FleaStiff
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April 12th, 2010 at 6:59:23 AM permalink
Quote: appistappis

hi guys, I'm a craps dealer if you have specific questions, I'll be glad to help.

Do craps dealers have respect for the "tight" players who stick to Basic Strategy of making Line Bets and always making full odds bets right away or do craps dealer tend to respect those who take a little more risk than grinding away at the shallow end of the pool all the time?
appistappis
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April 13th, 2010 at 2:16:41 PM permalink
the answer would vary amoungst different dealers but most don't care....they just want to put their 8 hours in and get some half decent tokes...the dealers become immune to how you play. We do however have a big dislike for the strokers and flea's. Throw a 2 dollar c&e in every roll and never tip and you won't have a lot of friends
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May 6th, 2010 at 3:57:12 PM permalink
Craps question for Appi...

I am relatively new to Craps, and have a couple questions....

1. My casinos charge the vig up front, but you can go $1 up to $25. Say I buy the 4 for $25, and hand my dealer $26. Then, the 4 hits. I am due $50, and tell him to press me to $50 by keeping a green chip. Do I hand over another $1 or is it $2?

2. If my casino charges $1 for a $25 buy bet purchase, may I assume that they would go $4 for a $100 buy bet?

3. If you ever handle the Crapless Craps version, what successful betting strategies do you see employed on the Crapless table that differ from the regular version?
cclub79
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May 6th, 2010 at 4:23:12 PM permalink
Quote: midwestgb

Craps question for Appi...

I am relatively new to Craps, and have a couple questions....

1. My casinos charge the vig up front, but you can go $1 up to $25. Say I buy the 4 for $25, and hand my dealer $26. Then, the 4 hits. I am due $50, and tell him to press me to $50 by keeping a green chip. Do I hand over another $1 or is it $2?

2. If my casino charges $1 for a $25 buy bet purchase, may I assume that they would go $4 for a $100 buy bet?

3. If you ever handle the Crapless Craps version, what successful betting strategies do you see employed on the Crapless table that differ from the regular version?



1. You have to hand him $2. (Because you'd have to hand $1 if you keep the same bet)

2. It's usually $5 for $100 which is counter-intuitive, but true.

3. The house is s much higher on this game, so it's not normally played by traditional players. Best strategy would be to go to the regular table if you want to play dice.
DJTeddyBear
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May 6th, 2010 at 8:09:31 PM permalink
1 - Leaving your bet in place when they pay you directly is something of a courtesy. Not to mention it encourages you to continue to leave the bet in play. But, yeah, you gotta pay the vig again.


2 - Your casino doesn't "charge $1 for $25". They charge 5%, but round down. So, yeah, it's $5 for $100.

Funny story: I was next to a guy who bought the 4 & 10 for 25+1 each. Plus he had a lot of other bets. He kept pressing them 25+1 until they got to $100 - and he had only paid $4!

He did this for a couple shooters when I finally said to him, "I see what you're doing. You figured out how to beat the casino for a buck. You're my hero!" He got embarrassed, but laughed. The dealers, who were not stupid and also knew what he was doing, also laughed.


3 - Avoid Crapless Craps. It screws with your head.

The one time I tried it, I had a roll that went like this: $5 pass. I roll 7, 12, 11, 3, 7, and the dice move to the next shooter. What the?.... It took me a while to realize what happened. I swore I'd never play it again. On the upside, I also had a C/E working, and pressing, so I didn't complain much...
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appistappis
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May 6th, 2010 at 9:50:40 PM permalink
where ever I have worked they have done 1-25.....2-50.......3-75.......5-100
likeplayingcrapsandbj
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May 17th, 2010 at 9:53:17 AM permalink
Do dealers short players with payouts?
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FleaStiff
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May 17th, 2010 at 10:16:24 AM permalink
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Do dealers short players with payouts?

Ofcourse they do! They also overpay! And they often mis-pay. The dealer is human. Fatigue, distractions, etc. all play a role. Rarely is any mistake intentional. Mistakes often take place at a start or the end of a shift when attention can be focused elsewhere.
likeplayingcrapsandbj
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May 17th, 2010 at 10:20:34 AM permalink
Thanks for replying. I guess I am noticing this more and more. Last week I counted 7 "mistakes" in the house favor by different dealers in 2 hours. I would like to chalk it up to distractons but it happen too much. I won't be playing there again.
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May 17th, 2010 at 11:31:22 AM permalink
Quote: likeplayingcrapsandbj

Thanks for replying. I guess I am noticing this more and more. Last week I counted 7 "mistakes" in the house favor by different dealers in 2 hours. I would like to chalk it up to distractons but it happen too much. I won't be playing there again.



Just curious, what sort of casino was this? A local place, downtown Vegas, the Strip...? If it's one of the smaller downtown joints, or a regional casino that has just opened recently (in the last 2 years or so), it's very likely that the dealers are still learning their games ("break-ins") and just make a lot of mistakes. I can't speak for everyone, of course, but I know that I never WANT to make mistakes against the player...but like everyone else, I do from time to time.
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