Kyle1123
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May 13th, 2023 at 10:04:29 PM permalink
I found out solaire casino,manila offers unique baccarat game which is named "baccarat rush"

A player may bet on either Player or Banker’s hand.
Only one initial card is dealt to each hand. The Dealer will announce the value of each card, with 10, JACK, QUEEN, and KING having zero or no point value, ACES worth 1 point, and 2 through 9 worth their face value. If the value of the card is 9 (the highest possible) or 8, it is a natural win.Following the hitting rules of Baccarat, the Dealer may draw the second card for each hand.
In this situation,I found out card couting is possible on "mega 6"side bet which wins if the winning Banker point total is 6. Pays 12 to 1 with one card and if with two cards, pays 20 to 1
Since having lots of "6" card in remained deck would lead to much bigger winning rate.Also,when there are few "8","9" card left in deck,it would be a plus point too.
But the problem is I dont know about the exact house edge of "mega 6(lucky 6)" bet in this situation.
Also,I have no idea how can I make a accurate card couting system in this there anyone who can help me?
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May 13th, 2023 at 11:43:33 PM permalink
Welcome to the forum.

https://www.solaireresort.com/article/baccarat-rush

For analysts, another important rule of the base game will be that banker wins with a point total of 6+ pay 1 to 2.

Is it permissible to play the Mega 6 side bet without a main (banker/player) bet active?
May the cards fall in your favor.
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May 14th, 2023 at 12:12:35 AM permalink
1 )Supposed PLAYER 1st card is 3, BANKER 1st card is 7, PLAYER will draw 2nd card and BANKER NOT draw 2nd card ?

2 )Supposed PLAYER 1st card is 6, BANKER 1st card is 7, both PLAYER and BANKER NOT draw 2nd card ?

3 )Supposed PLAYER 1st card is 5, BANKER 1st card is 4, PLAYER draw a card "8"(total = 5+8=13, so 3 points), BANKER NOT draw 2nd card ?

4) 8 deck ? penetration 7/8 ?
Kyle1123
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May 14th, 2023 at 12:25:36 AM permalink
Yes
If a player’s bet just meet the table minimum, then the Dealer can proceed and deal the hand even without main wagers.
Kyle1123
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May 14th, 2023 at 12:27:01 AM permalink
I dont know exactly but they follow traditional baccarat hitting rule
Kyle1123
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May 14th, 2023 at 12:28:51 AM permalink
I need your help
I want to know the house edge of this mega 6 bet and possible card couting strategy.
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May 14th, 2023 at 6:50:20 AM permalink
Quote: Kyle1123

I need your help
I want to know the house edge of this mega 6 bet and possible card couting strategy.
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a) 8 deck ? penetration 7/8 ?
b) min/max bet = ?
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May 14th, 2023 at 7:02:02 AM permalink
a)8 deck, penetration 7/8

b)Min 3000 peso/max 3000000 peso for banker and player bet
For mega 6 max would be like maximum of 300000 peso
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May 14th, 2023 at 9:02:33 AM permalink
Welcome to the forum. I am not the math expert, but your question is a great one. When a side bet’s results are so skewed by the presence or absence of a specific card (6 in this case) it is highly likely that it is countable. Hopefully one of the many expert mathematicians here takes up the task.

When you have played the game, have you noticed any players not betting it at all then betting it big for a while?
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May 14th, 2023 at 10:29:52 AM permalink
Using a balanced count of -2 for a 6 and +1 for an 8 or 9, and running 20 million shoes with 7/8 penetration, any count between +3 and +35 is an AP. The best plays are when the count is between +5 and +9, which average about 18 times in each shoe.

Keep in mind that if you do limit your bets to the +5 to +9 range, and bet 100 each time, you can only expect to win 30 per shoe.

Quote: Dieter

Welcome to the forum.

https://www.solaireresort.com/article/baccarat-rush

For analysts, another important rule of the base game will be that banker wins with a point total of 6+ pay 1 to 2.

Is it permissible to play the Mega 6 side bet without a main (banker/player) bet active?
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According to the link, only a banker win with 6 pays 1-2; wins with 7-9 pay even money.
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May 14th, 2023 at 10:54:52 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Using a balanced count of -2 for a 6 and +1 for an 8 or 9, and running 20 million shoes with 7/8 penetration, any count between +3 and +35 is an AP. The best plays are when the count is between +5 and +9, which average about 18 times in each shoe.

Keep in mind that if you do limit your bets to the +5 to +9 range, and bet 100 each time, you can only expect to win 30 per shoe.

Quote: Dieter

Welcome to the forum.

https://www.solaireresort.com/article/baccarat-rush

For analysts, another important rule of the base game will be that banker wins with a point total of 6+ pay 1 to 2.

Is it permissible to play the Mega 6 side bet without a main (banker/player) bet active?
link to original post


According to the link, only a banker win with 6 pays 1-2; wins with 7-9 pay even money.
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Good catch. I thought the 6+ sounded quite odd, so I'm glad that I had misread it.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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