docsjs
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March 28th, 2015 at 11:59:08 AM permalink
I went to the poker room at the Palm Beach Kennel Club and found that the rules had changed. The main change was you had to beat the dealer to get paid for a pairs plus bet as well as the ante bonus. What does that do to the house advantage for the game?
ShineyShine
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March 28th, 2015 at 12:12:11 PM permalink
Quote: docsjs

I went to the poker room at the Palm Beach Kennel Club and found that the rules had changed. The main change was you had to beat the dealer to get paid for a pairs plus bet as well as the ante bonus. What does that do to the house advantage for the game?



Did you still get paid on the Pair Plus bet if the dealer didn't qualify?
tringlomane
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March 29th, 2015 at 12:47:28 PM permalink
Quote: ShineyShine

Did you still get paid on the Pair Plus bet if the dealer didn't qualify?



I would hope so, otherwise the bet would be total garbage.

The rule of the dealer winning really hurts the pair plus. Probably puts a 1/3/6/30/40 paytable over 10% , but I haven't done the math. It will affect the ante bonus less. Straights or better losing doesn't happen too much.
miplet
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April 1st, 2015 at 8:22:08 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane


The rule of the dealer winning really hurts the pair plus. Probably puts a 1/3/6/30/40 paytable over 10% , but I haven't done the math.


I get over 14.88%. More than double the normal 7.28%.
HandW/T/LPaysWaysProbabilityReturn
StraightflushWin408832400.002169210.08676859
StraightflushTie01440.000000350.00000000
StraightflushLose-19680.00000238-0.00000238
TripsWin309547360.002344810.07034421
TripsTie000.000000000.00000000
TripsLose-133120.00000813-0.00000813
StraightWin6129764880.031869920.19121952
StraightTie0182880.000044910.00000000
StraightLose-12705040.00066435-0.00066435
FlushWin3189288200.046488690.13946608
FlushTie032880.000008080.00000000
FlushLose-112605960.00309599-0.00309599
PairWin1570947040.140223120.14022312
PairTie0112320.000027590.00000000
PairLose-1118735200.02916106-0.02916106
LoseLose-13028905600.74389140-0.74389140
Total4071704001.00000000-0.14880180


Quote: tringlomane

It will affect the ante bonus less. Straights or better losing doesn't happen too much

Using the 5/4/1 paytable: 0.0755457665881 %($1 for every $1323.70 you bet). You will get a losing or tied ante bonus about 1 in 1389 hands.
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miplet
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May 13th, 2015 at 2:22:50 AM permalink
This is my answer to this blog post. Wining ties lowers the house edge by about 0.13% and playing with no Ante bonus raises it by about 5.29% assuming the 1/4/5 pay table. Below is the pay table for the Pair Plus bet when you must tie or beat the dealer to get paid.

HandW/T/LPaysWaysProbabilityReturn
Mini RoyalWin200736840.000180970.03619320
Mini RoyalTie200120.000000030.00000589
StraightflushWin508095560.001988250.09941243
StraightflushTie501320.000000320.00001621
StraightflushLose-19680.00000238-0.00000238
TripsWin309547360.002344810.07034421
TripsTie3000.000000000.00000000
TripsLose-133120.00000813-0.00000813
StraightWin6129764880.031869920.19121952
StraightTie6182880.000044910.00026949
StraightLose-12705040.00066435-0.00066435
FlushWin4189288200.046488690.18595477
FlushTie432880.000008080.00003230
FlushLose-112605960.00309599-0.00309599
PairWin1570947040.140223120.14022312
PairTie1112320.000027590.00002759
PairLose-1118735200.02916106-0.02916106
LoseLose-13028905600.74389140-0.74389140
Total4071704001.00000000-0.08932367
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