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ncfatcat
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January 9th, 2017 at 10:42:26 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Are you sentencing them to death?



Yes the unintended? consequence of running Government like a business - get rid of the poor, ill, disabled - in other words if you can't make a profit for your Government "YOU'RE FIRED"
Gambling is a metaphor for life. Hang around long enough and it's all gone.
777
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January 9th, 2017 at 10:53:28 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

Nothing like the significant sum that Paula Jones won.



I'm clueless about what you want express in one sentence. Come on, don't be a coward, just say what you want to say about Clinton. Don't be afraid, Clinton will not sue you for libel (Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer).

Trump is a racist, sexist, and rapist. Just say it.

If Ivana decides to re-litigate the rape charge, then Trumpís chance of conviction in the criminal court would vastly increase if Trumpís sex tape, and his many others public admissions are admissible evidences in court. With all the corroborating evidences, who would the jury believe (assuming Trumpers are not part of the jury panel): Ivana or Trump?
777
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January 9th, 2017 at 11:03:14 AM permalink
Quote: ncfatcat

Yes the unintended? consequence of running Government like a business - get rid of the poor, ill, disabled - in other words if you can't make a profit for your Government "YOU'RE FIRED"



Ultimately the tax payers will foot the bill for the uninsured one way or another. The smart thing is making healthcare affordable and health insurance mandatory with enforcement that has teeth.

It appears to me that the GOP leaded by Trump is leading us all to a very steep cliff.
ams288
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January 9th, 2017 at 11:12:52 AM permalink
I feel like it'd be easy to trick Donald into supporting Single Payer as long as it was just called TrumpCare.
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777
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January 9th, 2017 at 11:17:25 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

I feel like it'd be easy to trick Donald into supporting Single Payer as long as it was just called TrumpCare.



Trump has big ego. It would work.

And if it is called TrumpCare, will Trump give us (tax payer/government) a discount in using the licensed Trump name?
SanchoPanza
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January 9th, 2017 at 11:33:31 AM permalink
Quote: 777

I'm clueless about what you want express in one sentence. Come on, don't be a coward, just say what you want to say about Clinton. Don't be afraid, Clinton will not sue you for libel (Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer).

Trump is a racist, sexist, and rapist. Just say it.

If Ivana decides to re-litigate the rape charge, then Trumpís chance of conviction in the criminal court would vastly increase if Trumpís sex tape, and his many others public admissions are admissible evidences in court. With all the corroborating evidences, who would the jury believe (assuming Trumpers are not part of the jury panel): Ivana or Trump?

I'll say what I want to say, thank you. I'll even explain for people who can't recall or deal with recent history. Clinton's sexual escapades incurred court suits, federal investigations, perjury and almost $2 million in penalties, leaviing the family dead broke, according to his spouse. The baseless speculation about Ivana Trump is just continuing desperate fantasies about what a small segment of the population WISHES would occur. That is the definition of ill will.
777
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January 9th, 2017 at 12:02:38 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

After this morning, Jack Ma might just decide to buy BA.



Your mention of Jack Ma's Alibaba led me to this BABA story, and the subsequent comment of the story by a user:

The story link:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/alibaba-ceo-jack-ma-meets-164900109.html

The user's comment in the story's comment section:

Dear President Barack Obama...Happy New Year's to you and your beautiful family!!! CONGRATULATIONS on the Glendale 134 Freeway being renamed in your honor!!! Soon you will no longer be in office but I am already beginning to miss you. I just want to personally thank you for leaving us with a robust economy, a strong housing market, and an even stronger stock market! Thank you for visiting Japan and doing the right thing by apologizing for the atomic nuclear holocaust in Hiroshima and Nagasaki! Thank you for pushing for stricter gun laws to protect our nation from further mass shootings! Thank you for boosting the Stock Market after the 2008 recession thanks to Bush's invasion of the Middle East! Thank you for continuing to lower our gas prices! Thank you for increasing the minimum wage to help out those struggling families! Thank you for implementing the Affordable Care Act to help out 30 million uninsured Americans with pre-existing health conditions. Thank you for being a kind, compassionate man who stands up for those who have no voices like the Muslim-Americans, African-American males, and undocumented immigrants. I appreciate that we you killed Bin Laden, did NOT invade any Middle Eastern nation, and involved America in NO MORE FUTILE WARS! I greatly appreciate that you saved 1.2 million American jobs when you bailed out the auto industry unlike George W Bush who hemorrhaged 800,000 jobs a month just before you took office. PLEASE PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY NOW THAT DONALD TRUMP IS UNOFFICIALLY OUR PRESIDENT BY THE ELECTORAL VOTE AND NOT BY THE POPULAR VOTE. IT IS SUCH A SHAME THAT MR TRUMP IS ABOUT TO DESTROY AMERICA, BRING BACK TRICKLE-DOWN ECONOMICS, GIVE HUGE TAX CUTS TO THE WEALTHY, AND DEMOLISH THE MIDDLE CLASS BY RAISING OUR TAXES! .....You and your elegant wife are a such a class act who have made my life so much better and I will sincerely miss you both Mr. and Mrs. Obama!

Edit note: The commenter emphasized his/her comment in cap. This edit is to emphasize the comment's original emphasis in cap with bold emphasis.
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SOOPOO
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January 9th, 2017 at 12:23:44 PM permalink
Quote: 777

Letís not be confused between the court of law and the court of public opinion, especially the court of public opinion in a politically charged environment.

In the court of public opinion, any political candidate running for office could be one thing to one side and something else to the other based on individual or collective of evidences from public sources, and it is up to the voters to decide. My position of Trump as a racist, sexist, and rapist are based on collection of real evidences, but not the fake news or fabricated evidences. If there are evidences that show that Ivana's and the child's accusations were fabricated by them, then my position on Trump as a rapist will be re-evaluated accordingly.



I will say that Ivana's was a business move. The others are likely a combination of trying to get a rich man's money, and some inappropriate behavior on DJT's part. More likely the former. Nether you nor I can really know which is true. (I am only addressing the rapist part).

I think people throw around the racist word too much. I would like to find a man who is not sexist, depending on how broad you want to make your definition.
MathExtremist
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January 9th, 2017 at 12:46:13 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

I'll say what I want to say, thank you. I'll even explain for people who can't recall or deal with recent history. Clinton's sexual escapades incurred court suits, federal investigations, perjury and almost $2 million in penalties, leaviing the family dead broke, according to his spouse.

And Trump has ruined dozens of small businesses and currently owes over $5 million in unpaid labor costs to contractors who worked on renovating the hotel that the U.S. taxpayers are leasing to Trump. By any objective measurement, Trump has caused far more economic harm in his dealings than Clinton ever did. But that doesn't matter to you because you're not using objective measurements.

Help me understand your obsession with Bill Clinton. He was president two decades ago. Trump becomes president in less than two weeks. Why are you living in the past? Do you think that constantly deflecting to Clinton's sexual escapades over 20 years ago makes Trump's actions somehow forgivable? Does it make you feel better? There are lots of people who have done much worse stuff to women than Trump has done, and committed far worse frauds and breaches than Trump has done. But they're not the incoming president. Your continual deflection of the topic of Trump's acts onto Clinton's acts from 20 years ago tells me that, deep down, you're A-okay with Trump being an pervy old man. That's your cross to bear. I think it makes Americans look like buffoons, putting a lecher into office like that.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice." -- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
MathExtremist
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January 9th, 2017 at 12:58:03 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Please cite the reference where he was convicted of such crime? Please cite the reference where any jurisdiction has charged DJT with a sex crime?
If all you have is a buffoon bragging to a loser that he could do to women as he pleases, then yeah, he is a buffoon, but his babbling about it does make it true.
So, ME, if you want to say "anyone who would say what DJT said should not be President", it would be hard to argue with you. But to continually claim he ACTUALLY committed the crime is not necessarily true.

I'm not making the claim. These women are making the claim:
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/10/all-the-women-accusing-trump-of-rape-sexual-assault.html
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-and-the-truth-the-sexual-assault-allegations
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped/

Trump himself has admitted on numerous occasions to groping or fondling or leering at women, sometimes naked, often much younger than himself. If you believe all of those admissions are lies, how do you draw the line between those statements and the campaign promises that so many people believed to be true?

Yes, anyone who would say what DJT has said should not be President. And anyone who gives him a pass for saying that stuff doesn't reflect the values of our country.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice." -- Girolamo Cardano, 1563

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