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October 6th, 2017 at 12:44:30 PM permalink

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Hi all and sorry for inconvenience. We had issues, as some of you already noticed, with ssl certificates, but that is resolved now and you shouldn't experience site lagging anymore.

If you have any other issues please let me know.

Thanks and again sorry for inconvenience

Much better,

but https://wizardofvegas.com/common/images/pin-icon.png is still a 404 on every forum post

Last edited by: OnceDear on Oct 7, 2017

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October 6th, 2017 at 2:36:10 PM permalink

The speed is better now but I am still experiencing some lag. Not nearly as bad as yesterday though.

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October 6th, 2017 at 3:07:07 PM permalink

Quote: miroslavlav
Hi all and sorry for inconvenience. We had issues, as some of you already noticed, with ssl certificates, but that is resolved now and you shouldn't experience site lagging anymore.

If you have any other issues please let me know.

Thanks and again sorry for inconvenience

I feel like we are getting c*ck teased here.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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October 6th, 2017 at 3:44:22 PM permalink

Best cut admin a bit of slack; after all, it's a free board.

"What, me worry?"

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October 6th, 2017 at 4:07:36 PM permalink

moving slow again, but not as bad as before.

DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!

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October 6th, 2017 at 5:13:54 PM permalink

Soooooooo much better today, miro. Thank you for the acknowledgement of some of the issues and the work.

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October 6th, 2017 at 5:51:04 PM permalink

Quote: MrV
Best cut admin a bit of slack; after all, it's a free board.

And the content we contribute is also free :)

Forum and contributor are mutually beneficial parasites.

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October 6th, 2017 at 9:16:51 PM permalink

Zipitty-do-dah!

Zippy, anyway.

:)

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October 7th, 2017 at 5:42:28 AM permalink

I finally was able to receive the password reset email a few days ago. It came into the spam folder, don't think I had it set up as such. Pm emails were not received, they may have come as spam emails, but I do not know that as a fact.

I am a robot.

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October 7th, 2017 at 6:07:35 AM permalink

Quote: onenickelmiracle
I finally was able to receive the password reset email a few days ago. It came into the spam folder, don't think I had it set up as such. Pm emails were not received, they may have come as spam emails, but I do not know that as a fact.

A lot of times this happens when emails are sent programmatically and don�t authenticate to a SMTP Server. Coupled with gambling keywords, SPAM catchers are going to sack those messages pretty quickly.

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October 7th, 2017 at 7:20:58 AM permalink

Quote: miroslavlav
Hi Gordon, eg. here you can find codes for inserting mathematical symbols and at the end are also card symbols

Test:
♦ ♥ ♣ ♠
∑ ∀ ⇔

Thank you for the reference to this useful list of HTML codes for symbols.

However: "Direct HTML is not allowed in your posts" I am sorry for being a dummy, but given the HTML code how do I insert symbols into a WOV post?

If a spade symbol is #9824, how do I insert that into a post?

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October 7th, 2017 at 8:01:31 AM permalink

Quote: gordonm888

Thank you for the reference to this useful list of HTML codes for symbols.

However: "Direct HTML is not allowed in your posts" I am sorry for being a dummy, but given the HTML code how do I insert symbols into a WOV post?

If a spade symbol is #9824, how do I insert that into a post?

Hi Gordon,
Direct html might not be allowed, but if you want to enter a symbol, you can look it up at that site and use the fiorst column, where you see the entity code is an ampersand (&) followed by a description, followed by a semicolon.
Thus, if you want to enter the spades symbol in a forum post, you would type ♠ and would see that posted as ♠

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October 7th, 2017 at 8:03:29 AM permalink

Quote: gordonm888
Quote: miroslavlav
Hi Gordon, eg. here you can find codes for inserting mathematical symbols and at the end are also card symbols

Test:
♦ ♥ ♣ ♠
∑ ∀ ⇔

Thank you for the reference to this useful list of HTML codes for symbols.

However: "Direct HTML is not allowed in your posts" I am sorry for being a dummy, but given the HTML code how do I insert symbols into a WOV post?

If a spade symbol is #9824, how do I insert that into a post?

Check out my link from earlier. They aren�t HTML codes, but special ASCII characters. Hold the ALT key and type 9824 on the number pad (not sure on a laptop), or copy and paste from the list.

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October 7th, 2017 at 8:16:48 AM permalink

Thanks Miro and gamerfreak. Got it. A♠ I'm happy!

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October 7th, 2017 at 8:25:23 AM permalink

Quote: OnceDear
Hi Gordon,
Direct html might not be allowed, but if you want to enter a symbol, you can look it up at that site and use the fiorst column, where you see the entity code is an ampersand (&) followed by a description, followed by a semicolon.
Thus, if you want to enter the spades symbol in a forum post, you would type ♠ and would see that posted as ♠

Unfortunately, the translation is so good, even using edit or quote results in that character showing as a spade, not whatever you did to make it work from the table. Can you force an example using spaces or something to demo the format?

I would like to see that table link and a usable example put onto the "formatting codes" page for permanent reference, please. JB?

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October 7th, 2017 at 8:26:03 AM permalink

Hi Gamerfreak,
Not strictly anything to do with ascii. Some. very few, extended ascii characters can be entered by pressing and holding the alt key and entering the numeric code on the numeric keypad of a windows device. But ascii codes are strictly in the range 0 to 255. so, for example this ascii code 170 IN this character set is the symbol '¬'.
Extending that functionality for entering unicode, hold down alt and press the sequence 0176 and you get the degree symbol '°'

The codes in that linked table are UNICODE representations, and for the spades symbol, you should supposedly be able to hold down the alt key and enter 2660.
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2660/index.htm
However, I'm not so sure you can enter unicode in that way.
d is what I get when I enter the unicode 2660
[edit] Ah. to enter such unicode, press and hold the alt key - press the plus symbol on the numeric keypad and then type 2660 on the numeric pad[/edit]
Still only prints a d for me.
the ampersand way is the way to go, for simplicity.

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October 7th, 2017 at 8:26:42 AM permalink

Quote: gamerfreak
Quote: gordonm888
Quote: miroslavlav
Hi Gordon, eg. here you can find codes for inserting mathematical symbols and at the end are also card symbols

Test:
♦ ♥ ♣ ♠
∑ ∀ ⇔

Thank you for the reference to this useful list of HTML codes for symbols.

However: "Direct HTML is not allowed in your posts" I am sorry for being a dummy, but given the HTML code how do I insert symbols into a WOV post?

If a spade symbol is #9824, how do I insert that into a post?

Check out my link from earlier. They aren�t HTML codes, but special ASCII characters. Hold the ALT key and type 9824 on the number pad (not sure on a laptop), or copy and paste from the list.

And if your phone doesn't have an ALT key? (Many of us)

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October 7th, 2017 at 8:30:02 AM permalink

Quote: OnceDear
Hi Gamerfreak,
Not strictly anything to do with ascii. Some. very few, extended ascii characters can be entered by pressing and holding the alt key and entering the numeric code on the numeric keypad of a windows device. But ascii codes are strictly in the range 0 to 255. so, for example this ascii code 170 IN this character set is the symbol '¬'.
Extending that functionality for entering unicode, hold down alt and press the sequence 0176 and you get the degree symbol '°'

The codes in that linked table are UNICODE representations, and for the spades symbol, you should supposedly be able to hold down the alt key and enter 2660.
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2660/index.htm
However, I'm not so sure you can enter unicode in that way.
d is what I get when I enter the unicode 2660

You�re correct that it�s unicode! I use the two terms interchangeably too often. It should work entering them with the alt keys on windows with a full keyboard, probably depending on how things are set up here. I�ll try it out when I get back to my desktop.

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October 7th, 2017 at 8:30:41 AM permalink

Quote: beachbumbabs
Quote: gamerfreak
Quote: gordonm888
Quote: miroslavlav
Hi Gordon, eg. here you can find codes for inserting mathematical symbols and at the end are also card symbols

Test:
♦ ♥ ♣ ♠
∑ ∀ ⇔

Thank you for the reference to this useful list of HTML codes for symbols.

However: "Direct HTML is not allowed in your posts" I am sorry for being a dummy, but given the HTML code how do I insert symbols into a WOV post?

If a spade symbol is #9824, how do I insert that into a post?

Check out my link from earlier. They aren�t HTML codes, but special ASCII characters. Hold the ALT key and type 9824 on the number pad (not sure on a laptop), or copy and paste from the list.

And if your phone doesn't have an ALT key? (Many of us)

Copy and paste from a Unicode/ascii character list

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October 7th, 2017 at 8:32:42 AM permalink

Also on the iOS/Android I am sure there are keyboards you can install with a bunch of special characters.

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October 7th, 2017 at 10:07:42 AM permalink

It has been a while since I verified this, but I believe in Windows you can hold down alt, the press the numeric keypad 0 followed by the decimal number (as opposed to hexidecimal) of the HTML entity, also on the numeric keypad, with alt still held down. Upon releasing the alt key, the character should appear.

That's the HTML representation, not the Unicode character point.

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October 7th, 2017 at 10:17:42 AM permalink

Quote: OnceDear
Thus, if you want to enter the spades symbol in a forum post, you would type ♠ and would see that posted as ♠

Which just goes to show how difficult it might be to explain something. ;-)

Try this series of characters (without the spaces): & # 9 8 2 4 ;
This gives: ♠

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October 7th, 2017 at 11:13:15 AM permalink

Quote: Doc
Which just goes to show how difficult it might be to explain something. ;-)

Try this series of characters (without the spaces): & # 9 8 2 4 ;
This gives: ♠

Thanks Doc,
Tee hee, I knew that I could force an ampersand by typing & Which you won't be able to quote without buggering it up.

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October 7th, 2017 at 1:36:11 PM permalink

Quote: Doc
Which just goes to show how difficult it might be to explain something. ;-)

Try this series of characters (without the spaces): & # 9 8 2 4 ;
This gives: ♠

♠

Well, color me happy! I tried it without the semicolon the first time, and of course it didn't work.

Thanks! I'm going to put that on JB's formatting code page for reference. JB can, of course, remove it if he doesn't want it there.

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October 7th, 2017 at 2:23:43 PM permalink

I've added ASCII instructions under Miscellaneous at the bottom of the formatting page.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/help/1-formatting-codes/#post1

Could you guys please check it for correctness and comprehension? Thanks.

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October 7th, 2017 at 7:29:14 PM permalink

Thanks for saving that link on the formatting codes page -- I was wondering just where I should save that info. :-)

I do have a question about one of the symbols on that page, and maybe someone can explain it to me. First, I do understand the item that is given by &pi (plus the semicolon left off here). That gives the lower case Greek letter pi, and it looks like π.

However, a dozen lines below that in the table, there is something described as "greek pi symbol" made with the characters &piv (plus the semicolon). That gives the character ϖ which (to me) looks like the lower case omega with a bar on top of it. (It also looks a bit as if an elf is mooning me, but whatever.) Can anyone tell me more about that symbol? I expected the "greek pi symbol" to look more like an upper case pi, like what they call the product sign: ∏ , though the notes in the table say that is not the same character.

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October 7th, 2017 at 8:00:51 PM permalink

Glyph variant of the letter pi, according to several sources including https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_(letter)
See variants section.

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October 7th, 2017 at 8:31:17 PM permalink

I'm still a little slow here. Takes about 15 seconds to load a page, some times shorter, sometimes longer. No time outs for me though. Certainly better than before, but the variation in load time from page to page makes me feel there still may be some issue in the background..

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October 7th, 2017 at 8:39:30 PM permalink

Quote: Dalex64
Glyph variant of the letter pi....

Thanks for the info and the link. There are just far more variants than I am familiar with, and since I encountered most (in school) in handwritten form, I don't know the subtle differences.

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October 8th, 2017 at 11:28:57 AM permalink

Just wanted to post an update on speed. It's much better. Still not as fast as other sites but it is much faster and usable now. Everything has loaded in 20 seconds or less for a couple of days. Thanks for working to take care of it.

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October 8th, 2017 at 12:20:07 PM permalink

Hmmm...

I no longer seem to be getting email notices of new posts in threads I follow. Likewise for email alerting me when I get a new PM. It was working for a while recently, but just stopped again.

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October 8th, 2017 at 12:54:43 PM permalink

Got a few times outs today as well

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October 8th, 2017 at 3:52:36 PM permalink

I have just come to accept the inadequacies. When I want to remember dial up, I visit this site. I even make the annoying beeping sounds in my head while waiting for the page to load.

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October 8th, 2017 at 4:39:31 PM permalink

So here's an uninformed point of view on this issue, not based on any expertise in the world of online connections or of the internet. Like Justice Stewart's definition of pornography, when it comes to obscene forum response time... I know it when I see it.

I like this site and visit it often. I don't offer good advice, but I ask good questions and get enough valuable responses in amongst the chaff to make it worth my while.

I would suffer bad response time if that were still true. But it's not - the people who provide me with what I want from this site won't waste their time waiting for a window to open or for a "waiting for secure connection" line at the bottom of their window to go away. They will vote with their virtual feet and simply go away.

When they do, those of us who want to learn what they have to say, and those of us who are rank amateurs sent here because someone at the blackjack table we were sitting at, or at the next slot machine sent us here for some pointers, connections to offers or to other online interactions where you might make some money, will go away too.

At some point your response time issues will be like that tree that falls over in the forest when there is no one there. It makes a sound nobody hears. Nobody will care, because no one will be trying to connect.

Offer whatever excuses you want. Have "administrators" who have no connection with the company that provides the underlying connectivity (those folks with the names colored green that have complained or reported the same problems all of us are having) pretend that they know what is going on.

There's only one solution here. Stop telling us it's getting better. We know it when we see it. And we aint seeing it. Over the next short period of time more and more of us will just stop looking to see if you have fixed it. Tick. Tock.

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October 8th, 2017 at 4:52:13 PM permalink

π
ϖ

Test

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October 8th, 2017 at 6:38:14 PM permalink

Quote: LuckyPhow
Hmmm...

I no longer seem to be getting email notices of new posts in threads I follow. Likewise for email alerting me when I get a new PM. It was working for a while recently, but just stopped again.

Whoa! What service! I'm now getting email notices of new posts to threads I follow. Seems it picked up updates from about 2 days ago telling me of new posts I had already read on previous days. But, hey! It's progress. Maybe it will sync up properly going forward.

However, one problem remains: I received a new email (apparently) for each and every new post to my subscribed threads. So, I got about 25 emails, many telling me of updates to the same thread. And, this, notwithstanding text in each email notice that tells me:

Quote:
You will not receive further emails about subsequent replies to this thread until after you have viewed it again.

So, this part of the "email notice" system still does not work properly.

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October 8th, 2017 at 7:44:34 PM permalink

Quote: racquet

(Snip)

Offer whatever excuses you want. Have "administrators" who have no connection with the company that provides the underlying connectivity (those folks with the names colored green that have complained or reported the same problems all of us are having) pretend that they know what is going on.

There's only one solution here. Stop telling us it's getting better. We know it when we see it. And we aint seeing it. Over the next short period of time more and more of us will just stop looking to see if you have fixed it. Tick. Tock.

The first paragraph excerpted above seems like a cheap shot in what I thought was a well-intentioned critique. The situation is: there are 4 Admins in green, Wizard, Face, Mission, and myself, who moderate content. Zuga is a part-owner and, very rarely, gets involved in moderation. Joshua.Chan is the main owner.

JB, before the sale in 2015, was the main website admin. He is still involved. miroslavlav is the main web admin under Joshua Chan and Zuga. I believe he has at least one other Web admin working for him, I've seen a name but don't recall it atm.

ALL of those listed above have green names. It has to do with access to content and/or website maintenance controls. And allows identification by the membership of those who might either help them, or know who to send them to.

This thread has, I hope, been useful for documenting problems. We're all frustrated, members and greenies alike. Things are getting attention as they get reported.

But the greens working behind the scenes have their jobs, and those of us working content are NOT pretending to know more than we do about what needs to be done, or technical issues. Zuga is the boss,.and so the techs report to him, which is why he's posted here about it,.without necessarily doing the tech work (I don't know his web skill level, don't want to short him credit for something).

It's my understanding that our board was collateral damage when the host server was attacked for several days/weeks running. Also that there had been a plan to transition to another host for some time. These coincided, and not well, for about a month now. But trying to fight off an attack, and trying to upgrade services, both transparently to the members, speaks of a quality effort.

You're not wrong. I'm sure the lengthy and varied issues have cost us members, at least in the short term. But they have been open, honest, and responsive to the forum about what is happening and why, to the extent they know. So I'd appreciate your patience a little longer; things do seem to be improving.

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October 8th, 2017 at 7:51:32 PM permalink

still slow sometimes in the past hr (Sun 10/8 8 pm). Spotty. Sometimes instant.

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October 9th, 2017 at 5:17:35 AM permalink

Quote: LuckyPhow
However, one problem remains...

Fixed! Thank you! Seems I now get only one email regarless of how many post to a subscribed thread. Much appreciated.

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October 9th, 2017 at 10:12:48 AM permalink

Quote: beachbumbabs
I've added ASCII instructions under Miscellaneous at the bottom of the formatting page.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/help/1-formatting-codes/#post1

Could you guys please check it for correctness and comprehension? Thanks.

Because you asked, my take on clarity:

I'll focus on using HTML. Encoding characters on a particular device is a rat hole I'm going to avoid going down.

As the examples in this thread show, a numerical value can be used to specify the character to encode for web presentation using HTML markup. What character you get depends on the character set HTML is using.

The early web used the ASCII character set. Starting with HTML 2.0 and through HTML 4.01 the ISO-8859-1 character set was standard. (The Microsoft universe adoped the Windows-1252 character set as standard through Windows 95, adding to the confusion.) The HTML5 standard specifies UTF-8 encoding of the Unicode character set as default. UTF-16 encoding for Unicode provides expanded access to the character set. This forum's pages use the HTML5 standard and explicitly specify use of UTF-8 encoding. (Note: Old unsupported browsers will probably not work with current standards.)

HTML character encoding can use either an entity name or a number. Almost every Unicode character can be referenced by a number using either decimal or hexadecimal format. Most characters can also be referenced by an entity name. Numbers always work and are more portable for references outside HTML. Names are easier to remember but are English and specific to HTML. (i.e., You can encode ¢ as either & #162; & #xA2;, or & cent; removing the space. .)

I suggest augmenting (or even replacing) the reference for HTML encoding with w3schools.com's HTML Character Sets. imho, the reference is more complete and better ogranized.

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October 9th, 2017 at 12:33:29 PM permalink

Expanding on that, what people see depends on what fonts they have installed.

The instructions on the webpage tell the browser what font or fonts to use, and they will fall back to something else if those are absent.

Fonts don't have graphics for all of the characters. (There are a few that are more complete than others, but they are huge and use a lot of disk space and memory) Even if people have the same font, by name, installed on their computers, they might not have graphics for all of the same characters.

You'll end up with something like an empty box, or a dot, or even just a blank, in place of characters for which the graphics aren't stored.

I frequently end up using this page http://www.utf8-chartable.de/ for character references, but it is rather programmer-centric.

OnceDear