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September 8th, 2024 at 1:27:17 PM permalink
They probably made Mike an offer he couldn't refuse!

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September 8th, 2024 at 1:33:58 PM permalink
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It is definitely not AI. At worst, it could be a video of him or portions of a video taken from elsewhere where a voice was dubbed in.
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Okay there is something that might support this.



When I click the Download link marked caesarspalace.com I am taken to

gamefirsttime dot xyz



and I tried it a few times and always ended up there. Unless that is some advertiser that has taken over the caesars.com URL via some kind of hack, and if it is a permanent direct (versus redirect), then that would imply some affiliate link motive here, and support that the video is not genuine.

It may not be AI, but might still be some kind of dub job over some old videos of Mike's in his house and yes that is a genuine video or portions of genuine videos of Mike in his house.

As well, caesars.com is the usual URL they use not caesarspalace.com which merely redirects to caesars.com And all this is notwithstanding the spelling error Ceasars, although News Stations misspell and make typos all the time, but that combined with this odd affiliate link would seem to support a doctored video.

I suppose someone should download and preserve the video because it might get pulled before Wizard even gets to see it. That was my intent when I clicked Download but it downloaded nothing for me just sent me to that Cyborg site.
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September 8th, 2024 at 2:12:04 PM permalink
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Quote: seven

100% fake

why is the Wizard not joining in here and enlighten us?
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Wizard is likely occupied with Wizard business.
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September 8th, 2024 at 2:33:23 PM permalink
Ai alone may not make it, but what about someone who may have enough skills to work at Dreamworks or similar?

Just asking.
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September 8th, 2024 at 2:45:17 PM permalink
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Ai alone may not make it, but what about someone who may have enough skills to work at Dreamworks or similar?

Just asking.
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That would require greenscreen of Mike (which is getting into his cooperation again) and getting a voice dubbing session with him.

Basically a lot cheaper if he's cooperative to just have him set up his cell phone and take the video in the commercial.

Brask AI is a company where someone can do the greenscreen performance and then a "digital Wizard" could be AI replaced. But they are very careful about permissions and if Wizard is giving his permission then just shooting a cell phone video is easier and cheaper.
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September 8th, 2024 at 2:52:38 PM permalink
Ultimately there is a legal reason why it's almost certainly real.

I don't see Caesars spending money on ads that can simply be forcibly removed and result in a lawsuit with a simple cease and desist letter and easily obtained litigation
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September 8th, 2024 at 3:06:28 PM permalink
Looks real to me, with the Wiz reading off a script. Does anyone recognize the room/background in the video. For example, is it the same room as his livestreams or some other room in his house?
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September 8th, 2024 at 3:51:37 PM permalink
Mike is away from the forum doing non-forum activities. Nothing mysterious about his absence.
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September 8th, 2024 at 5:15:31 PM permalink
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Mike is away from the forum doing non-forum activities. Nothing mysterious about his absence.
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so you dont know what hes doing... that is the very definition of mystery
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September 8th, 2024 at 5:51:05 PM permalink
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Mike is away from the forum doing non-forum activities. Nothing mysterious about his absence.
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I won’t break the rule (too much) about private messages, except to mention he mentioned he would be off site as part of his pm to me a couple days ago, because he wanted me to know he wouldn’t be reachable a couple days later.
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September 8th, 2024 at 6:08:52 PM permalink
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Mike is away from the forum doing non-forum activities. Nothing mysterious about his absence.
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so you dont know what hes doing... that is the very definition of mystery
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Perhaps he is shooting more commercials for Caesars? (Joke)
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September 8th, 2024 at 7:02:21 PM permalink
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Ultimately there is a legal reason why it's almost certainly real.

I don't see Caesars spending money on ads that can simply be forcibly removed and result in a lawsuit with a simple cease and desist letter and easily obtained litigation
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In the logo, they spell it Caesars.
In the account name, they spell it Ceasars.

At least one of the other timeline posts (there are about 6) is in either a Greek or Cyrillic alphabet.
As my daughter would say, "sus".
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September 8th, 2024 at 8:18:42 PM permalink
Someone asked upthread if there was any evidence this was shot in Michael's house.

So here it is.

This first screen grab is our questionable Caesars video. Notice the Wonder Woman poster on the wall above a white door and a poster board of post-its.



Now here is a screen grab from a different video (youtube link below) with Michael speaking from a different part of the room. But notice the same Wonder Woman poster, same white door, same post-it message board and same approximate positions.



I would say that's pretty strong evidence the Caesars video is real.

*** Now my main argument is no way is it AI. I suppose it could be real footage with a fake voice dubbed over. Hollywood has done dubbing techniques for 80 years. But the images of Mike in the Caesars video are actually of Mike and apparently a work room he uses.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RuTWpJNilqc&pp=ygUUbWljaGFlbCBzaGFja2xlZm9yZCA%3D
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September 8th, 2024 at 9:17:15 PM permalink
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Mike is away from the forum doing non-forum activities. Nothing mysterious about his absence.
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so you dont know what hes doing... that is the very definition of mystery
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Dieter and I do, in fact, know what Mike is doing and about when he will return. But it seems to me that this is Mike's private business. If he had wanted the forum to know, then he would have posted this information himself.
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September 8th, 2024 at 11:19:44 PM permalink
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Mike is away from the forum doing non-forum activities. Nothing mysterious about his absence.
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so you dont know what hes doing... that is the very definition of mystery
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Leave him alone. We'll ask him when he gets back.
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September 9th, 2024 at 2:36:43 AM permalink
Example of a fake video. (Watch until about 2:40)

On Norwegian, so most of you wont understand the language.

https://tv.nrk.no/se?v=NNFA51052824&t=80s
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September 9th, 2024 at 6:03:29 AM permalink
Its not AI. I read first “ Mike or Al”. Mike endorsed casinos in the past. It’s money. Fox NFL Pregame show endorse bookies. It was a “parlay” for fanduel on opening day. Or draftking? They are all the same. Endorsing is making money and some people turn envious.

Endorsement can be dangerous though if the casino behaves badly. There are so many people who accuse casinos of cheating or mistreatment. They can turn against the endorsing Mikes.
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September 9th, 2024 at 6:18:48 AM permalink
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Its not AI. I read first “ Mike or Al”. Mike endorsed casinos in the past. It’s money. Fox NFL Pregame show endorse bookies. It was a “parlay” for fanduel on opening day. Or draftking? They are all the same. Endorsing is making money and some people turn envious.

Endorsement can be dangerous though if the casino behaves badly. There are so many people who accuse casinos of cheating or mistreatment. They can turn against the endorsing Mikes.
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Why do they make a fake facebook page to promote it?
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September 9th, 2024 at 7:18:46 AM permalink
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Quote: toolyp

Its not AI. I read first “ Mike or Al”. Mike endorsed casinos in the past. It’s money. Fox NFL Pregame show endorse bookies. It was a “parlay” for fanduel on opening day. Or draftking? They are all the same. Endorsing is making money and some people turn envious.

Endorsement can be dangerous though if the casino behaves badly. There are so many people who accuse casinos of cheating or mistreatment. They can turn against the endorsing Mikes.
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Why do they make a fake facebook page to promote it?
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AI cant fake a facebook page. It probably is temporary and serves just this purpose of advertising. The voice sounds natural though. The “guy” also looks natural even nervous as someone else here suggested.

I saw a few fake youtube “highlights”. NBA finals. one AI fake was credible but didn’t fool me. The highlight was “published” many hours before the real game. In game 3 Dallas won. One day later Celtics won – that was REAL! The AI fake had many quirks. Also game 4 Stanley Cup. AI showed Panthers win 5-3. In real-life Oilers won 8-1! The images and sound had rough edges. I say again this “Mike” looks and sounds all natural.

Maybe he feels somehow ashamed for endorsing a new online casino. Hopefully he’s not in ER cuz somebody lost the shirt off his back!
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September 9th, 2024 at 7:42:10 AM permalink
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Quote: toolyp

Its not AI. I read first “ Mike or Al”. Mike endorsed casinos in the past. It’s money. Fox NFL Pregame show endorse bookies. It was a “parlay” for fanduel on opening day. Or draftking? They are all the same. Endorsing is making money and some people turn envious.

Endorsement can be dangerous though if the casino behaves badly. There are so many people who accuse casinos of cheating or mistreatment. They can turn against the endorsing Mikes.
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Why do they make a fake facebook page to promote it?
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AI cant fake a facebook page. It probably is temporary and serves just this purpose of advertising. The voice sounds natural though. The “guy” also looks natural even nervous as someone else here suggested.



Scammers can fake a facebook page, and they do it all the time. They also love using known persons to promote their scams.
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September 9th, 2024 at 7:51:18 AM permalink
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I cannot believe that Mike is playing online from NV, nor that the casino app works from all 50 states for real money. The one Caesars property I play at is the only one that slow pays me even for PayPal transactions. Payments to banks takes 3-4 days. I really gag to think that Caesars is a trusted brank compared to DK or FD in the online space. I did get a $2022 signup bonus for Caesars in another state in 2022, and this was on the large side for signup bonuses. But, Caesars is really tight for ongoing bonuses, and I can name a dozen online properties that are more generous. Associated casino brands Harrahs and 888 are even worse than Caesars.

I don't think it is AI, but I think there is someone off camera holding a gun to the heads of Mike's family while he reads the script.
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The Five families of New York? The Many Families of online gambling? Maybe Mike double-crossed  It is a known fact that Mike endorsed several casinos. I read on the internet stuff like “This online casino is endorsed by The Wizard of Vegas.”

I read also “casino reviews” written by Mikey. Surely paid reviews. There was a thread here about a casino endorsed by Mike. A guy joined and won a Superbowl bet I think. He couldnt withdraw his winning… blamed Mike also :(

Ive read on the net some people having a problem. On one hand Mike is strong against systems. On the other hand Mike encourages people to join this casino or that casino cuz they offer the best chances to win :)

It would be best for Mike to respond here. It is not a shame to advertise. Everybody wants as much money as you can get.
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It would be best for Mike to respond here. It is not a shame to advertise. Everybody wants as much money as you can get.
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(trimmed)

The Wizard is busy with Wizard business, and is unlikely to respond in a timely manner.

For some reason, I don't think that he would endorse a casino app that has trouble spelling their name consistently.
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September 9th, 2024 at 11:01:11 AM permalink
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It would be best for Mike to respond here. It is not a shame to advertise. Everybody wants as much money as you can get.
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(trimmed)

The Wizard is busy with Wizard business, and is unlikely to respond in a timely manner.

For some reason, I don't think that he would endorse a casino app that has trouble spelling their name consistently.
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But he did film that in his house apparently.

Did you skip my post above showing that?
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September 9th, 2024 at 11:30:50 AM permalink
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It would be best for Mike to respond here. It is not a shame to advertise. Everybody wants as much money as you can get.
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(trimmed)

The Wizard is busy with Wizard business, and is unlikely to respond in a timely manner.

For some reason, I don't think that he would endorse a casino app that has trouble spelling their name consistently.
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But he did film that in his house apparently.

Did you skip my post above showing that?
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The images were captured in his house.
Does that mean they weren't manipulated by non-AI methods?
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September 9th, 2024 at 11:33:50 AM permalink
Capture image from his house.
Scammer using green screen to "do the talk" and put that in front of the image from his house
Use AI to replace the scammers face and voice with Wiz'
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September 9th, 2024 at 11:37:09 AM permalink
It's kind of funny how some people just get so nitty over specific words... Obviously I was asking if people thought the video was real or fake and it devolves into some sort of conversation about AI capabilities... So productive and interesting I guess...

Just to reframe I think we are either dealing with Mike taking cash from some online casino that's figured out how to operate legally in Utah yet doesn't know whether the a or the e comes first...

Or somebody hijacked his likeness.

I personally would like to think it's the latter, and if that happened to me I would want to know.

If it's the former... Man I don't know what to say then...
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September 9th, 2024 at 12:31:53 PM permalink
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Quote: darkoz

Quote: Dieter

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It would be best for Mike to respond here. It is not a shame to advertise. Everybody wants as much money as you can get.
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(trimmed)

The Wizard is busy with Wizard business, and is unlikely to respond in a timely manner.

For some reason, I don't think that he would endorse a casino app that has trouble spelling their name consistently.
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But he did film that in his house apparently.

Did you skip my post above showing that?
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The images were captured in his house.
Does that mean they weren't manipulated by non-AI methods?
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I have stated up thread my only contention is those are not AI generated fakes.

Whether the site is real or the images/audio manipulated is certainly possible. But that isn't an AI generated image of the Wizard.
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September 9th, 2024 at 1:28:04 PM permalink
Well, as long as there is still speculation, I speculate if Mike did an ad for ANY gambling casino, you might only have to adjust a few words to make it appear to be for another casino. That said, I still have to watch the actual video. lol.
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September 9th, 2024 at 1:41:49 PM permalink
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Quote: Dieter

Quote: darkoz

Quote: Dieter

Quote: toolyp


It would be best for Mike to respond here. It is not a shame to advertise. Everybody wants as much money as you can get.
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(trimmed)

The Wizard is busy with Wizard business, and is unlikely to respond in a timely manner.

For some reason, I don't think that he would endorse a casino app that has trouble spelling their name consistently.
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But he did film that in his house apparently.

Did you skip my post above showing that?
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The images were captured in his house.
Does that mean they weren't manipulated by non-AI methods?
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I have stated up thread my only contention is those are not AI generated fakes.

Whether the site is real or the images/audio manipulated is certainly possible. But that isn't an AI generated image of the Wizard.
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I dont think anyone thinks Mike is AI generated. It's his voice being AI manipulated if anything.


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September 9th, 2024 at 2:04:17 PM permalink
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I have stated up thread my only contention is those are not AI generated fakes.

Whether the site is real or the images/audio manipulated is certainly possible. But that isn't an AI generated image of the Wizard.
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(snip!!)

I don't think I disagree with that.

The notion that the only two explanations are "legitimate endorsement" and "AI fakery" is what I dispute.

The whole thing still feels a bit M-M-M-Max Headroom stuttered to me. We reasonably know that type of production was possible without AI.
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September 9th, 2024 at 5:22:09 PM permalink
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They probably made Mike an offer he couldn't refuse!

;)
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Quote: darkoz

Ultimately there is a legal reason why it's almost certainly real.

I don't see Caesars spending money on ads that can simply be forcibly removed and result in a lawsuit with a simple cease and desist letter and easily obtained litigation
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Your position is that "it's almost certainly real," including because you "don't see Caesars spending money on ads that can simply be forcibly removed."

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Someone asked upthread if there was any evidence this was shot in Michael's house.

So here it is.

.
.
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I would say that's pretty strong evidence the Caesars video is real.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RuTWpJNilqc&pp=ygUUbWljaGFlbCBzaGFja2xlZm9yZCA%3D
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You've also said that the fact that the video was shot in Michael's house is "pretty strong evidence the Caesars video is real."

I initially thought it was simply Wizard's stilted reading of a script, but since then, I have come to the conclusion that it's some video that was taken from elsewhere, with the Caesar's app promo verbiage dubbed in in a voice that sounds like Wizard's, but not quite. Wizard speaks more slowly, less deliberately than the voice in this doctored video.

The video is not, as you claim, "real" and your "legal reason[ing]" is wrong, which would not be the first time that your legal reasoning was completely off, in this case off - because the video has nothing to do with Caesars or KLAS Vegas.

What you failed to consider in the above "it's almost certainly real" analysis, is the possibility that the portions of the video could be legitimate, but then these portions were connected together in illegitimate ways and then had an illegitimate audio dubbed over it. I believe that the same was done with the KLAS video - legitimate video or portions of legitimate video, illegitimate voice over.

The end game here is to direct people to some affiliate links from who-knows-where, not from Caesars.

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Quote: MDawg

It is definitely not AI. At worst, it could be a video of him or portions of a video taken from elsewhere where a voice was dubbed in.
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Okay there is something that might support this.



When I click the Download link marked caesarspalace.com I am taken to

gamefirsttime dot xyz



and I tried it a few times and always ended up there. Unless that is some advertiser that has taken over the caesars.com URL via some kind of hack, and if it is a permanent direct (versus redirect), then that would imply some affiliate link motive here, and support that the video is not genuine.

It may not be AI, but might still be some kind of dub job over some old videos of Mike's in his house and yes that is a genuine video or portions of genuine videos of Mike in his house.

As well, caesars.com is the usual URL they use not caesarspalace.com which merely redirects to caesars.com And all this is notwithstanding the spelling error Ceasars, although News Stations misspell and make typos all the time, but that combined with this odd affiliate link would seem to support a doctored video.

I suppose someone should download and preserve the video because it might get pulled before Wizard even gets to see it. That was my intent when I clicked Download but it downloaded nothing for me just sent me to that Cyborg site.
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September 9th, 2024 at 6:13:35 PM permalink
I think you all are missing the obvious. It's not that *Caesars* can't spell its own name. It's that *some stupid affiliate marketer* can't spell Caesars' name.

If it turns out it was actually Caesars misspelling its own name, I'll stand corrected, but I seriously doubt that's the case.
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September 9th, 2024 at 9:25:34 PM permalink
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Quote: darkoz

They probably made Mike an offer he couldn't refuse!

;)
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Quote: darkoz

Ultimately there is a legal reason why it's almost certainly real.

I don't see Caesars spending money on ads that can simply be forcibly removed and result in a lawsuit with a simple cease and desist letter and easily obtained litigation
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Your position is that "it's almost certainly real," including because you "don't see Caesars spending money on ads that can simply be forcibly removed."

Quote: darkoz

Someone asked upthread if there was any evidence this was shot in Michael's house.

So here it is.

.
.
.

I would say that's pretty strong evidence the Caesars video is real.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RuTWpJNilqc&pp=ygUUbWljaGFlbCBzaGFja2xlZm9yZCA%3D
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You've also said that the fact that the video was shot in Michael's house is "pretty strong evidence the Caesars video is real."

I initially thought it was simply Wizard's stilted reading of a script, but since then, I have come to the conclusion that it's some video that was taken from elsewhere, with the Caesar's app promo verbiage dubbed in in a voice that sounds like Wizard's, but not quite. Wizard speaks more slowly, less deliberately than the voice in this doctored video.

The video is not, as you claim, "real" and your "legal reason[ing]" is wrong, which would not be the first time that your legal reasoning was completely off, in this case off - because the video has nothing to do with Caesars or KLAS Vegas.

What you failed to consider in the above "it's almost certainly real" analysis, is the possibility that the portions of the video could be legitimate, but then these portions were connected together in illegitimate ways and then had an illegitimate audio dubbed over it. I believe that the same was done with the KLAS video - legitimate video or portions of legitimate video, illegitimate voice over.

The end game here is to direct people to some affiliate links from who-knows-where, not from Caesars.

Quote: MDawg

Quote: MDawg

It is definitely not AI. At worst, it could be a video of him or portions of a video taken from elsewhere where a voice was dubbed in.
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Okay there is something that might support this.



When I click the Download link marked caesarspalace.com I am taken to

gamefirsttime dot xyz



and I tried it a few times and always ended up there. Unless that is some advertiser that has taken over the caesars.com URL via some kind of hack, and if it is a permanent direct (versus redirect), then that would imply some affiliate link motive here, and support that the video is not genuine.

It may not be AI, but might still be some kind of dub job over some old videos of Mike's in his house and yes that is a genuine video or portions of genuine videos of Mike in his house.

As well, caesars.com is the usual URL they use not caesarspalace.com which merely redirects to caesars.com And all this is notwithstanding the spelling error Ceasars, although News Stations misspell and make typos all the time, but that combined with this odd affiliate link would seem to support a doctored video.

I suppose someone should download and preserve the video because it might get pulled before Wizard even gets to see it. That was my intent when I clicked Download but it downloaded nothing for me just sent me to that Cyborg site.
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I'm sorry. Are you trying to make a point?

By referring to obvious Godfather jokes?

That I said repeatedly the "CEASARS VIDEO" is real as in not AI generated?

As for the legal reasons why it would not be fake overall, I stand by that if it turns out to be from Caesars. A number of people have pointed out the overall ad may be fake and I have stated that is possible, BUT NOT USING AN AI OF MIKE."

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September 9th, 2024 at 10:13:18 PM permalink
It would be a dark day in Oz if D.Oz admitted he was wrong.

But there is always the consolation prize of comic relief.
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September 9th, 2024 at 10:26:32 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

It would be a dark day in Oz if D.Oz admitted he was wrong.

But there is always the consolation prize of comic relief.
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Hard to admit I am wrong when I am not.

I believe it's dark at least once a day in Oz (Australia).
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September 10th, 2024 at 3:40:18 AM permalink
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Ultimately there is a legal reason why it's almost certainly real.

I don't see Caesars spending money on ads that can simply be forcibly removed and result in a lawsuit with a simple cease and desist letter and easily obtained litigation
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The link to the FB ad provided here:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/MBqtEeVsdEzdNvUk/?mibextid=D5vuiz

I said Mikes video looked REAL. Ive had quite a few experiences with AI. I mentioned 2 fakes (NBA finals and NHL finals). They didn’t fool me. Maybe they fooled other viewers. In Mike’s video case I said it was real. It is not AI created. There opinions here to the contrary.

* Lip-synching convinced me the video is real. Watch Mikes lips and the words. I can see perfect lip-synching. * The image is real, the voice is real, lip-synching is clear ¬– the video must be real.

I also said Mike himself should have responded to this thread. It’s no big deal if he advertised for Caesars or any other casino. It only takes 5 minutes to give a truthful answer. “Yes, it was me for real So whats the problem?” Or “NO, that ad is a fake, most likey an AI production. Im gonna whack ‘em!”

Mike cant be that busy with Wizard business. He could’ve found a couple of minutes to post here a simple sentence. What if he is really ill? That would be the only explanation I reckon. Cuz I dont think he is hostage (was a joke by somebody here).
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September 10th, 2024 at 3:57:35 AM permalink
Quote: toolyp

Quote: darkoz

Ultimately there is a legal reason why it's almost certainly real.

I don't see Caesars spending money on ads that can simply be forcibly removed and result in a lawsuit with a simple cease and desist letter and easily obtained litigation
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The link to the FB ad provided here:
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/MBqtEeVsdEzdNvUk/?mibextid=D5vuiz

I said Mikes video looked REAL. Ive had quite a few experiences with AI. I mentioned 2 fakes (NBA finals and NHL finals). They didn’t fool me. Maybe they fooled other viewers. In Mike’s video case I said it was real. It is not AI created. There opinions here to the contrary.

* Lip-synching convinced me the video is real. Watch Mikes lips and the words. I can see perfect lip-synching. * The image is real, the voice is real, lip-synching is clear ¬– the video must be real.

I also said Mike himself should have responded to this thread. It’s no big deal if he advertised for Caesars or any other casino. It only takes 5 minutes to give a truthful answer. “Yes, it was me for real So whats the problem?” Or “NO, that ad is a fake, most likey an AI production. Im gonna whack ‘em!”

Mike cant be that busy with Wizard business. He could’ve found a couple of minutes to post here a simple sentence. What if he is really ill? That would be the only explanation I reckon. Cuz I dont think he is hostage (was a joke by somebody here).
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He may be busy with one of his travels or sick. I am sure that sooner or later he will join in with his answer.

I am still 100% sure that it is a fake, because it does not fit for Mike to do an ad like this.

I hope Mike is well
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September 10th, 2024 at 5:02:14 AM permalink
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Mike cant be that busy with Wizard business.
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(snip!)

He can. He really can.
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September 10th, 2024 at 5:39:04 AM permalink
What does wizard business mean?

Is that code for hookers and blow?
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September 10th, 2024 at 5:40:37 AM permalink
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What does wizard business mean?

Is that code for hookers and blow?
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I am guessing you don't know the Wizard. I would be willing to bet he has done neither a hooker or blow.
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September 10th, 2024 at 5:41:11 AM permalink
I wouldn't bet on that.

Would you feel better if I said strippers and weed?
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September 10th, 2024 at 6:02:26 AM permalink
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I wouldn't bet on that.

Would you feel better if I said strippers and weed?
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If I am not mistaken I believe he has mentioned smoking weed. in my case, I have neither done a stripper nor smoked weed.
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September 10th, 2024 at 6:03:24 AM permalink
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What does wizard business mean?

Is that code for hookers and blow?
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sorry that is not nice to say
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September 10th, 2024 at 6:38:29 AM permalink
I guess I forgot the internet doesn't have a sense of humor. I take it back.
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September 10th, 2024 at 6:39:02 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Quote: prozema

I wouldn't bet on that.

Would you feel better if I said strippers and weed?
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If I am not mistaken I believe he has mentioned smoking weed. in my case, I have neither done a stripper nor smoked weed.
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We're kind of splitting hairs then aren't we?
Lol.
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September 10th, 2024 at 7:12:15 AM permalink
You may notice that Wizard is not posting anything on any thread in the forum - his "unresponsiveness" is not specific to this thread. This situation may well continue for a while. The moderators and a few others in the forum have knowledge about what he is doing.

Let me give some examples of what he might possibly be doing:

a) Visiting Antarctica and Patagonia

b) Trekking in the Himalayas

c) Going on a math pilgrimage to the University of Göttingen, the University of Basel, and the Isaac Newton Institute for Mathematical Sciences.

d) Visiting China and Mongolia, including the Great Wall from both sides.

e) Spending a month in New Zealand

f) None of the above and nunya business

I have a sense of humor, but please think carefully before conjuring up salacious scenarios that publicly disrespect him.
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September 10th, 2024 at 7:42:26 AM permalink
Give me a break man... You're just being dramatic. Hookers and blow is a joke... Lighten up a little.

And by the way he's posting what he's doing right now on Facebook. It's not a big secret.

If there was some way of accurately settling a bet on hookers I would definitely take that he has had an experience with a hooker at least once. I don't know if he would admit to it though so I don't think I'm going to make any commitments here.
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September 10th, 2024 at 7:48:13 AM permalink
As someone who seems to be very open-minded and living in Nevada, it would be kind of surprising if Wizard had never been to a brothel, but I don't think that's anyone's business. If I could have afforded it in my younger years, I probably would have.
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September 10th, 2024 at 7:49:41 AM permalink
Yeah, he’s been known to not post for several days so let’s not jump to unnecessary conclusions about him, his whereabouts or what he’s doing.

But the video?

I trust it’s not real, and that it’s not the hostage scenario thing.

That leaves AI or some form of video editing.

I’m leaning towards editing.

I’m also looking forward to seeing him in 28 days at G2E. Maybe I’ll ask about this. Maybe not. Probably not. I suspect by then I won’t care - so long as he’s ok.
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September 10th, 2024 at 7:53:04 AM permalink
Suddenly I'm remembering why I stopped posting here 4 years ago...

Man you come here to try and help a guy out and you don't use the exact right word for video editing assuming that the editor is using a modern tool to edit videos...

Or you crack a joke about cocaine and hookers in Las Vegas...

Then some mod wants to pretend like he has top secret information that's posted on Facebook...

Maybe I'll come back in another 4 years and try again.
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