Quote: RaleighCrapsI was on the Cherokee site and they have a news item about the new Cherokee casino they have started building in Murphy, NC. It is about an hour and 20 minutes to the south east....
Murphy is southwest of Cherokee. GoogleMaps estimates 1 hr 8 minutes.
If they build a comparable casino, I suspect it will draw a lot of the Atlanta traffic and all of whatever traffic there is from Chattanooga. It would be a more difficult destination for you and me, so I'm not likely to go there. OK, maybe once if they have different chips to collect. Maybe the diversion of some of the traffic would make Cherokee better for us.
If nothing else, it should take some pressure off the hotel portion, so rooms at the casino should be easier to come by. As to the games, it will remain to be seen.
Will they give us slightly better rules to try and draw some more play? Possibly.
Will they tighten up the games and try to bleed more from the players, to offset the lost revenue? With CET --- More likely.
However, it is my understanding the decisions are made by the Cherokee tribal leaders, and CET is there to manage and run the casino as decided by the tribal leaders. At least that was the reason I was given for the changes in the craps rules over the last couple of years.
For Doc and I, it should not be an issue. Not sure about OG or rdw4potus though.
Wed and Thur low in the negatives, with snow possible.
Fri high in mid 30s, so that is okay.
Sat is a wintry mix in the 40s, and Sun is 40s with rain.
My wife and I are definitely going, assuming we don't get a bunch of snow that keeps us from getting over the mountain in Asheville. I have already booked our massages for Sunday morning.
Quote: RaleighCrapsFor Doc and I, it ....
Are we going to stir up that "you and me" vs. "you and I" thing again?
As for the Cherokee get together, my plan is to pretend that the NC Dept. of Transportation knows how to clear at least the 4-lane roads so that I can just ignore the weather issues. Why let rational thought processes get in the way of playing craps?
Quote: Doc
As for the Cherokee get together, my plan is to pretend that the NC Dept. of Transportation knows how to clear at least the 4-lane roads so that I can just ignore the weather issues. Why let rational thought processes get in the way of playing craps?
I'm definitely in. Hotel is booked & prepaid and I'm too cheap to strand that money:-) Current plan is to work about 6 hours on Saturday so that I can take off about 6 hours on Monday. I'll drive up saturday evening (worst case sunday morning) & leave monday morning. Hopefully, the weather will help with crowding and table limits...
Quote: RaleighCrapsSat is a wintry mix in the 40s, and Sun is 40s with rain.
a little too far out to trust the forecast. I'd say, though, that it hasn't scared me off yet ... if the wintry mix of last year that we had for WoV east first of March didn't do it ...
in the meantime, the current cold spell around here is pretty impressive. Not much snow tho'
Quote: DocAre we going to stir up that "you and me" vs. "you and I" thing again?
Me was just checking to see if anyone reads what I write........... ;-)
Quote: rdw4potusI'm definitely in. Hotel is booked & prepaid and I'm too cheap to strand that money:-) Current plan is to work about 6 hours on Saturday so that I can take off about 6 hours on Monday. I'll drive up saturday evening (worst case sunday morning) & leave monday morning. Hopefully, the weather will help with crowding and table limits...
As OG said, the forecast is a ways out, but right now it looks like Saturday could be an ugly travel day. Although they are calling for mid 40s, so if it is going to snow, it would have to be in the morning I presume.
Heart is playing Saturday night. Not sure how die hard the Heart fans will be about showing up.
Quote: noaaOconaluftee NC
Friday A 30 percent chance of snow after 2pm. Partly sunny, with a high near 29.
Friday Night Snow likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 22. Chance of precipitation is 60%.
Saturday Rain and snow likely. Cloudy, with a high near 42. Chance of precipitation is 70%.
Saturday Night Rain likely. Cloudy, with a low around 38. Chance of precipitation is 70%.
Sunday Rain likely. Cloudy, with a high near 50. Chance of precipitation is 60%.
Sunday Night A chance of rain and snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 29. Chance of precipitation is 50%.
Monday A chance of rain and snow. Partly sunny, with a high near 42. Chance of precipitation is 40%.
if this forecast holds up, with the expected lows & highs , I'm in.
Oconaluftee, eh?
Quote: odiousgambitOconaluftee, eh?
Yeah, it's the name of an area, a valley, a river, a Visitors' Center, a few more things, and perhaps a NOAA weather station. The Soco Creek that flows between the casino and the main hotel runs into the Oconaluftee River maybe two winding miles downstream. That river is the one beside most of the non-casino places that people really associate with the tribe, including the museum and the Oconaluftee Indian Village. I have no idea what the word means. Since Harrah's still won't let me have a room at the casino hotel, or even subsidize my staying at an "area" hotel, I'll be footing the bill at one of the hotels across the street from the Oconaluftee River.
Quote: DocI have no idea what the word means.
if the Cherokee are like the Mattaponi, it may not mean anything, sort of
Quote: teddysSo now that I am (somewhat less than delightfully) unemployed, I am seriously considering making this trip. I'd say I'm about 70% to go. If I go, dinner at the casino's on me on Sunday night. (Thanks, Caesars Seven Stars!)
oh damn it. you were supposed to save that for a Cleveland get together ;-). Sorry to hear about your change in employment status.
Quote: teddysSo now that I am (somewhat less than delightfully) unemployed, I am seriously considering making this trip. I'd say I'm about 70% to go. If I go, dinner at the casino's on me on Sunday night. (Thanks, Caesars Seven Stars!)
My good luck charm showing up? too much to hope for?
Come on down, Teddy! We'll have a blast!
Quote: teddysSo now that I am (somewhat less than delightfully) unemployed,
Sorry to hear that. Hope there is a delightful next chapter to the story.
Quote: teddysI am seriously considering making this trip. I'd say I'm about 70% to go.
That's not a "next chapter", but it is delightful to hear. That makes two WoV members I will meet for the first time.
Quote: teddysIf I go, dinner at the casino's on me on Sunday night. (Thanks, Caesars Seven Stars!)
Now that's even more delightful!
When will you be arriving? (Note, I'm not even allowing for that other 30%.) Those of us coming seem to be on different-but-overlapping schedules.
Quote: odiousgambitMy good luck charm showing up? too much to hope for?
Come on down, Teddy! We'll have a blast!
+2 (Mrs RC wanted a voice too)
The only question left is: What do you want to eat at Ruth's Chris?
Quote: teddysI am in! It took some haggling (including a hang-up-and-call-again), but I got a comp for Cherokee for three nights. Looking forward to some craps action.
The only question left is: What do you want to eat at Ruth's Chris?
Let's hear it for teddys!
hip hip hooray - hip hip hooray - hip hip hooray
(Thank goodness for copy and paste, otherwise there would have only been one cheer.)
I would never turn down Ruth's Chris. I have eaten at the Cherokee one three times and it has always been top notch. However, we might also want to consider the buffet. On Sunday's they bring out the seafood, clams and both iced crab legs and steamed crab legs. And if I remember right, they were king crabs. That was the first time we had been in the buffet, and it was surprisingly good.
If we decide on Ruth's, we will want to get reservations in early.
confirmed Attendees: (EDIT: rdw4potus confirmed)
RC and Mrs. - arriving Friday night
Odiousgambit - sometime Saturday I think
Doc and Mrs. - Sunday around noon ?
teddys - guessing in on Friday sometime?
rdw4potus - coming in on Saturday
Anyone else I may have missed?
I don't think any of us are AP so recognition is not a concern that I think we need to consider. Correct?
Sunday will be the official meet up. I believe Doc has indicated he will get there a bit before noon.
I suggest we meet in the food court area in the right side of the casino at 12:00 noon.
- One or two may be leaving on Sunday, so not sure what time we should have dinner. If you are leaving on Sunday, please indicate what time you would like to leave Cherokee so we can see if we can get dinner in for everyone.
Since we have 5 forum members I guess I should put together a trivia contest. It will probably be short and lame, but I will declare it is designed that way, since we have very little time together as a complete group. No since wasting it on trivia.....
If you are coming in before Sunday, and want to try and get together, please send me your tentative arrival date and time, and cell number. Also, let me know if you want your arrival info, and/or cell number shared with the others who are coming in.
I will send out the information you are okay sharing in a PM to each one of the people who are committed to making this trip.
Damnit, Gordy, the buffet just isn't expensive enough! :)Quote: RaleighCraps
I would never turn down Ruth's Chris. I have eaten at the Cherokee one three times and it has always been top notch. However, we might also want to consider the buffet. On Sunday's they bring out the seafood, clams and both iced crab legs and steamed crab legs. And if I remember right, they were king crabs. That was the first time we had been in the buffet, and it was surprisingly good.
If we decide on Ruth's, we will want to get reservations in early.
There is also Brio as an option.
Quote: teddysDamnit, Gordy, the buffet just isn't expensive enough! :)
There is also Brio as an option.
The Sunday buffet was $29.99 or $34.99. I can't remember which. Still cheaper than Ruth's, but not by as much as you might think. ;-)
But if the object is to spend spend, we can definitely rack up bigger bills at either Ruth's or Brio.
Quote: DocBTW, back on page #1 I proposed naming this gathering if we wound up with more than 2-3 members. Now it looks like we have five, so I'm turning back to my suggestion of "WoV Carolina Convention." Any better ideas?
Not sure it is a better idea, but I offer "The Great Smoky Con"
(not sure if there are other casinos located in The Great Smokys or not.)
Quote: teddysDamnit, Gordy, the buffet just isn't expensive enough! :)
Hooray Teddy! In the spirit of that, we have to skip the Buffet, and Ruth's Chris gets my vote.
Glad you are coming, Teddy, and you must accept some gesture of my appreciation for the dinner, maybe some time in the future. Very generous. You earned those comps!
Quote: RaleighCrapsOdiousgambit - sometime Saturday I think
close enough as I'm debating when to leave on Friday.
Quote:I don't think any of us are AP so recognition is not a concern that I think we need to consider. Correct?
sounds like good cover for an AP to be in the group. What's the issue?!
Quote:Since we have 5 forum members I guess I should put together a trivia contest.
Tradition! and homage to our fearless leader ... thanks, RC. Try to figure out Teddy's worst categories so he won't be an automatic winner LOL
Quote: RaleighCrapsNot sure it is a better idea, but I offer "The Great Smoky Con"
how about WoV East Oconaluftee? j/k [I think] Great Smoky would be OK
Quote: DocAre we going to stir up that "you and me" vs. "you and I" thing again?
As for the Cherokee get together, my plan is to pretend that the NC Dept. of Transportation knows how to clear at least the 4-lane roads so that I can just ignore the weather issues. Why let rational thought processes get in the way of playing craps?
Yeah those roads to Cherokee off I-40 (74 & 441) are the first plowed in the area. I've been there lots when it was snowing. Really funny thing is that a lot of times there will be a blizzard on one side of the mountain and the sun shining on the other. Cullowhee NC (home of Western Carolina University) was the wintering ground for the Cherokees as it almost never snows in that valley. Wish I could come but my finances won't allow it. I live in Charlotte a flat 186 miles and 3 hours door to door.
Quote: RaleighCraps
rdw4potus - last I read, I think he is coming in on Saturday, but am not positive he is in.
I'm in. Driving up saturday evening. Might try to snag aftermarket tix for heart. Otherwise, might just hunker down at the hotel and resume work. Around for all of Sunday. Driving back to Columbia first thing Monday. The fiancee is officially out for this meeting (she's still in WI. ETA in Columbia remains unknown)
Edit: Heart tix are $150?!? My crush on Nancy Wilson is not that strong...
All except for Doc and mrs. will be in vicinity of the casino by Saturday evening.
It doesn't appear that anyone has travel plans for Sunday night, so we have an open agenda.
We will officially meet at the food court at noon.
Decision on supper place and time will be made at that time. Since teddys has graciously offered to host the dinner, I will leave the choice of venue up to him.
Once we know the supper time, we can grab a suitable lunch.
If everyone stays for lunch, we could do the trivia at this time. If anyone does not want to lunch it, then we will do trivia at dinner.
Don't get too excited. As trivia contests goes, this one is lame, but there shouldn't be any ties..... :-)
I presume craps will be the numero uno item on the agenda as soon as lunch is over.
Since OG has set the precedent (damn you OG), I will be offering a $25 bounty as a craps challenge (assuming we can all get on a table together).
I had a more creative challenge planned, but common sense has prevailed. (The other challenge would have made it hard for me to play and keep track of the challenge).
1. As long as I and at least 2 other members are at the same table, the challenge will remain active.
2. Whoever has the highest number of made points on ONE shoot, will win.
3. in the event of a tie, the shooter who got the number of points first will be the winner.
4. I am eligible to win (back) the $25.
Quote: RaleighCrapsSince OG has set the precedent (damn you OG), I will be offering a $25 bounty as a craps challenge (assuming we can all get on a table together).
I had a more creative challenge planned, but common sense has prevailed. (The other challenge would have made it hard for me to play and keep track of the challenge).
1. As long as I and at least 2 other members are at the same table, the challenge will remain active.
2. Whoever has the highest number of made points on ONE shoot, will win.
3. in the event of a tie, the shooter who got the number of points first will be the winner.
4. I am eligible to win (back) the $25.
Nice simple version! Should work. You are wise to avoid something hard to keep track of. As I have said before, each player should announce his progress too.
Yippee, you know I like Craps challenges!
Why would that be?
RC and Mrs.
Doc and Mrs.
OdiousGambit
rdw4potus
teddys
villarrr
villarrr is a 'new to craps' player from Raleigh. He will be there on Saturday, leaving sometime Sunday
I don't remember if I have seen jeans or not.
Definitely does not require jacket
Quote: beachbumbabsIf the dinner is at Ruth's Chris, I highly recommend the sweet potato casserole as a side. Just amazing. The garlic potatoes are also delicious, and the button mushrooms in garlic butter are excellent. They serve these as large portions on separate dishes that can easily be shared, FWIW.
You still have time to make the trip BBB. We dare you to leave the sunshine and come to the frigid mid south.....
Quote: RaleighCrapsYou still have time to make the trip BBB. We dare you to leave the sunshine and come to the frigid mid south.....
I haven't wanted to speculate. I'm about 1/2 inch from getting in the car; I was checking hotel.com for rates earlier this week. But I dislike saying I'll be there and then not making it, and it's still up in the air.
Quote: beachbumbabsI haven't wanted to speculate. I'm about 1/2 inch from getting in the car; I was checking hotel.com for rates earlier this week. But I dislike saying I'll be there and then not making it, and it's still up in the air.
Come on down! up[?]
somehow I had you in Vegas at this time ?
Quote: beachbumbabsI haven't wanted to speculate. I'm about 1/2 inch from getting in the car; I was checking hotel.com for rates earlier this week. But I dislike saying I'll be there and then not making it, and it's still up in the air.
How long is the trip?
I could have called it a "no-brainer", but that doesn't apply here.
;-)
Harrah's is offering a comp room for Sunday; they say Saturday's sold out. But a person could set out Saturday night, drive through, arrive Sunday morning and play until the meet-up. Leave Monday.
I haven't been there since 1999, when I spent a couple hours after a family visit to Clingman's Dome. From what you all say, it's improved a lot.
Cons: I have to go to LV for a week the next Saturday.
I'm close enough to broke it's quite unwise to make the trip in addition to that.
However, YOLO is screaming in my ear. Aaaiiiiyyeee.
Quote: beachbumbabsI haven't been there since 1999....
Did you play their only table game ... electronic blackjack? You wouldn't believe the place is even related to that former alleged casino.
Las Vegas the next Saturday? Sounds like plenty of time to make your connections.
Close to broke? Sounds as if you probably need just one more winning session before heading to Nevada.
;-)
They must have released more seats since I see a bunch of tickets available on TicketMaster from $43-$64: http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0E004D5E887929A2Quote: rdw4potusI'm in. Driving up saturday evening. Might try to snag aftermarket tix for heart. Otherwise, might just hunker down at the hotel and resume work. Around for all of Sunday. Driving back to Columbia first thing Monday. The fiancee is officially out for this meeting (she's still in WI. ETA in Columbia remains unknown)
Edit: Heart tix are $150?!? My crush on Nancy Wilson is not that strong...
Yes, I was also looking at Heart tickets ... :-0
Anybody who will be in town Saturday: There looks like there is an 100% player equity slot tournament at 2PM. Looks like a bit of fun. I will be playing. http://www.harrahscherokee.com/content/dam/che/Nightlife/Essence/Harrahs-Cherokee-Nightlife-Essence-9.pdf
Quote: teddysThere looks like there is an 100% player equity slot tournament at 2PM
I suppose if you ask them they say video poker doesnt count, but sometimes you find it does and 'they' don't know.
Anybody know if video poker slips through the cracks in other ways, such as generating the same points as slots when not supposed to?
Quote: odiousgambitI suppose if you ask them they say video poker doesnt count, but sometimes you find it does and 'they' don't know.
Anybody know if video poker slips through the cracks in other ways, such as generating the same points as slots when not supposed to?
The casino belongs to the Cherokees, but CET runs it for them, and CET pretty much runs it like the rest of their properties. I'm not a slot player, nor a video poker player, but I think the best I have been able to notice is 8/5 JoB.
I don't recall having found any 9/6 even in the high limit room.
I don't know what to look for on Bonus and Double Bonus poker games, of which they have a lot.
Quote: teddysThey must have released more seats since I see a bunch of tickets available on TicketMaster from $43-$64: http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0E004D5E887929A2
Yes, I was also looking at Heart tickets ... :-0
Anybody who will be in town Saturday: There looks like there is an 100% player equity slot tournament at 2PM. Looks like a bit of fun. I will be playing. http://www.harrahscherokee.com/content/dam/che/Nightlife/Essence/Harrahs-Cherokee-Nightlife-Essence-9.pdf
What makes you think it is a 100% player equity?
First Place 45% of Total Prize Pool
Second Place 25% of Total Prize Pool
Third Place 15% of Total Prize Pool
Fourth Place 10% of Total Prize Pool
Fifth Place 5% of Total Prize Pool
I'm betting it is trick wording. Sure, they are paying out 100% of the prize pool, but not all $20 of your entry goes into the prize pool.
Still, for $20, not a bad way to kill off some time.
Quote: RaleighCrapsThe casino belongs to the Cherokees, but CET runs it for them, and CET pretty much runs it like the rest of their properties. I'm not a slot player, nor a video poker player, but I think the best I have been able to notice is 8/5 JoB.
I don't recall having found any 9/6 even in the high limit room.
I don't know what to look for on Bonus and Double Bonus poker games, of which they have a lot.
There used to be 9/6 JoB at the $5 level in High Limit Room. 1 bank 3 machines a side. $1 $2 $5 denomination Only $5 is 9/6. There was also one lonely $5 Game King on the floor but I think it got wiped out when they added to the tables game section. Last time I was there the New Sphinx 3D machine was throwing out money.