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Joeshlabotnik
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October 27th, 2016 at 10:08:57 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

I voted today, and as I was voting for a Muslim in one race, I remembered how one member here who didn't understand my posts called me an Islamaphobe and said I hate all Muslims. Of course I'm not the only one here who says that member misunderstands their posts and puts words in their mouth.

And, no it's not because he was a Democrat -- it's a local race with no party affiliations.



I believe you're referring to me, and as I recall, I was reacting to a crazy assertion of yours that squllions of Muslims were seeking "to enter the US to practice Sharia law" and you cited some polls taken in places like Indonesia (?) to support that assertion.

Most of the things you've said since then have made much more sense than that, so if I misinterpreted your attitudes based on that slim evidence, I apologize. But we only have what people say here as evidence for what they believe.
Joeshlabotnik
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October 27th, 2016 at 10:13:33 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I guess it needs to be pointed out, that there is a difference between "nice guy" and acting like a "door mat."

Some guys don't know the difference and will tell you they've been acting like a nice guy whereas they have been a doormat.



And some guys who aren't inclined to be nice say that they aren't that way because they don't want to be doormats. When they aren't nice because they don't like being nice.

It's very reminiscent of people saying they'll continue to use racial slurs because they disdain "political correctness." Being nice doesn't mean you let yourself be walked on. But you know, being polite and basically decent DOES mean that you're willing to let yourself be taken advantage of on occasion rather than have your guard constantly up and a chip always on your shoulder.
Joeshlabotnik
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October 27th, 2016 at 10:17:33 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

Trump loves casinos. I thought this group would be behind him for sure, but it seems not.



Look at the poll results! It's almost 2-1 Trumpers. A random sampling of the population would be less than 50%. This group is overwhelmingly male, so that has a lot to do with it. There are very few completely dumb people here, though, which makes all the Trump-love a bit puzzling.

Though if you like casinos, you should dislike Trump quite a bit, since he builds them, guts them, and shuts them down. That's his bankruptcy-based Successful Businessjerk M.O.
tringlomane
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October 27th, 2016 at 11:15:50 PM permalink
Quote: Joeshlabotnik

Look at the poll results! It's almost 2-1 Trumpers. A random sampling of the population would be less than 50%. This group is overwhelmingly male, so that has a lot to do with it. There are very few completely dumb people here, though, which makes all the Trump-love a bit puzzling.

Though if you like casinos, you should dislike Trump quite a bit, since he builds them, guts them, and shuts them down. That's his bankruptcy-based Successful Businessjerk M.O.



The white and older person percentage might be higher here than the "average voter" as well. Dunno for sure, but I am thinking our active female forum members are all for Hillary. But depending on your definition of "active", that could be as few as one? I can only think of the the most obvious woman on the forum. MustangSally hasn't been too active lately...Hot Blonde? Nareed? (and many of the trumpers will call her a he) Who am I missing that used to be a regular? Just writing this out reminds me how much of a "boys' club" this place is. Hell, I used to post here a LOT more myself. Hell "Even Bob" stopped posting on this forum as well...I thought he would never quit!

But general bickering and less gambling discussion has made me and some other notable members a lot less active. I'm now much more active on forums where political discussion is expressly prohibited. Wizard tried to separate this discussion by starting "Diversity Tomorrow", but it failed because people still talked about it here and he didn't explicitly punish people for it because he still believes in "free speech", which is noble. However, constant political discussion helps drive this forum off course significantly. I also have a bad feeling it won't significantly tail off after November 8th either here.

P.S. And let the record show this terribly long thread that was forced into a Part II was started by a hard-core Republican now banned from this forum for his numerous insults toward others.
rxwine
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October 27th, 2016 at 11:34:28 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

I voted today, and as I was voting for a Muslim in one race, I remembered how one member here who didn't understand my posts called me an Islamaphobe and said I hate all Muslims



I don't know, that could be proof you really hate him, if you're trying to make him an American politician!

Americans often hold their politicians in lower regard than a snake belly.

heh.
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MichaelBluejay
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October 28th, 2016 at 11:02:30 AM permalink
You know that IBD poll that Trump supporters liked to quote about a week ago because it was the only reputable one showing a lead for Trump (only +1, but still a lead)? Well:

(1) IBD now shows a 3-point lead for Clinton.

(2) Trump supporters liked to say that the IBD poll was the "most accurate" of any poll over the last three election cycles. That's because they just swallowed whatever they read on some right-wing website without looking at the details.

. . . (a) First, it wasn't the most accurate in *each* of the last three cycles, no other poll was more accurate than it *on average*. There were other polls that were more accurate in the last cycle.

. . . (b) IBD wasn't the "most accurate", it's that "no other poll was more accurate", which is the way you have to describe it when there's a TIE for most accurate average. The other poll tied for most accurate over the last three cycles was Pew. And Pew shows Clinton at +7 now.

A week ago, Trump supporters were insistent that IBD mattered (and according to their numbers and logic, that by extension Pew mattered, also). But watch them suddenly dismiss IBD as unimportant/irrelevant now that it no longer shows their candidate winning. Definition of hypocrisy.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
mikeabiomed
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October 28th, 2016 at 11:04:53 AM permalink
Hillary FBI case re-opens minutes ago....Now what?
Reno Mike
crazydazy
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October 28th, 2016 at 11:29:27 AM permalink
Quote: mikeabiomed

Hillary FBI case re-opens minutes ago....Now what?



bovada has hillary at -300, trump at +200.

hillary at -300 is free money
ams288
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October 28th, 2016 at 12:00:51 PM permalink
Quote: mikeabiomed

Hillary FBI case re-opens minutes ago....Now what?



Republicans are acting like Christmas came early.

Meanwhile, in reality:

Quote: kurteichenwald

1. FBI not reopening the investigation.
2. Comey legally had 2 inform Congress, because he testified they had finished reviewing evidence,



Quote: kurteichenwald

Details of FBI: They found 3 emails that "might" be relevant to the case. None of them were withheld by Clinton.



3 emails! I'm shaking in my boots!
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Joeshlabotnik
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October 28th, 2016 at 12:06:55 PM permalink
Quote: mikeabiomed

Hillary FBI case re-opens minutes ago....Now what?



Now, nothing. Or at least a tale full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. All other considerations aside, this new investigation won't be even close to concluded by Election Day, at which point the political motivation for it will have become irrelevant.

Also, the public, Trumpers aside, really doesn't give a rat's rectum that Hillary sent emails.

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