2016 Election -- Part II
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119 members have voted
Quote: MichaelBluejayWhich one was the fact?
All of it.
Quote: MaxPenClinton has cancelled all campaign appearances in FL, OH, and NC. This is epic. Wonder how soon she will be heading out to Qatar for asylum.
MaxPen posted this yesterday.
Today Hillary campaigned in Florida.
Will MaxPen admit he lied (again)?
Doubtful.
It's not a lie if he believes it.Quote: ams288Will MaxPen admit he lied (again)?
Frankly, I'd prefer that he was merely lying vs. the fact that he actually believes all this stuff -- him and millions of others like him. When people are *that* detached from reality, that's a threat to the republic, and to humanity itself.
It's also hard to avoid the personal insult rule in the face of such extreme ridiculousness. If someone claimed, in all seriousness, that Trump just rode unicorns with Elvis, the only reasonable response is incredulity that someone would believe something that absurd. Some things are just so extreme it's impossible to tiptoe around them.
And actually, if I say that MaxPen believes things that he himself stated he believes, that's technically an insult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8eBmmEi6wE
Quote: ams288MaxPen posted this yesterday.
Today Hillary campaigned in Florida.
Will MaxPen admit he lied (again)?
Doubtful.
What's a little disinfo, on an obscure message unpolitically related, amongst friends hurt. You don't see me getting all upset when you spread it around. It's called fun.
The one fact that is proving to be undeniable is as follows; Hillary has soso many scandals that a flowchart is needed to keep it all straight. Yet she still has diehards defending her criminal ass.
Quote: MaxPenWhat's a little disinfo, on an obscure message unpolitically related, amongst friends hurt. You don't see me getting all upset when you spread it around.
When have I spread disinformation around like you constantly do?
I take that as a personal insult.
I'd like specific examples. Quote the posts.
Quote: ams288When have I spread disinformation around like you constantly do?
I take that as a personal insult.
I'd like specific examples. Quote the posts.
If that's considered a personal insult (and MaxPen suspended), then you're guilty of the same thing. And I'd be willing to lay some long odds MaxPen would care about his suspension significantly less than you would.
Quote: ams288When have I spread disinformation around like you constantly do?
I take that as a personal insult.
I'd like specific examples. Quote the posts.
I don't have the time for people who insult me by calling me a "liar", because you found one thing out of dozens of posts that turned out to be non factual.
Quote: ams288When have I spread disinformation around like you constantly do?
I take that as a personal insult.
I'd like specific examples. Quote the posts.
I don't have the time for people who insult me by calling me a "liar", because you found one thing out of dozens of posts that turned out to be non factual.
Quote: RSIf that's considered a personal insult (and MaxPen suspended), then you're guilty of the same thing.
No I'm not.
I live in reality. I post links. I quote reporters' tweets.
MaxPen constantly spews conspiracy theory nonsense and lies and claims he can't post links for some reason.
Quote: MaxPenI don't have the time for people who insult me by calling me a "liar", because you found one thing out of dozens of posts that turned out to be non factual.
So you got nothing.
I guess we can attribute you saying I spread disinformation as just another MaxPen lie...
Quote: ams288In his defense, AZDuffman and EvenBob seem to have abandoned this thread after the Trump campaign s**t the bed with the Access Hollywood tape.
I wouldn't say the Trump campaign s&:t the bed. Sometimes when projecting future events one's statement can be proven wrong at a later time. Your statement above doesn't make you a "liar". It just makes you wrong on that particular statement.
Quote: ams288So you got nothing.
I guess we can attribute you saying I spread disinformation as just another MaxPen lie...
Considering most of your posts are attempts to belittle your opposition it would just take to much effort to find something to put forth. I am at peace with you calling me a "liar". My wish is that you can find peace within yourself towards anyone who has a differing opinion than you. Everyone sees the world with a different set of eyes.
Quote: MaxPenI wouldn't say the Trump campaign s&:t the bed.
I would.
Quote:Sometimes when projecting future events one's statement can be proven wrong at a later time. Your statement above doesn't make you a "liar". It just makes you wrong on that particular statement.
You provided no evidence that my statement was wrong here other than you claiming it was.... and we all know how much your word is good for.
Quote: MaxPenI wouldn't say the Trump campaign s&:t the bed. Sometimes when projecting future events one's statement can be proven wrong at a later time. Your statement above doesn't make you a "liar". It just makes you wrong on that particular statement.
He was incorrect. We abandoned the thread because it got to the point of feeling like discussing things with a bunch of children. Far better ways to waste my evenings.
Quote: AZDuffmanHe was incorrect. We abandoned the thread because it got to the point of feeling like discussing things with a bunch of children. Far better ways to waste my evenings.
Welcome back!
Quote: ams288Welcome back!
Yeh...it's getting exciting in here. In one corner you have Trump supposedly being brought down by a pussy and Hillary being brought down by a weiner. You can't make this stuff up.
Wow! Look at that. More than 1/3 of undecided's less likely to vote for Hillary as a result of the continued investigations. Massive move. I had Trump at 40% chance of winning this election, (only because of how well Hillary's camp plays the game). I now think it's a 50/50 race.
Trump decidedly out in front by Thursday?
Quote: ams288I would
Google "pathological lying" and tell me what you see.
Quote: MaxPenGoogle "pathological lying" and tell me what you see.
This one made the news within hours.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/30/hillary-clinton-photo-illustrates-pathological-lyi/
Ams288 claims this comes up https://wizardofvegas.com/member/maxpen/Quote: MaxPenGoogle "pathological lying" and tell me what you see.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/sportsmockery/status/792938664036802560/video/1
Quote: AxelWolfAms288 claims this comes up https://wizardofvegas.com/member/maxpen/
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I'm just waiting to see if max and ams take each other out like gandalf and that monster thingy. Somehow it seems like Max is gandalf/the good guy in this one?
A month ago you said Trump would win in a landslide. Were you lying then or now?Quote: MaxPenI had Trump at 40% chance of winning this election, (only because of how well Hillary's camp plays the game). I now think it's a 50/50 race.
Quote: mcallister3200I'm just waiting to see if max and ams take each other out like gandalf and that monster thingy. Somehow it seems like Max is gandalf/the good guy in this one?
YOU SHALL NOT PASS!
Quote: AxelWolfAms288 claims this comes up https://wizardofvegas.com/member/maxpen/
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Beat me to it.
Quote: MichaelBluejayA month ago you said Trump would win in a landslide. Were you lying then or now?
A month ago I said Hillary Clinton will win in a landslide. Now I am saying she is just going to win in a close race. I do not believe I was lying either time. Time will tell which of my predictions is correct. Or if neither of my predictions are correct. If you use the word lying to characterize someone who makes an incorrect prediction, I think I am a liar then 52% of the time on my even money football bets......
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: MichaelBluejayA month ago you said Trump would win in a landslide. Were you lying then or now?
A month ago I said Hillary Clinton will win in a landslide. Now I am saying she is just going to win in a close race. I do not believe I was lying either time. Time will tell which of my predictions is correct. Or if neither of my predictions are correct. If you use the word lying to characterize someone who makes an incorrect prediction, I think I am a liar then 52% of the time on my even money football bets......
The thing is no one seems to have a clear definition of what "landslide" is.
I've maintained from the start that Donald Trump would never be President. But I've been hesitant to say Hillary will win in a "landslide."
After the Access Hollywood tape came out I thought red states like AZ and GA would be in play. AZ still seems to be, but GA does not. In fact, Hillary could win AZ and still lose more traditional swing states like Iowa and Ohio.
David Plouffe, who knows more about this stuff than any of us, says this:
Quote: @davidplouffeClinton path to 300+ rock solid. Structure of race not affected by Comey's reckless irresponsibility. Vote and volunteer, don't fret or wet
Steve Schmidt, John McCain's 2008 campaign manager, says she will no longer get close to 400 EV as she would have a week or so ago, but will get somewhere between 338 and 350 electoral votes.
Despite emails, Republicans still think Trump will lose. Here’s why.
It is obvious to me that you are parodying Trump's hate speech about Mexicans from the day he declared with your signature :
Quote:On Trump supporters: They’re anti-Semites. They’re neo-Nazis. They’re racists. And some, I assume, are good people.
Hate speech does not justify more hate speech. Your point has been made, and you are offending other members with this. I would have said this to you privately, but you have your PM'S turned off, so it will have to be public. Please change your signature today. Thank you.
Quote: beachbumbabsams288,
It is obvious to me that you are parodying Trump's hate speech about Mexicans from the day he declared with your signature :
Hate speech does not justify more hate speech. Your point has been made, and you are offending other members with this. I would have said this to you privately, but you have your PM'S turned off, so it will have to be public. Please change your signature today. Thank you.
What BBB said.
Quote: beachbumbabsams288,
It is obvious to me that you are parodying Trump's hate speech about Mexicans from the day he declared with your signature :
Hate speech does not justify more hate speech. Your point has been made, and you are offending other members with this. I would have said this to you privately, but you have your PM'S turned off, so it will have to be public. Please change your signature today. Thank you.
Interesting.
I was offended by mcallister3200 calling me the Balrog from LotR earlier, but I'm sure he'll walk scot-free for that one.
Quote: ams288Interesting.
I was offended by mcallister3200 calling me the Balrog from LotR earlier, but I'm sure he'll walk scot-free for that one.
You sure seemed offended when you responded to his post.....rofl
Quote: RSYou sure seemed offended when you responded to his post.....rofl
Thank you. I was.
And you did get away scot free, with a polite warning, after months (years?, certainly not the only example) of tip toeing the insult line, making them broad enough to not specifically mention any members
Quote: mcallister3200I didn't specifically call anyone a balrog, please stop twisting other people's statements into something they didn't say. But then what would you do with your time?
Gimme a break.
Quote: mcallister3200I'm just waiting to see if max and ams take each other out like gandalf and that monster thingy. Somehow it seems like Max is gandalf/the good guy in this one?
Quote: MaxPen/g/page/politics/washington-post-abc-news-tracking-poll-october-25-28/2115/
Wow! Look at that. More than 1/3 of undecided's less likely to vote for Hillary as a result of the continued investigations. Massive move. I had Trump at 40% chance of winning this election, (only because of how well Hillary's camp plays the game). I now think it's a 50/50 race.
Trump decidedly out in front by Thursday?
If you really believe that, you'd be happy to know bovada is offering +225 on Trump.
Quote: MaxPenHuma is singing like a bird. Wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary step down within the next 48 hours.
Mind if I quote this post again 49 hours from now?
Quote: MaxPenHuma is singing like a bird. Wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary step down within the next 48 hours.
If she did all the early votes would be lost would they not?
Quote: ams288Thank you. I was.
Thank you for taking care of that. I appreciate it.
For my wallet's sake let's hope not. Want to double up on the bet and since you're so confident perhaps I should get some odds this time?Quote: MaxPenHuma is singing like a bird. Wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary step down within the next 48 hours.
Was Trump Tower Secretly Communicating with a Russian Bank?
I suspect once the election is over, we will learn a whole lot more about Trump and Russia...
Quote: AxelWolfFor my wallet's sake let's hope not. Want to double up on the bet and since you're so confident perhaps I should get some odds this time?
I am happy with everything the way it is..... ;-)
Quote:Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump bragged that his building was the tallest in New York City hours after the World Trade Center towers fell on Sept. 11, 2001.
Audio of the real estate mogul’s comments was obtained and published by Politico reporter Michael Kruse on Saturday. In the middle of a 10-minute conversation with local television station WWOR, Trump took the opportunity to plug his 71-story skyscraper located in the financial district, just blocks away from the doomed towers.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-9-11-bragged-towers_us_57d58b91e4b03d2d459aee98
Quote: rxwineTrump is such a class act.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-9-11-bragged-towers_us_57d58b91e4b03d2d459aee98
What does this really matter?
Quote: MichaelBluejayClinton's lead continues to narrow. RCP's polling average puts her up a mere 2.4 points: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
I trust FiveThirtyEight's model more.
I don't like that RCP gives equal weight to that crappy LA Times poll.
Quote: AZDuffmanWhat does this really matter?
Because it's more proof that Trump stands for literally nothing, and is hollow through and through.
You know he is going to make decisions for people where he won't be in front of a crowd one day and his own money won't be at stake and he will give as little s!#/ about his supporters as a fly smashed against his limo window.
And based on what he has done so far, he will deny and blame other people for almost everything.
Trump is a piece of s!#/. And Hillary may be right about his deplorable supporters.
Good Trump story...when there is one, you won't see it.
Good Hillary story...reported widely and always with some bad story about Trump as part of the package.
Bad Hillary story...always followed or led by a bad Trump story; that story is always somehow worse. They adjust the choice of story to make sure it is worse than the Hillary story.
Bad Trump...leads everything; usually with a good Hillary story added in for good measure.
I am not saying that Hillary is worse than Trump; that is for each of us to decide. I am saying, however, that the mainstream media is all in for Hillary.
