Boyo
Boyo
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April 30th, 2021 at 9:37:51 PM permalink
I know betting “systems” are worthless. Having said that, do any UTH players have a strategy for bet amounts? For example, what do people like to do re the trips bet vs the ante/blind bet? Do people never bet trips? Bet less on trips? Bet the same or more on trips than the ante/blind?
Also, do people have a strategy for increasing or decreasing their bet size? For example, if I bet $25 on ante/blind and win a 4x bet, i’ll increase my next bet by $5 until I don’t win a 4x bet. I enjoy winning more on “hot streaks.” Do people think it is better to simply bet the same amount every hand? And yes, I know that the martindale system of doubling one’s bet after a loss is the road to ruin.
Thanks for your advice and thoughts.
phydeaux
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May 1st, 2021 at 12:53:02 AM permalink
There will be a lot of "trips is a sucker bet" and the like mentioned. I know this, horrible -EV, bad house advantage ect.... I still bet that sucker at a nickle. No matter what my Ante/blind is its always a nickle. I see so many people "overbet" the trips, by that I mean betting more than on the ante. Problem there is dealer fails to qualify and you end up losing money on a hand you won. Example.... 25 trips, 10 ante/ 10 blind. Bet 1x on river, dealer fails to qualify you lose 15 bucks on the hand you actually won. By underbetting the trips I still make 5 bucks.

Now I see the game from the house side, as I have "turned to the dark side " and become a dealer in the last few years and no longer play. I see the "overbet" all day every day, people who swear the money is on the trips bet. NEVER 4x bet.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Boyo
Boyo
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May 1st, 2021 at 8:07:50 AM permalink
Why do you say to never 4x bet? Isnt that where the advantage is?
LuckyPhow
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May 1st, 2021 at 9:39:42 AM permalink
Quote: Boyo

I know betting “systems” are worthless. Having said that, do any UTH players have a strategy for bet amounts? For example, what do people like to do re the trips bet ...



Because I do not bet the Trips bet I catch all the surprised comments like, "You don't bet the Trips? That's where ALL the money is!" Yup. That's me. "Well, y'see, it just doesn't work so good for me," is my usual reply.

However, I bet the Trips bet after every hand where my Blind bet wins. Because everyone at the table knows I never bet Trips, I make it a big thing by telling the Dealer, "If this crazy bet wins, we split the proceeds." Incredulous players often question whether I would really tip half of a straight flush or quads. I've split everything up to quads and full houses with my Dealers, much to their delight when it happens. I say, "Those Trips bets need all the help they can get." That's how I play my Trips bets -- to add excitement around the table.

Ummm... Not sure if it would be so simple to split winnings from a Royal Flush because of taxes, etc. But, the dealer tip would be generous.
mwalz9
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May 1st, 2021 at 10:22:00 AM permalink
Quote: LuckyPhow

Because I do not bet the Trips bet I catch all the surprised comments like, "You don't bet the Trips? That's where ALL the money is!" Yup. That's me. "Well, y'see, it just doesn't work so good for me," is my usual reply.

However, I bet the Trips bet after every hand where my Blind bet wins. Because everyone at the table knows I never bet Trips, I make it a big thing by telling the Dealer, "If this crazy bet wins, we split the proceeds." Incredulous players often question whether I would really tip half of a straight flush or quads. I've split everything up to quads and full houses with my Dealers, much to their delight when it happens. I say, "Those Trips bets need all the help they can get." That's how I play my Trips bets -- to add excitement around the table.

Ummm... Not sure if it would be so simple to split winnings from a Royal Flush because of taxes, etc. But, the dealer tip would be generous.



My local casino has side bets on BlackJack for IN BETWEEN, TRILUX, AND PAIR SQUARE. I never play TRI LUX or PAIR SQUARE and only do IN BETWEEN if I am betting quarters on the flat bet and am up at least $100, I'll covert a quarter to 5 nickels and do 5 IN BETWEENS.

People always get so pissed at me for hitting a Triple Match on In Between when I'm not playing it too. Some gamblers are funny.
Commish
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May 1st, 2021 at 3:48:04 PM permalink
In 12 years of playing Ultimate I have never bet the trips. It is obviously not as good a bet as the game itself. Why make a 2nd wager that is not as good as the first wager. Just bet more on the first wager. That being said I have had 80 straight flushes over the 12 years and did not bet the trips but the blind does pay more for that.

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