FleaStiff
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February 25th, 2012 at 3:15:47 PM permalink
House and Senate in South Dakota have passed legislation raising from One Hundred Dollars to One Thousand Dollars the largest bet that may be allowed in a casino. Once signed by the Governor, the limit will be raised for casinos on State land and by consent the Reservation casinos will abide by it.

One Hundred was the limit since 2002 when it was raised from five dollars.

Note: What was that Travel Channel(?) show about a motorcycle bar in Sturgis?
Start re-running that show and get more people lined up to trek to Sturgis, ... 1,000 dollar limits at whatever casino is nearest.
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February 25th, 2012 at 3:18:09 PM permalink
If Colorado follows suit, perhaps the casinos currently in bankruptcy will be solvent in a few years.
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February 25th, 2012 at 4:15:29 PM permalink
Now that's just silly. They could as well go all the way and lift the limit.

I believe the most socially harmful wagers are (if we take as an axiom that some are, else the whole issue is moot) ones $1 and below, as slot addiction, and $50-$1,000, as loss-chasing. Wagers past $1,000 are clear whale territory, and those are the least potentially harmful; whales didn't become whales through poor money management.
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February 25th, 2012 at 4:16:50 PM permalink
But occasionally a whale is exposed as an embezzler.
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February 25th, 2012 at 4:22:16 PM permalink
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February 25th, 2012 at 4:23:30 PM permalink
Not many casinos consider a $1,000 per bet player a "whale".
A whale is more in the $20,000+ per bet range.
The average bet for a whale at blackjack and baccarat is right around $50,000.
The top Vegas casinos usually have bet limits in the $150-$300k range.
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February 25th, 2012 at 4:29:11 PM permalink
I think it's more like $5.000. Anybody got any solid numbers.
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February 25th, 2012 at 4:34:03 PM permalink
Gamble big--very big--around $100,000 per bet. Australian billionaire Kerry Packer, the world's highest-stakes gambler, bets up to $375,000 per hand while playing seven blackjack hands at a time. His losses once amounted to $20 million in a weekend. Still think you can swim with these sharks?


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February 25th, 2012 at 4:35:57 PM permalink
There is no way a whale is averaging 5k.
Thats the normal table limit on the main floor a lot of places.
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February 25th, 2012 at 4:36:45 PM permalink
Quote: P90

the most socially harmful wagers ...

Gee, how did socially harmful wagers get dragged into this?
If the post is about a new wine's quality, it has nothing to do with alcoholism or drunk driving.
If a post is about betting limits, it has nothing to do with social harm but only applies to economics, travel trends, etc.

Do gooder Sunday School teachers who want only a five dollar bet limit should have their pension funds invested in casino stocks!
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February 25th, 2012 at 4:40:45 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

I think it's more like $5.000. Anybody got any solid numbers.

You might get some solid numbers from that guy who organized an Evening Dress and Limousine Trip to the Gold Spike. Dealers there were not used to ladies in Evening Gowns, or gentlemen in Tuxedos, certainly not used to limousines delivering their customers and most definitely not used to seeing multiple Black Chips in play in what is usually a sea of Red and White.
So the moral of all this is that "whale" may just be a very subjective term.
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February 25th, 2012 at 5:01:35 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

You might get some solid numbers from that guy who organized an Evening Dress and Limousine Trip to the Gold Spike. Dealers there were not used to ladies in Evening Gowns, or gentlemen in Tuxedos, certainly not used to limousines delivering their customers and most definitely not used to seeing multiple Black Chips in play in what is usually a sea of Red and White.
So the moral of all this is that "whale" may just be a very subjective term.

Yes, and the Gold Spike backed them off. One of the reasons I won't play at the Gold Spike. (Not that I'm missing much).
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February 25th, 2012 at 5:15:24 PM permalink
Interesting, care to post a link about the Spike backing off players?
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February 25th, 2012 at 5:22:00 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Gamble big--very big--around $100,000 per bet. Australian billionaire Kerry Packer, the world's highest-stakes gambler, bets up to $375,000 per hand



Until 2005 when he died, that is.
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February 25th, 2012 at 5:23:49 PM permalink
Did he die a winner ?? LOL
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February 25th, 2012 at 5:56:11 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

Interesting, care to post a link about the Spike backing off players?

I don't think anyone was backed off, the Floor or Pit said something about give us more notice next time but I don't think anyone's play was discouraged.
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February 29th, 2012 at 7:25:28 PM permalink
There are few people in Deadwood that can afford a bet up to $1000 anyway. This basically just allows for no limit holdem to become legal and a handful of people that bat bigger.
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February 29th, 2012 at 9:38:10 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

I think it's more like $5.000. Anybody got any solid numbers.



"Whale" is a subjective term so there are no solid numbers. I think the simplest definition is: A whale is someone whose single trip potential win could significantly affect the revenue of the table games department or casino as a whole over a period of time greater than a month or so.

If you're a tiny, hole-in-the-wall tribal casino with a $10,000/day drop a whale to you could be someone betting $500.

If you're a massive casino in Macau with $10,000,000/day drop a player may need to bet $500,000 to be truly considered a whale.
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