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gamerfreak
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October 1st, 2017 at 8:35:50 PM permalink
when I attempt to change my profile image:
"Sorry, an internal error has occurred. The error has been logged and will be reviewed."
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October 2nd, 2017 at 1:27:20 PM permalink
What is wrong with this site?

It takes about thirty or more seconds to load anything, from log on to switching between threads.

While processing the request, a message about "performing a tls handshake with wizardofodds.com" is displayed.

This has been going on for awhile now: why can't it be fixed?
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October 2nd, 2017 at 1:38:55 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

What is wrong with this site?

It takes about thirty or more seconds to load anything, from log on to switching between threads.

While processing the request, a message about "performing a tls handshake with wizardofodds.com" is displayed.

This has been going on for awhile now: why can't it be fixed?



Seemed like it was fixed for most of the last week as the server migration was completed, but starting about 1pm board time, it became sluggish and timing out again. I'm not involved in that end of things, so have no answers for you.
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October 2nd, 2017 at 2:06:00 PM permalink
Quote: MrV


It takes about thirty or more seconds to load anything, from log on to switching between threads.



Lots of random people following Vegas links today, I imagine.
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October 2nd, 2017 at 2:19:01 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Seemed like it was fixed for most of the last week as the server migration was completed, but starting about 1pm board time, it became sluggish and timing out again. I'm not involved in that end of things, so have no answers for you.



I visit 30+ sites on an almost daily basis and this is by far the worst. There is no way an online casino would run a site like this so it shows where we rank on the list of priorities. Probably rightfully so from a revenue standpoint.
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October 2nd, 2017 at 3:46:44 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

I visit 30+ sites on an almost daily basis and this is by far the worst. There is no way an online casino would run a site like this so it shows where we rank on the list of priorities. Probably rightfully so from a revenue standpoint.


Maybe, but I thought this site was hosted together with WOO, which is probably the most highly trafficked gambling info site on the net. They seem to have issues concurrently.

One would think that investing 1M+ in a website would be some motivation to keep it working properly.
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October 2nd, 2017 at 3:56:26 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Maybe, but I thought this site was hosted together with WOO, which is probably the most highly trafficked gambling info site on the net. They seem to have issues concurrently.

One would think that investing 1M+ in a website would be some motivation to keep it working properly.



You would think but obviously the technology is not there. Or is priced out of the reach of these guys. Or is just not a priority, which makes one wonder what their "independent " priorities are?
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October 4th, 2017 at 6:47:59 AM permalink
Hi all,

all reported issues should be now fixed:
Mails are being delivered and not going to spam,
special characters can be used in posts,
profile image can be changed.

We've been working on speed improvement and it should be better

If you still have this or any other issues with the site please let me know

Thanks :)
Ibeatyouraces
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October 4th, 2017 at 7:00:49 AM permalink
Quote: miroslavlav

special characters can be used in posts


Hoorah!! 😁
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October 4th, 2017 at 8:29:35 AM permalink
Quote: miroslavlav

profile image can be changed.

Yippie!
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October 4th, 2017 at 11:54:00 AM permalink
The speed is still VERY slow. It took over a minute for the site to load this chat box. Every other site I visit is loading fine. This one is getting to slow to visit.
beachbumbabs
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October 4th, 2017 at 12:58:04 PM permalink
Quote: miroslavlav

Hi all,

all reported issues should be now fixed:
Mails are being delivered and not going to spam,
special characters can be used in posts,
profile image can be changed.

We've been working on speed improvement and it should be better

If you still have this or any other issues with the site please let me know

Thanks :)



Thanks for the work. I am still timing out loading about every third page, and those that load take 30 seconds at a minimum, most 45-60 seconds.

I'm using an Android phone, latest OS, strong wifi connection at 50mps. This is the only site that doesn't load in less than 1 sec.

The site was moving well Monday, but went sluggish again on Tuesday, and continues to now.
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gamerfreak
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October 4th, 2017 at 1:03:06 PM permalink
Off and on for me as well. Ten minutes ago page loads were 45s-1m+ or completely timing out, but now everything is zippy.

It’s been that rollercoaster for days now.
beachbumbabs
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October 4th, 2017 at 1:06:32 PM permalink
Please note the time of my post above. The 30 or so loads immediately before it, including posting that, were behaving as I reported. The 10 or so since then have been instant. Something you did right then fixed the issue.

Rollercoaster is accurate. Every time I think you've been successful, the site starts to lag and timeout again. Hope this pinpoint helps identify the issue.
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Mikey75
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October 4th, 2017 at 1:12:58 PM permalink
It's much better for me too at the moment.
MrV
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October 4th, 2017 at 1:28:29 PM permalink
Still slow to load.
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beachbumbabs
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October 4th, 2017 at 1:54:49 PM permalink
From previous post until :38 past, less than 1 second loads. From :38 to :42, 5-10 second loading. From :42 to now, back to full lag/timeout problems.

I'm gone til later. Frustrating.
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OnceDear
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October 4th, 2017 at 2:35:21 PM permalink
Quote: miroslavlav

Hi all,

all reported issues should be now fixed:
Mails are being delivered and not going to spam,
special characters can be used in posts,
profile image can be changed.

We've been working on speed improvement and it should be better

If you still have this or any other issues with the site please let me know

Thanks :)


cheers
but up till a few minutes ago, lots of timeouts.

£:o)
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October 4th, 2017 at 5:04:49 PM permalink
Quote: miroslavlav

Hi all,

all reported issues should be now fixed:
Mails are being delivered and not going to spam,
...

Not to me. Previously, mail service connections were initiated then dropped due to DNS issues. Now... nothing.
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gamerfreak
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October 4th, 2017 at 6:51:22 PM permalink
This up and down is very frustrating.

Not to ruffle anyone’s feathers, but this has been going on for several weeks now. People are going to start moving on to other sites if it isn’t resolved soon.
Last edited by: gamerfreak on Oct 4, 2017
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October 4th, 2017 at 7:23:53 PM permalink
Rough for me too at times tonight. I thought this site moved providers? :(
Mikey75
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October 4th, 2017 at 7:26:33 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Rough for me too at times tonight. I thought this site moved providers? :(



It did but I think it's worse after the move. It has been a little better for me tonight.
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October 4th, 2017 at 8:19:02 PM permalink
Quote: miroslavlav


special characters can be used in posts



Now, if anyone can explain how to use the symbols for spades, hearts,diamonds and clubs in posts, it would be much appreciated.

Also, is it possible to use any mathematical symbols beyond the ones that are on keyboards?
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gamerfreak
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October 4th, 2017 at 8:22:21 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Now, if anyone can explain how to use the symbols for spades, hearts,diamonds and clubs in posts, it would be much appreciated.

Also, is it possible to use any mathematical symbols beyond the ones that are on keyboards?


https://www.alt-codes.net/
Ibeatyouraces
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October 4th, 2017 at 8:31:27 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Now, if anyone can explain how to use the symbols for spades, hearts,diamonds and clubs in posts, it would be much appreciated.


My are are on my keyboard on Android. A♤ A♡ A◇ A♧ A☆ five aces!
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beachbumbabs
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October 4th, 2017 at 10:47:37 PM permalink
Yeah, I had to try it, too








°

£
¥

Idk why I can't have a cents symbol. Wanted one for many years. Oh, well. The whole capability is a modern miracle.



Above is Android on my Samsung
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October 5th, 2017 at 12:47:42 AM permalink
¢, renders according to tools in use. Cut/paste is easiest use.
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October 5th, 2017 at 2:49:56 AM permalink
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

Not to me. Previously, mail service connections were initiated then dropped due to DNS issues. Now... nothing.

Fixed. Seems to have been done easily by changing the Sender field for mail from "www-data@ip-172-31-2-75" to "no-reply@wizardofodds.com".
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Ibeatyouraces
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October 5th, 2017 at 7:36:21 AM permalink
Very slow again this morning with a few error messages again.
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beachbumbabs
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October 5th, 2017 at 7:49:25 AM permalink
Same here. Timeout every load, 2 to 3 minutes loading per page.
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OnceDear
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October 5th, 2017 at 9:12:03 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Same here. Timeout every load, 2 to 3 minutes loading per page.



Currently almost totally unworkable, replying to posts without first copying to clipboard is like russian roulette with 5 bullets.
Server does not reply to pings which may be by design, albeit not best practice or desirable.

This is nothing to do with denial of service. It's a flaw in the site.

Frequently get partial load that seems to seize up just after the static top of the page loads. More frequently just don't get a page returned at all.

https://tools.pingdom.com/#!/g42Xk/https://wizardofvegas.com/forum
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October 5th, 2017 at 9:19:59 AM permalink
if you use curl -vv you can see that the biggest delay is waiting for the TLS Client Handshake.

* TLSv1.2 (OUT), TLS handshake, Client hello (1):

That takes many seconds.
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October 5th, 2017 at 11:49:17 AM permalink
Just reporting my experience: that every action on this site requires more than one minute and sometimes several minutes. WOV site is currently unusable (for me.)
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OnceDear
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October 5th, 2017 at 12:04:02 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Just reporting my experience: that every action on this site requires more than one minute and sometimes several minutes. WOV site is currently unusable (for me.)

What he said !
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October 5th, 2017 at 12:09:46 PM permalink
Horrible lately! I've come to this site multiple times a day for the last 8 years. Makes me not want to try.


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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
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October 5th, 2017 at 12:54:44 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Horrible lately! I've come to this site multiple times a day for the last 8 years. Makes me not want to try.


ZCore13



Same here except 4 years. Participants dropping like flies, guys. Please fix the load issue.

Tried 4 page loads. 3 timed out at least once. All took more than 1 min. Laterz...
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October 5th, 2017 at 1:17:43 PM permalink
Can anyone reccomend another gambling forum?
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October 5th, 2017 at 1:28:01 PM permalink
hope this helps
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/all-other/29416-site-under-ddos-attack/14/#post608992

Error!: SQLSTATE[HY000] [2002] No such file or directory.
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October 5th, 2017 at 2:12:31 PM permalink
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October 5th, 2017 at 2:17:07 PM permalink
Just clicked back to the site and got a message stating the site was unsafe and attackers might try to get my info. But it's moving faster now though.
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October 5th, 2017 at 2:17:50 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Can anyone reccomend another gambling forum?

*Rolls eyes
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 5th, 2017 at 2:21:58 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

*Rolls eyes


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October 5th, 2017 at 2:39:14 PM permalink
Nearly spoke too soon.... I was going to say "Apart from the fact that ssl cert isn't working, site is apparently responding ok at the moment. Clearly we are in the midst of some diagnosis experiment. Patience guys."

But then failed to connect again.
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October 5th, 2017 at 6:12:31 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Can anyone reccomend another gambling forum?

Yes. I recommend another gambling forum.
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October 5th, 2017 at 6:46:05 PM permalink
Can we get a response from someone that runs the site concerning the speed? If anyone has posted about that I've missed it. A estimation of the time it would be fixed or even a acknowledgement that it's being worked on would help.
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October 5th, 2017 at 8:37:28 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Currently almost totally unworkable, replying to posts without first copying to clipboard is like russian roulette with 5 bullets.



If the site were a neck, I'd have to assume we're being strangled -- but slowly. Little oxygen, then strangle.
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October 5th, 2017 at 9:58:12 PM permalink
It seems decent right now. But early this morning (like 3-4pm) it was terribly slow and oftentimes the page wouldn't load.
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October 5th, 2017 at 10:59:07 PM permalink
I had problems yesterday and today (until 6 pm ET). Working fine now (11 pm ET).

I'm used to slow connections (grew up before 110 baud), so spend a few minutes on other websites (or watch TV) in between all my WoV actions.
it's nit to do things in REAL-TIME...like now, when the site is working.
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October 6th, 2017 at 6:44:25 AM permalink
Quote: mamat

I'm used to slow connections (grew up before 110 baud)...



No problem with slow connections here also. Haven't heard reference to 110 baud in close to forever. But, my 1978 suitcase-size terminal with telephone cradle and thermal paper (no video screen) was durn exciting in its day.

I'm sure the Admins are doing their best to get WoV problems fixed. No one said fixing everything would be easy or quickly done. I appreciate those posts where members report specifics (like TLS delays and character-set problems) that help me (and hopefully also help the Admins).

Another possible vector for the WoV computer problems:

I was very involved in computer security in the 1990s (up through Y2K), and frequently attended a variety of security-oriented briefings. I recall one IBM presenter who was an international security wizard. He commented that some eastern European countries trained computer students to hack into network systems and the then-nascent Internet world. Student's grades depended on the degree to which they compromised someone's computer system. Even recently a professor at the University of Michigan testified to Congress that he and his students hacked into numerous less-than-secure state voting systems (not to disrupt, but to alert election officials).

Most folks realize there is currently an ongoing international cyber-war, where it's everybody against everybody. I'd like to suggest that the WoV problems may be compounded by unknown, external third-party interferrence, whether it's a foreign power trying to affect Amazon or whether it is some student trying to impress her/his professor. Our Admins might never know. It's a jungle out there.
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October 6th, 2017 at 6:58:42 AM permalink
Quote: Mikey75

Can we get a response from someone that runs the site concerning the speed? If anyone has posted about that I've missed it. A estimation of the time it would be fixed or even a acknowledgement that it's being worked on would help.



Jokingly: Maybe they can't get on the site to respond?

Seriously: This is a good point. To repeat: Can we get a response from someone that runs the site concerning the speed? An estimation of the time it would be fixed or even an acknowledgement that it's being worked on would help.

It seems like Babs and Mission are the only admins that have even posted on the site for the past month. (Maybe Face has posted occasionally?) Why are the Wizard and J.B. absent? What is going on? Has the WOV forum had a zombie apocalypse?
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