The fact is there is currently no sync sound AI of the quality seen here.

That's facts.

Go try to replicate that video.

You can try Hedra which is currently state of the art lipsync AND still requires an audio recording of the person AND will still give you that person face STARING straight into the camera.

Still image recreation is totally realistic to the point people will find it difficult to tell deep fakes.

Video footage and MOST ESPECIALLY with lipsynch is not.

FACTS for anyone who actually likes to do research for the truth.

Everything else in this thread is conjecture that's easily disproven based on current technology

EDIT: Not to mention that state of the art video AI generated footage is limited generally to 5 and 10 seconds. Go to the TOP video generator today which is Luma, Runway gen 3 and Kling. Paid subscribers get only a few SILENT seconds of footage.

Good luck trying to replicate the footage this thread is talking about. See you in a year when it's finally possible
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September 8th, 2024 at 11:33:56 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Burning Man was 8/25 to 9/2.
Mike was last on WoV on 8/30.

I’m not sure what’s weirder:
That it’s been so long since his last visit here, or that he visited here during Burning Man.

In fact, he made a lot of posts during Burning Man, but stopped abruptly on 8/30.
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On his livestreams recently, he said he wasn't going to Burning Man this year, and is going to be an every other year Burner from now on. So did he change his plans and go this year? He also said he had some travelling coming up and wasn't going to livestream until October. So maybe the dude is traveling and not burning?

Or it could be the cannibals Chris Rock was worried about last year took another victim.

Shall we pour one out, or wait just a bit longer?
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September 8th, 2024 at 12:16:42 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

The fact is there is currently no sync sound AI of the quality seen here.

That's facts.

Go try to replicate that video.

You can try Hedra which is currently state of the art lipsync AND still requires an audio recording of the person AND will still give you that person face STARING straight into the camera.

Still image recreation is totally realistic to the point people will find it difficult to tell deep fakes.

Video footage and MOST ESPECIALLY with lipsynch is not.

FACTS for anyone who actually likes to do research for the truth.

Everything else in this thread is conjecture that's easily disproven based on current technology

EDIT: Not to mention that state of the art video AI generated footage is limited generally to 5 and 10 seconds. Go to the TOP video generator today which is Luma, Runway gen 3 and Kling. Paid subscribers get only a few SILENT seconds of footage.

Good luck trying to replicate the footage this thread is talking about. See you in a year when it's finally possible
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That video is easily replicated by someone with AI skills.


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September 8th, 2024 at 12:23:53 PM permalink
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He's reading a script, which is why it sounds a little off. He has been telling us for years now that his memory isn't what it used to be.
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Wizard is fine. I have been in communication with him.

I didn't bother him about this thread though. I am sure he will address it eventually. Until then we will just have to speculate.

You have my position and I am in agreement with D.Oz here. It is definitely not AI. At worst, it could be a video of him or portions of a video taken from elsewhere where a voice was dubbed in.

This purports to be from Channel 8, so the level of impersonation would involve not just impersonating the Wizard but also KLAS Vegas.
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September 8th, 2024 at 12:25:07 PM permalink
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Sorry but i'm in the camp that it's fake.
To my knowledge, Wiz doesn't do paid endorsements.
Plus the stuff LetmeHelp (or which ever banned member he was) said.

Maybe deepfakes have gotten much better than you think?
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September 8th, 2024 at 12:37:57 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Quote: darkoz

The fact is there is currently no sync sound AI of the quality seen here.

That's facts.

Go try to replicate that video.

You can try Hedra which is currently state of the art lipsync AND still requires an audio recording of the person AND will still give you that person face STARING straight into the camera.

Still image recreation is totally realistic to the point people will find it difficult to tell deep fakes.

Video footage and MOST ESPECIALLY with lipsynch is not.

FACTS for anyone who actually likes to do research for the truth.

Everything else in this thread is conjecture that's easily disproven based on current technology

EDIT: Not to mention that state of the art video AI generated footage is limited generally to 5 and 10 seconds. Go to the TOP video generator today which is Luma, Runway gen 3 and Kling. Paid subscribers get only a few SILENT seconds of footage.

Good luck trying to replicate the footage this thread is talking about. See you in a year when it's finally possible
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That video is easily replicated by someone with AI skills.


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September 8th, 2024 at 12:45:43 PM permalink
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DarkOZ

Sorry but i'm in the camp that it's fake.
To my knowledge, Wiz doesn't do paid endorsements.
Plus the stuff LetmeHelp (or which ever banned member he was) said.

Maybe deepfakes have gotten much better than you think?
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I'm currently at work on production of an AI generated film

I know what's possible and not possible on a day to day basis.

That video isn't possible with current AI.
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September 8th, 2024 at 12:54:33 PM permalink
100% fake

why is the Wizard not joining in here and enlighten us?
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September 8th, 2024 at 12:55:42 PM permalink
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Quote: 100xOdds

DarkOZ

Sorry but i'm in the camp that it's fake.
To my knowledge, Wiz doesn't do paid endorsements.
Plus the stuff LetmeHelp (or which ever banned member he was) said.

Maybe deepfakes have gotten much better than you think?
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I'm currently at work on production of an AI generated film
I know what's possible and not possible on a day to day basis.
That video isn't possible with current AI.
link to original post


Then how do you explain that Mike is now doing paid endorsements?
And the other stuff that LetMehelp said?

Also, congrats on being back in the film business.
Let us know when it's released
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September 8th, 2024 at 12:57:33 PM permalink
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100% fake

why is the Wizard not joining in here and enlighten us?
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Current theory is that he's been kidnapped and being forced to do these endorsement videos.
Watch for the next one to see if he stares into camera and blinks twice rapidly as a sign for help. :)
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September 8th, 2024 at 1:01:37 PM permalink
Quote: seven

100% fake

why is the Wizard not joining in here and enlighten us?
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Wizard is likely occupied with Wizard business.
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September 8th, 2024 at 1:06:40 PM permalink
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Quote: darkoz

Quote: 100xOdds

DarkOZ

Sorry but i'm in the camp that it's fake.
To my knowledge, Wiz doesn't do paid endorsements.
Plus the stuff LetmeHelp (or which ever banned member he was) said.

Maybe deepfakes have gotten much better than you think?
link to original post


I'm currently at work on production of an AI generated film
I know what's possible and not possible on a day to day basis.
That video isn't possible with current AI.
link to original post


Then how do you explain that Mike is now doing paid endorsements?
And the other stuff that LetMehelp said?

Also, congrats on being back in the film business.
Let us know when it's released
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I find it much more believable that someone would monetize his time (prior statements to the contrary regardless) than AI technology is at the state of that video.

AI will get there. Probably in 6 months. It's not there now.

Below is a video that shows where AI video generation is at. Released to YouTube 7 hours ago. Notice no clips longer than 10 seconds, barely any lip synch, realistic but somewhat plastic performance

https://youtu.be/mUR8CUmDbo0?si=lirsB31eygi_JSXg
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September 8th, 2024 at 1:14:00 PM permalink
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At worst, it could be a video of him or portions of a video taken from elsewhere where a voice was dubbed in.
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That would explain the video without attributing it to AI.
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