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TwoFeathersATL
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August 11th, 2016 at 4:55:03 AM permalink
Quote: Rel8te

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With that being said, I used to work as a dealer for an Indian casino where when we opened and closed the table, the QUANTITY of the cards was checked, but not the actual cards. Could the casino get away with swapping an ace for a five? Probably, yes, because we were strictly not allowed (including the pit boss and floor supervisors) to check the cards themselves to determine if the deck was composed fairly.
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'strictly not allowed, not even the bosses'. Never heard of such a thing. I'm used to seeing the cards spread for everyone's inspection when a table opens. If anyone else from an insider perspective could shed some light on practices even vaguely similar to that described above, I would love to hear about it. Thx.
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
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August 11th, 2016 at 11:12:36 AM permalink
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'strictly not allowed, not even the bosses'. Never heard of such a thing. I'm used to seeing the cards spread for everyone's inspection when a table opens. If anyone else from an insider perspective could shed some light on practices even vaguely similar to that described above, I would love to hear about it. Thx.



I've been doing this for over a decade and never seen what Rel8te is talking about. I cannot imagine any legitimate/regulated casino would refuse to allow a Pit Boss to verify game integrity in any jurisdiction.
TwoFeathersATL
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August 11th, 2016 at 1:13:44 PM permalink
Quote: KingoftheEye

I've been doing this for over a decade and never seen what Rel8te is talking about. I cannot imagine any legitimate/regulated casino would refuse to allow a Pit Boss to verify game integrity in any jurisdiction.

He did say "An Indian casino", which in some eyes automatically falls into a grey undefined area. But still?
Is that why I lost all that money ;-?
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Rel8te
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August 15th, 2016 at 10:43:29 AM permalink
Yes, it is an Indian casino regulated by... guess who? Themselves.

And yes it is strictly against their protocols to open a table and to spread the cards face-up. I had people explaining to me how this is very sketchy and I've heard stories where even high-rollers who asked to verify the legitimacy of the game were refused to see the cards in their entirety face-up.
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August 16th, 2016 at 1:02:24 AM permalink
Quote: Rel8te

Yes, it is an Indian casino regulated by... guess who? Themselves.

And yes it is strictly against their protocols to open a table and to spread the cards face-up. I had people explaining to me how this is very sketchy and I've heard stories where even high-rollers who asked to verify the legitimacy of the game were refused to see the cards in their entirety face-up.



Can't imagine putting serious cash on a table like that.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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August 16th, 2016 at 5:36:14 AM permalink
Quote: Rel8te

Yes, it is an Indian casino regulated by... guess who? Themselves.

And yes it is strictly against their protocols to open a table and to spread the cards face-up. I had people explaining to me how this is very sketchy and I've heard stories where even high-rollers who asked to verify the legitimacy of the game were refused to see the cards in their entirety face-up.

Is there a reason not to mention the name of the casino?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Rel8te
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August 19th, 2016 at 5:38:31 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Is there a reason not to mention the name of the casino?



Confidentiality agreement with the casino.
andysif
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August 19th, 2016 at 6:51:00 PM permalink
Quote: Rel8te

Confidentiality agreement with the casino.


are you serious?
if what you said is real, then you have a moral obligation to let other people know what this place is. If they are not loyal to their customer, why should you be loyal to them?
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August 19th, 2016 at 7:03:42 PM permalink
No. It isn't possible.
AxelWolf
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August 21st, 2016 at 10:15:45 PM permalink
Quote: andysif

are you serious?
if what you said is real, then you have a moral obligation to let other people know what this place is. If they are not loyal to their customer, why should you be loyal to them?

I'm Skeptical anyways it was obvious we wouldn't get a name.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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