hellafide11
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November 13th, 2015 at 7:14:14 PM permalink
this is my question someone i know won a jackpot under 2,000 dollars,unfortuantly they are banned from the casino they won it at..
well they gave them my name and info and social security card number...his excuse was he didnt have his license... so my question is he has 30 days to go pick it up with a valid ID...now can i get into any legal trouble for going and picking the winnings up?i mean he did give them my name and social securtiy number ...just didnt know if they would find out or rememebr what he looked liked of course they have cameras but will they go back and look?
Zcore13
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November 13th, 2015 at 8:06:10 PM permalink
Most likely they will require picture ID and he will not be able to pick it up. You can get it and you will receive the tax hit for the income.


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beachbumbabs
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November 13th, 2015 at 8:12:04 PM permalink
Take this with a grain of salt.

If you and he use an IRS form 5754 , with your name and social on the money, you should be able to claim it, and then you use that form (with his name, address, and social as well as your own) to offset the split with the guy for your taxes and his (he'll need to file it as well). It would cost him at least 10% for me to claim it, after he used my name and social on it, I can tell you.

That said, there's a lot of precedent that the person who pushes the button is the person who won, and even if you are in a split partnership, you're doing something that could perhaps cause you a problem down the road. However, it seems unlikely that, if you match your photo ID, they'd look at the surveillance tapes to match your likeness. I could be wrong.
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hellafide11
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November 13th, 2015 at 8:27:19 PM permalink
thanks for the info...i just wasnt for sure if i could get into any legal trouble for going to claim something that i didnt win....
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November 13th, 2015 at 9:00:01 PM permalink
Quote: hellafide11

thanks for the info...i just wasnt for sure if i could get into any legal trouble for going to claim something that i didnt win....



You say that like you won't. I think I and the others are saying, yes, conceivably, you can, as you are not the one who won it. But we're speculating on how likely it is you would in real life. Just want to be sure you understand the difference.
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hellafide11
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November 13th, 2015 at 10:00:52 PM permalink
No i am just asking a simple yes or no question will i get into trouble for doing it?
what is the odds that i will get into trouble since we arer all gamblers here...and second what kind of charge would it even be if i did get caught?
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November 13th, 2015 at 10:52:11 PM permalink
My uneducated guess is that there would be nothing illegal about you claiming the money since he gave your info with the intention of you claiming it. There's potential for legal trouble if he were to use your ID or a fake ID to claim the money himself. If the casino finds out a banned player is using friends to extricate his winnings, I doubt they'd do anything more than ban you as well.
AxelWolf
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November 14th, 2015 at 12:26:07 AM permalink
Seriously people? THIS IS ILLEGAL. The person who hits the jackpot is required to initially claim it. After that do whatever you want.
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waasnoday
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November 16th, 2015 at 4:23:56 PM permalink
Yah, there are some IRS legal issues here but I really do not want to look at the IRS website for the exact answer and citation. Was on it and the Fincen site for way too long the other day and my quota for the month is done. So even if illegal could you get away with it?

Well the answer is pretty much maybe. You say the actual winner was banned and did not have ID for the payout. If it was the casino I work at then I would say we would most likely have a nice picture of that person that was banned and we would probably have some note on that jackpot receipt to check that ID and to maybe contact surveillance to see if the person asking for the payout matches the picture we have. If it did not match then we probably would not payout. If we did payout then we would be letting the IRS know about the situation and leave the ball in their court.

Now with that being said not all casinos run the same way and you might be able to waltz right in an get paid but please be aware the banning does raise the risk of ruin in this case.
MathExtremist
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November 16th, 2015 at 6:00:48 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Seriously people? THIS IS ILLEGAL.

So are tax fraud and identity theft. Nice friend he has there.

OP should consult an attorney to find out how not to get in trouble for what the friend did with his social security number.
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