Boz
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August 27th, 2014 at 10:43:54 AM permalink
They did sent free play to CZR AC players as they ran a promotion for about 4 weeks where you received $5 in free slot play at HB for every 250 tier credits earned or something like that.
vendman1
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August 27th, 2014 at 10:54:19 AM permalink
Yeah I can confirm this I got some free play based on my AC action. The place is going to mobbed for a while though. Don't anticipate I'll make a trip there for a while. Even though its only maybe 25 min from my house.
hook3670
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August 27th, 2014 at 11:39:19 AM permalink
The fact they opened at 9 on a Tuesday night and had to hold people in line some for two or more hours is crazy. I am sure while the novelty lasts minimums will be high, though they do have 122 tables. I would think they will do good business but obviously that may have been the biggest crowd they are going to get. An even bigger money maker is coming in two years to Maryland with MGM right across from Northern Virginia.
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August 28th, 2014 at 9:10:31 AM permalink
I did not make it on opening night, but I did visit the new Horseshoe Baltimore yesterday, arriving around noon as I was just passing through the area. At that time on day #2, all of the craps tables were still operating at a $25 minimum. That is above my comfort level, so I didn't even bother to ask whether they were really offering 100x odds. They were doing some sort of set-up on one table, but all of the other craps tables were active -- all were busy, but there was plenty of room to get a spot at mid-day. I played a while, lost some money, and collected my souvenir chip. Not surprisingly at all, it was in very good condition. ;-)

While I was not interested in playing other games, I noticed a few blackjack tables on the second level that had $15 minimums at that time, but I didn't check out the rules. All of the BJ tables that I saw on the lower level were $25 minimum.

I was in the middle of a long day's drive, so I didn't explore the whole place. It was noisy, and a guitar player/singer was trying to perform on a stage in the middle, with exposure to multiple floors. I overheard other people commenting on how much bigger the place is than the other MD casinos.
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August 28th, 2014 at 9:14:40 AM permalink
Sounds like Maryland Live's estimate of losing 40% might be on the low side.
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vendman1
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August 29th, 2014 at 5:06:36 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

I did not make it on opening night, but I did visit the new Horseshoe Baltimore yesterday, arriving around noon as I was just passing through the area. At that time on day #2, all of the craps tables were still operating at a $25 minimum. That is above my comfort level, so I didn't even bother to ask whether they were really offering 100x odds. They were doing some sort of set-up on one table, but all of the other craps tables were active -- all were busy, but there was plenty of room to get a spot at mid-day. I played a while, lost some money, and collected my souvenir chip. Not surprisingly at all, it was in very good condition. ;-)

While I was not interested in playing other games, I noticed a few blackjack tables on the second level that had $15 minimums at that time, but I didn't check out the rules. All of the BJ tables that I saw on the lower level were $25 minimum.

I was in the middle of a long day's drive, so I didn't explore the whole place. It was noisy, and a guitar player/singer was trying to perform on a stage in the middle, with exposure to multiple floors. I overheard other people commenting on how much bigger the place is than the other MD casinos.



Thanks for the quick report Doc..that's frankly what I expected the first few days. It amuses me to hear people say its so much bigger. It's actually a little smaller than MD Live I think. But it's much bigger than the other casino closest to Baltimore, the Hollywood in Perryville. So maybe that's what people were referring to.

I think MD live expecting a 40% decline is pessimistic for them. I'd say the customer base at MD live is split about 50/50 between Baltimore people and DC people. They may lose say 1/2 of the Baltimore people. So that would be maybe a 25% decline but 40% is hard to imagine.

Now when National Harbor outside DC opens in a couple of years, 40% is easily believable maybe more like 50-60 percent. Nat'l. Harbor will capture anyone coming from the south. Horseshoe Balt. anyone coming from the North. MD Live is going to be stuck with the tweeners. Not an insignificant market but not the near monopoly of two cities they have now.
Doc
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August 29th, 2014 at 7:38:36 AM permalink
Quote: vendman1

It amuses me to hear people say its so much bigger. It's actually a little smaller than MD Live I think. But it's much bigger than the other casino closest to Baltimore, the Hollywood in Perryville. So maybe that's what people were referring to.


As I noted, I did not explore the extent of the Horseshoe. In addition, my only (brief) visits to Hollywood Perryville and Maryland Live! were a year ago, and I didn't really explore those facilities either. I'm just a chip collector. I really couldn't say from memory which one is the largest. Maryland Live! is a bit deceiving because of the way it is attached to the shopping mall, while the multi-floor configuration of the Horseshoe's gaming area can also distort perceptions.
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August 29th, 2014 at 8:48:32 AM permalink
They haven't bothered to update their website for poker promotions but they've updated the Bravo app.
I checked this morning on Bravo on my android and they have a pretty cool step by step bad beat promotion, so if you lose queens full, you get a certain amount, kings full a little more, and so on to the full actual bad beat.
Tournaments start in October apparently.
mickeycrimm
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August 29th, 2014 at 9:09:35 AM permalink
The first place I ever seen offering 100X odds was Binion's Horseshoe in Las Vegas. This was in the nineties and I think there was a craps war going on at the time with houses offering varying amounts of free odds. Binion's trumped them all by offering 100X.

Don't quote me on this but I think the 100X odds cuts the HA on Pass with free odds down to about .2%. Does anyone know the true number?
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odiousgambit
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August 29th, 2014 at 10:45:11 AM permalink
Off by a decimal point

an order of magnitude, Sir

ye of hefty bankroll would be enjoying -0.021% HE with your eye-popping bets

http://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/
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