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Ibeatyouraces
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September 18th, 2017 at 10:41:24 AM permalink
It's been normal so far the last two days.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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September 18th, 2017 at 10:47:47 AM permalink
Gordon,

RE: Picks Game

For that exact reason, I included my E-Mail addy in both Picks reminders PM's, including the one from Week 1. Feel free to grab my E-Mail from that PM and E-Mail your Week 3 Picks to me if you are concerned about ability to connect. Indeed, other players have availed themselves of this option.

We should be on the new servers by Week 4. When the transition is complete, the next reminder PM after that will request Picks NOT be E-Mailed.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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September 18th, 2017 at 10:55:30 AM permalink
For a while this morning, I instantly got a plain screen that said maintenance was being performed.

Now, it takes just a very acceptable ~2 seconds to load pages.
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September 18th, 2017 at 11:13:01 AM permalink
Mission:

Yes, and I was aware of that but I couldn't access the WOV site to read the PMs with your email addy! I have since written your email addy down, LOL. But I will also need to access the WOV site (from the Carribean) to read the lines you post on Thursdays. I think Week 4 is the timeframe I am in the Carribean, so maybe the access issues will be resolved soon enough. That is the schedule info I was seeking, thank you.
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September 18th, 2017 at 12:42:50 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

It's been normal so far the last two days.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

For a while this morning, I instantly got a plain screen that said maintenance was being performed.

Now, it takes just a very acceptable ~2 seconds to load pages.

I have encountered some annoying delays for a few weeks, but in contrast to what IBYA posted, I found that yesterday (Sunday 9/17) was by far the worst that I have experienced. Sometimes, I could not get onto the site at all, and when I could, it took ten minutes or more to get a page to load. The site was essentially unusable from my perspective.

However, today I have seen just what DJTB reported: an announcement (apparently from JB) that maintenance was being performed and that the site would return soon, followed a bit later by a site with much speedier responsiveness. I don't know what the "maintenance" consisted of, but it certainly seems to have been effective.
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September 18th, 2017 at 2:15:35 PM permalink
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The site seems to be running great for me today. I'm guessing it might have been moved to the Amazon server.



Amazon? As in Jeff Bezos' Amazon?
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Mission146
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September 18th, 2017 at 2:28:34 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Mission:

Yes, and I was aware of that but I couldn't access the WOV site to read the PMs with your email addy! I have since written your email addy down, LOL. But I will also need to access the WOV site (from the Carribean) to read the lines you post on Thursdays. I think Week 4 is the timeframe I am in the Carribean, so maybe the access issues will be resolved soon enough. That is the schedule info I was seeking, thank you.



You made Week 1 Picks, so I'd assumed you read that PM, sorry if I'm mistaken. My lines come from:

www.vegasinsider.com

I always post the lines at some point Thursday, so if you take them down Thursday, preferably evening, they shouldn't have changed much. If you want to shoot me an E-Mail, I'll also be happy to E-Mail you the official lines until such time as this us 100% resolved.

You're welcome, sorry about all the trouble.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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September 18th, 2017 at 2:51:44 PM permalink
Quote: Face

Amazon? As in Jeff Bezos' Amazon?


They've had cloud web services for a couple years now:

https://aws.amazon.com
Joeman
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September 18th, 2017 at 5:27:57 PM permalink
I have noticed that the VP trainers over on WoO have been down for the last 3-4 days. When I go to the site, I get this:

Quote: wizardofodds.com/play/video-poker/single-hand/

Sorry, an error has occurred on our end. The error has been logged and will be reviewed.
In the meantime, please try your request again if you haven't already.
If you continue to see this screen, rest assured that the problem will be investigated and fixed soon.


Can I assume the server switch will fix this problem as well?
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September 18th, 2017 at 8:20:07 PM permalink
My forum signature used to be "if I don't write things down, I tend to forget them". I do forget them and dont have them available if I need them. I would have written down the email somewhere safe or put it in my contacts list. Other than keeping a copy somewhere, usually good glancing at your notes so you can keep them in mind.


Can't blame the site for a lack of personal preparedness. If you can't get on, have to try later or try another device. I'd go to the library if I had to to be sure and check if they worked.
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September 19th, 2017 at 7:29:58 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

For a while this morning, I instantly got a plain screen that said maintenance was being performed.

Now, it takes just a very acceptable ~2 seconds to load pages.



Yes some visitors were getting this auto message during the migration process which was finished yesterday.


Quote: Joeman

I have noticed that the VP trainers over on WoO have been down for the last 3-4 days. When I go to the site, I get this:


Can I assume the server switch will fix this problem as well?



this was fixed and all games s/b working now. Please do let us know if you encounter more issues.

Cheers
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BleedingChipsSlowly
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September 19th, 2017 at 8:56:28 AM permalink
On the https://wizardofvegas.com/forums/ page, COMMUNITY INFORMATION - CURRENTLY ACTIVE MEMBERS always lists "No registered members are currently online"
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Ibeatyouraces
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September 19th, 2017 at 1:04:54 PM permalink
The site is very slow again right now. And sometimes not loading again as well.
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DJTeddyBear
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September 19th, 2017 at 1:28:31 PM permalink
Things a super slow again. :(
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September 19th, 2017 at 1:34:13 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Things a super slow again. :(

Onnsecond thought, it seems like a temporary thing. We're speedy again. :)
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September 19th, 2017 at 3:00:43 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Quote: DJTeddyBear

Things a super slow again. :(

Onnsecond thought, it seems like a temporary thing. We're speedy again. :)

Yep, there seems to be quite an inconsistency today. I had a bear of a time making this simple post.
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September 19th, 2017 at 3:18:40 PM permalink
The connection reminds me of two tin cans and a string.
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September 19th, 2017 at 3:50:31 PM permalink
Connecting to this site is almost as slow as getting paid by an online casino.
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September 19th, 2017 at 4:22:44 PM permalink
Fast earlier today, slow now. About 1:15 to load initially.

I am no longer getting notified of new PMs, but it appeared possibly partly responsible for some slow loads, so perhaps it was disabled.

Not seeing who is currently online, either by the lit bug on the avatar or on the forum home page. Perhaps another disabled feature to speed up the load?
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September 20th, 2017 at 5:16:15 PM permalink
Hmmmmmmm.....

Speedy, but we got a couple spam posts for the first time in a while.

Coincidence?????
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September 20th, 2017 at 6:29:44 PM permalink
Lightning fast on my desktop, not so good on my Fire tablets.
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September 20th, 2017 at 7:14:58 PM permalink
Pretty slow on my iPhone twelve for a few pages but now it's faster I think.
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September 20th, 2017 at 7:59:46 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

And my original post was not a complaint in any case. After being denied access for 48 hours I immediately went to this thread and reported that I had been unable to log-in for 48 hours (without reading the status reports that had just been posted in the last 48 hours about the Denial of Service situation.) I was simply trying to be a "solid citizen" of the forum and report my access issue -nothing more. That's why I was astonished when Rsactuary played "helicopter mom" and posted that I should stop "berating the moderators." And I remain astonished. Forum members must certainly be allowed to post a brief note to the mods stating that they are continuing to have denial of access issues without Rsactuary playing self-appointed politeness cop.



Good attempt at re-writing history, but I'm having none of it. Let's revisit your original post, shall we?

Quote: gordonm888

Yesterday (Sept 15) the delays I experienced when logging in or clicking on a thread were extremely long (>10 minutes) and this persisted all day long. I had no problems with other sites - just WOV. Obviously, I gave up on WOV that day. No sense having a site if visitors cannot log on and move around within a reasonable time.



I see nothing wrong in reporting the issues you're having as that can sometimes help narrow down the source of the issue. But if you go back to my response, you'll see that I didn't quote that part of your post. I quoted just the last sentence... "No sense having a site if visitors cannot log on and move around within a reasonable time.". In my opinion, this comment was inappropriate and a slap in the face to the administrators of this site who work so hard to keep it going on a day to day basis. I suspect (but don't know for sure) that some or most of them are doing it on a gratis basis. For you to take a swipe at them when they have indicated that they are working to resolve the problem is inappropriate and childish in my opinion. And you can call me any name you want ( water off a duck's back), but I'm happy to swoop in and defend them EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. against someone that is showing no respect or gratitude for the work they do. If you're paying a subscription every month to be here.. you have a valid point.. but I doubt that you are.

Quote: Homelessnyc

You will learn quick here the rules aren't equally enforced here.

9 times out of 10 as long as you don't tell some one to f off or provide a valid point against the leftist agenda you will be fine.



And this is nonsense.
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September 20th, 2017 at 10:38:29 PM permalink
In case people unaware or cares,the site address www.wizardofvegas.com is down/unavailable. I only just discovered the forums were available after searching.
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September 21st, 2017 at 3:36:15 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

In case people unaware or cares,the site address www.wizardofvegas.com is down/unavailable. I only just discovered the forums were available after searching.


Its simple: go to google and do a search for wizardofvegas and click on that search result.
Dreamsomething lists it as unavailable
It has to propagate its way thru the dns server network.

Thanks to all the Green Inkers for their hard work.
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September 22nd, 2017 at 6:53:22 AM permalink
Quote: Zuga

Please do let us know if you encounter more issues.

Cheers
Zuga



Z,

I still do not get email alerts when threads I subscribe to receive new posts. Is this still on the "list of issues" you are fixing?
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September 22nd, 2017 at 9:06:34 AM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

I quoted just the last sentence... "No sense having a site if visitors cannot log on and move around within a reasonable time.". In my opinion, this comment was inappropriate and a slap in the face to the administrators of this site who work so hard to keep it going on a day to day basis. I suspect (but don't know for sure) that some or most of them are doing it on a gratis basis. For you to take a swipe at them when they have indicated that they are working to resolve the problem is inappropriate and childish in my opinion.




1. I respect, and am personally impressed with, all of the moderators of this forum. I bear them all good will and I recognize that they have been victimized by this DDOS attack as much or more than the forum members.

2. My statement "No sense having a site if visitors cannot log on and move around within a reasonable time." is neither nasty nor mean-spirited. It is a simple truth, fairly stated in what was intended as a polite tone.

I have posted some quality material on this site in the past and thus I would prefer that this site be healthy and have a growing membership. This DDOS attack issue has persisted for weeks and I am concerned that its persistence will damage the health of the WOV forums. It would sadden me if that happened. I was expressing that concern. It is delusional for anyone to claim that I need to be a "paid subscriber" to the site in order to justify expressing a concern.

3. I have not been closely following the DDOS issue. I do not know how the sites are being transported to Amazon -whether its being performed by Wizard and J.B. or by other Mods or by paid contractors or by Amazon staff. I have no idea if lawyers are involved and slowing down the process. I have no idea whether transport of the WOV forums has been given a high priority or a low priority vs the transport of the WOO site. I do not know whether technical difficulties have arisen. But I do know this: there are billions of alternative ways to spend life that are more fun than trying to get on a site repeatedly for long periods of time and being denied. Eventually, the activity on the WOV forum will decline if this issue persists, if it has not done so already. That statement is not an attack on the Amazon staff or the legal staff or the subcontractors or the moderators.

4. The WOV Forum is not a church at which the members are required to worship the mods and constantly praise them. And, Rsactuary, you are not a priest in such a church. I object to your treating me as a heretic for making simple statements of concern about the current difficulties.
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September 22nd, 2017 at 7:57:58 PM permalink
The people of this site can interpret your response however they wish. For me.... QED.
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September 22nd, 2017 at 8:17:13 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

For me.... QED.



To quote someone... this is nonsense
rsactuary
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September 22nd, 2017 at 9:13:16 PM permalink
Quote: Homelessnyc

To quote someone... this is nonsense



to quote myself... "water off a duck's back"
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September 22nd, 2017 at 10:40:57 PM permalink
Quite honestly, the delay in connection turned me away from the site for about a week. When you cannot connect to a site or a forum takes a minute to load it becomes not worth my time to read forums or post. And the problems with this site has been persisting for a very long time.

As admins, my concern wouldn't be for the long-termers like myself but for the newcomers who are likely to click on links and to generate revenue for you. With the forums being unreadable, it's a revenue loss over time that probably outweighs significantly the PiTA of moving to another server.
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September 23rd, 2017 at 12:25:43 AM permalink
Quote: LuckyPhow

Z,

I still do not get email alerts when threads I subscribe to receive new posts. Is this still on the "list of issues" you are fixing?



Have you checked the junk email? I noticed some of my PM notification ended there. We havent moved the email notifications yet to the amazon, that will be done next week.
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September 23rd, 2017 at 5:27:24 AM permalink
Quote: Zuga

Have you checked the junk email? I noticed some of my PM notification ended there. We havent moved the email notifications yet to the amazon, that will be done next week.

The last thread posting notification I received was sent 2017-09-07 00:06. I set the sending server ds7791.dreamservers.com as whitelisted years ago. No further connections have been recieved from that server, not even failed/dropped ones.

This site seems to now be sending mail from ec2-52-53-134-166.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com. The first connection I see was on 2017-09-18 11:24. That and subsequent connections have been rejected because the sending domain is missing DNS records. I have whitelisted the new server and will let you know if that allows receiving notifications in spite of the flagged DNS problem. Even if it does though, I don't think most folks here can make that adjustment: it requires controlling your own mail servers.

btw, the wizardofvegas.com domain MX record is set to mail.wizardofvegas.com, and that name does not translate to an IP address using my provider's nor Google's (8.8.8.8) DNS servers. Also, the sending address, previously wizardofodds@ds7791.dreamservers.com, is now seen as www-data@ip-172-31-2-75.

The last rejected notification was sent 2017-09-21 12:56. Since I haven't received others since then, perhaps settings have changed since then?
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September 23rd, 2017 at 7:55:10 AM permalink
Hello everyone. So nice to be back on the site. Thank you for your patience.

I would like to give a big "thank all" the technical wizards on the Wizard team who helped with the move to a new server, which I'm sure was not easy. This is my first post in about a month. I am currently in Cincinnati on my last day of my second trip to the northern midwest this year. That kept me too busy to post all last week. The week before I could see the site was up but my Internet service was too slow to get a post in before I got timed out. Guess my Internet connection is slower than I thought.
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BleedingChipsSlowly
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September 23rd, 2017 at 8:33:54 AM permalink
A notification for the last post was sent from server ec2-52-53-134-166.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com, which I have whitelisted, but the connection was immediately dropped due to missing DNS records for the sending domain. Any forum member who's mail service includes some type of spam filtering at the server will probably be affected the same way. That is, the communication is terminated on initial connection and mail is never received: you will not find it in your junk folder in this case.

Other than that, nice to see you back, Mike!
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September 23rd, 2017 at 10:46:23 AM permalink
Welcome back Wiz. So, is the WOV forum now on the new Amazon site and should we expect to no longer experience the delays?
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September 23rd, 2017 at 6:01:10 PM permalink
Quote: Zuga

Have you checked the junk email? I noticed some of my PM notification ended there.



Ummm... Checked my Spam folder. Nothing there.
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September 24th, 2017 at 9:26:12 AM permalink
Quote: LuckyPhow

Ummm... Checked my Spam folder. Nothing there.



I just started getting PM Notification E-Mails yesterday, will send you a test PM.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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September 24th, 2017 at 9:54:19 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I just started getting PM Notification E-Mails yesterday, will send you a test PM.



I replied a few minutes ago. Hope you get my reply, as there's a bit more to the story, don'cher know.
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September 25th, 2017 at 10:43:23 AM permalink
PM notification while on the site have returned for me. Thanks, guys
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September 27th, 2017 at 8:30:30 PM permalink
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

A notification for the last post was sent from server ec2-52-53-134-166.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com, which I have whitelisted, but the connection was immediately dropped due to missing DNS records for the sending domain. Any forum member who's mail service includes some type of spam filtering at the server will probably be affected the same way. That is, the communication is terminated on initial connection and mail is never received: you will not find it in your junk folder in this case.



I still do not receive email announcements of new PMs or new posts to subscribed threads, and haven't since 7-Sep. My mail service does filter spam. If WoV emails for these functions do not provide sufficient information to distinguish them from spam, then that could keep me from receiving those emails. However, everything worked properly before the DDOS attack(s) and network transition. Also, my system configuration has remained unchanged for close to forever.

BCS, is this problem fixed for you? Or, are you still not receiving these emails?

Any others out there who have this problem? Hard to believe I might be the only member with this problem. But, if this problem is unique to me, then I need to talk to my email service provider.

Comments, anyone?
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September 28th, 2017 at 3:04:25 AM permalink
Not fixed, latest aborted connection to my service is dated 2017-09-26 21:17. The problem noted is still missing DNS records that should be supplied by the sending domain for the sending server. A "best practice" for mail servers is to assume sending servers are hijacked if certain DNS records are missing.
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September 28th, 2017 at 9:03:47 AM permalink
Just messaged zuga. There's a character storage/encoding issue. Pound symbol, and presumably other non-ascii characters getting messed up, at least in new blog posts. let's see if they fail here too.

pound £
dollar $
euro €
apostrophe ;
ampersand &
e with a wotsit on top é
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September 28th, 2017 at 9:04:44 AM permalink
yup. non ascii getting presented wrongly. mysql database structure wrong?
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September 28th, 2017 at 9:09:03 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Just messaged zuga. There's a character storage/encoding issue. Pound symbol, and presumably other non-ascii characters getting messed up, at least in new blog posts. let's see if they fail here too.

pound �£
dollar $
euro �
apostrophe ;
ampersand &
e with a wotsit on top �©


I'll try from Android:

Pound £
Dollar $
Euro �
Apostrophe '
Ampersand &
e with a wotsit (and others) on top �����èéêë�
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September 28th, 2017 at 2:27:33 PM permalink
It's still really slow for me. I'm also getting no notifications to subscribed post. I have received notifications of pm's though. Will the speed ever improve or is it a by product of the new server?
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September 28th, 2017 at 5:26:21 PM permalink
I think the site response time issue is resolved in general. I just set my VPN proxy to Singapore and while response is slower it is still good. Your particular case of slowness might be caused by the service you use or the equipment you have.

We are stuck with the failure to get subscription post notifications and character encoding problems until they are fixed.
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LuckyPhow
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September 28th, 2017 at 6:16:34 PM permalink
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

I think the site response time issue is resolved in general.



Perhaps.

When I logged on this morning (8am ET, 5am NV), the system responded quickly. Noticeably more sluggish now.
Mikey75
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September 29th, 2017 at 9:11:10 AM permalink
Quote: LuckyPhow

Perhaps.

When I logged on this morning (8am ET, 5am NV), the system responded quickly. Noticeably more sluggish now.



Same issue I am having. One time it's good the next time it's slow. I'm on a iPhone 7 with good internet speed. Everything else loads good just this forum. Again sometimes it's better than others but it hasn't loaded fast in weeks.
LuckyPhow
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October 1st, 2017 at 6:15:15 PM permalink
Quote: LuckyPhow

I still do not receive email announcements of new PMs or new posts to subscribed threads, and haven't since 7-Sep.



Whoa! Stop the presses!

At about 3:30 pm (LV time) today (1-Oct) I began receiving announcements of new posts to subscribed threads. I hope all the problems have been found and repaired. Thanx to the Admins -- and any others -- who engineered whatever fixes were required.

Hopefully, everyone else is now getting email alerts of PMs and thread updates.
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