seviay
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June 11th, 2011 at 3:11:30 PM permalink
Unless I missed it, I don't think there's a specific section about comps on this site. It might be useful for those living outside of the LV area for the more experienced of you to provide info on the best casinos on the strip and off-strip for comps. I know I would love discussions of various play levels, relative comps, etc. at the various strip properties. It would also be nice to see everyone talk about offers they receive from their players clubs or casinos they patronize

If there is a section talking about comps, I apologize for missing it.
HotBlonde
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June 11th, 2011 at 4:03:19 PM permalink
I like this idea!
OFFICIALLY and justifiably reclaimed my title as SuperHotBlonde!
gambler
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June 11th, 2011 at 6:41:10 PM permalink
I agree
vert1276
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June 12th, 2011 at 2:52:56 PM permalink
I agree good idea
kmcd
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September 29th, 2011 at 9:46:46 PM permalink
:) :)
vert1276
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September 29th, 2011 at 10:06:18 PM permalink
I agree the comp section on VMB is awesome...but we have better posters so...I think a comp section on this board would be the tits :)
gambler
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September 29th, 2011 at 11:20:17 PM permalink
I also think a comps section would be very helpful.
FleaStiff
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September 30th, 2011 at 12:32:21 AM permalink
A good deal of discussions about Comps seems to take place in the reviews and in threads regarding individual properties. It would indeed be more convenient to have a centralized discussion area which might allow someone to select a hotel/casino in relation to his intended action.

I recall one recent poster received a casino rate on his rooms for action that would have been fully comped in several other properties, but a less smokey atmosphere was a major deciding factor. Often spouses desires for rooms or spas affects casino choice. Yet one thing overall remains paramount: Free is real nice!

The two big players in town make their comps systems so complex its unfathomable. At local Indian casinos there is often a no comp policy: drinks are charged, meal comps are very rare.
Wizard
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September 30th, 2011 at 3:24:58 AM permalink
I would prefer to see discussion of that filed under each individual casino. Comps should be only one of many reasons to choose a particular casino.
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EvenBob
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September 30th, 2011 at 3:37:36 AM permalink
Comps are for chumps. I have no players
card for any casino. My wife does, but thats her
problem.
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RaleighCraps
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September 30th, 2011 at 7:07:04 AM permalink
A comps section has a distinct advantage over using the hotel section.

First, it puts all the information in one place, for simple viewing.
Harrahs and MGM have multiple properties, but each has their comp system under one umbrella. While there is some variation from property to property, the main gist of the program is not hotel specific.
Comp programs are dynamic. Casinos that were comping great 6 months ago, may be very tight today. That info would easily make it into a comps section, but is anyone going to bother putting it in a hotel report?
Right or wrong, comps does have influence on where one stays and plays. Why make someone go through 15 different hotel sections to sift through posts looking for recent comp info, if they could look one place for the most recent info?

No response required, just hoping for a second consideration of what seems to be a pretty good idea.
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kmcd
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September 30th, 2011 at 7:44:08 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I would prefer to see discussion of that filed under each individual casino. Comps should be only one of many reasons to choose a particular casino.



I think, Michael, that there is value in the centralized location as follows:

Certain AP techniques are designed to maximize comps, regardless of the casino. I think it would be interesting to hear discussions about these techniques without having to hunt through dozens of individual casino forums. What games do people play? What about the taxability of comps? How do you know when you're being rated? What are some of the factors that typically go into the rating?

I'll stop now before I turn this thread into a Q&A, but I think that comps is worth its own forum.
LowPingBoy
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September 30th, 2011 at 8:04:49 AM permalink
I agree. We currently have a solo source for evaluating BJ rules, Craps Odds, etc. for all of the casinos.

Sorry Wizzard, but to follow your reasoning the gaming information would be listed property by property as you suggest for comps, not collectively as it is. It's easy to compare BJ, it should be about as easy to compare comps.

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September 30th, 2011 at 8:44:39 AM permalink
The remarkably overcomplicated but knowledge-theoretically optimal solution is to remove the hierarchical structure of the forums and the threads/posts grouped within them and use tagging and categories instead. That way a post about comps at the Wynn would automatically show up in the "Wynn" bucket as well as the "Comps" bucket, and nobody would have to worry about where to put it. And then as conversations evolve, the tags can change from the initial set, alerting readers of a particular topic to the message even though the conversation started elsewhere.

Not that I expect the Wizard to completely re-architect his site, but there are ways around data organization problems like this.
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FleaStiff
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September 30th, 2011 at 8:58:01 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Comps should be only one of many reasons to choose a particular casino.

Clearly. And "comps" are ever changing and vague. Its not something that there can be a chart carried out to four decimal places. Look at one recent contributor, he admitted comps were high on his list but a relatively smoke free atmosphere was far more important to him. His action would have had him comped at many joints in this town, but in some of them he would have been gasping for air and in others he might have to fight off a few muggers. So decision making based solely on comps is unlikely to ever take place.

I'd prefer the very experienced craps dealers at the Venetian to the trainees at Terribles and it means enough to me to not even care if Terribles is willing to comp me.

Many of us have a certain tier dictated to us by a companion's preferences and we are allowed to choose from only a rather narrow range of casinos anyway. From that narrow range, comp policies are ever changing and are available to us only through second hand sources. Few visitors to Vegas will base selections solely on comps any more than they will base it solely on fountains or famed restaurants.
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September 30th, 2011 at 9:04:11 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Comps are for chumps. I have no players
card for any casino. My wife does, but thats her
problem.



Now Now Bob We all know who her biggest problem is, and his name !! LOL
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September 30th, 2011 at 10:57:15 AM permalink
Out of towners are probably a better source of information on comps for out of towners. While basic comps like cash back and meals are the same for everyone, often mailed offers will differ for locals.

Cheapo Vegas does a good job of segregating the casino reviews into sections for rooms, gambling, eating, etc. These sections can be then combined on a page for a casino, or a page comparing gaming options across casinos.

Comps, discounts, and freebies are for chumps. Real men insist paying at least full retail price for everything.
buzzpaff
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September 30th, 2011 at 11:03:04 AM permalink
I do not feel like a chump gassing up to drive to Blackhawk. Those $5 and $10 vouchers add up.
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