Good news for Florida drivers!!
And to think I tough you were going to say they were going to make the old people retest more frequently. Or start targeting the stereotypical race of bad drivers.Quote: DeMangoThe State Senate has passed a bill to up the speed limit to 75mph on the interstate highways and other limited access toll roads. The State House is expected to follow suit. I did the calcs on my 620 mile jaunt past the "almost a casino" in Tampa, to Biloxi, and it will cut 1/2 hour on my travel time. Those driving from the southeast (Miami, Wet Bum Beach) will see even a greater savings.
I can't stand the fact they are giving illegals Drivers licencees here in NV. That's Total BS They should be deporting them not helping them
But it will be nice to go across Alligator Alley at a faster speed... I don't like lingering on a road named Alligator Alley.
Now that I'm learning math and learning Poker Variant Carnival Games I will be enjoying the Seminole places more.
For "Real Craps" I'll always have that Victory Casino ship even if its a bit of a drive too.
Quote: DeMangoThe State Senate has passed a bill to up the speed limit to 75mph on the interstate highways and other limited access toll roads. The State House is expected to follow suit. I did the calcs on my 620 mile jaunt past the "almost a casino" in Tampa, to Biloxi, and it will cut 1/2 hour on my travel time. Those driving from the southeast (Miami, Wet Bum Beach) will see even a greater savings.
Do you actually drive the speed limit or go over?
I dunno how strict Florida is, but if they are like most states, they'll probably not pull you over until you're going 80+. But I wouldn't automatically assume this would move that threshold five miles an hour higher. Illinois upped the limit to 70 this year, and the cops are now pulling people over left and right there. Call me a wuss if you want, I think Florida is too populated for 75, imo.
Quote: tringlomaneDo you actually drive the speed limit or go over?
I dunno how strict Florida is, but if they are like most states, they'll probably not pull you over until you're going 80+. But I wouldn't automatically assume this would move that threshold five miles an hour higher. Illinois upped the limit to 70 this year, and the cops are now pulling people over left and right there. Call me a wuss if you want, I think Florida is too populated for 75, imo.
Higher Speed limit is great for alligator alley, Naples to Ft Lauderdale, driving through the Everglades from Gulf coast to Atlantic coast. I've done that drive, couple hours of nothingness.
Quote: tringlomaneDo you actually drive the speed limit or go over?
I dunno how strict Florida is, but if they are like most states, they'll probably not pull you over until you're going 80+. But I wouldn't automatically assume this would move that threshold five miles an hour higher. Illinois upped the limit to 70 this year, and the cops are now pulling people over left and right there. Call me a wuss if you want, I think Florida is too populated for 75, imo.
It really depends on the area. Tallahassee and nearby counties may ticket at 9mph over. That area has it's own dedicated spotter plane. More lenient here on the west coast, I have no problems at 11mph over.
Quote: DeMangoThe State Senate has passed a bill to up the speed limit to 75mph on the interstate highways and other limited access toll roads. The State House is expected to follow suit. I did the calcs on my 620 mile jaunt past the "almost a casino" in Tampa, to Biloxi, and it will cut 1/2 hour on my travel time. Those driving from the southeast (Miami, Wet Bum Beach) will see even a greater savings.
Do you stop in at the "almost a casino" or just drive by ?
If you just drive by, isn't it cheaper (and a lot faster than 75 mph) to fly ?
Quote: tringlomaneCall me a wuss if you want, I think Florida is too populated for 75, imo.
I agree there may be some areas where 75 is too high; not sure how they are handling the areas where it will be allowed. The drive from Jacksonville to the western border on I-10 is mostly wide open (especially west of the I-75 interchange) and is a good area for the higher limit.
Anyway, if I where a Florida resident again (someday...), I would play more in Biloxi than anywhere else even if it meant less frequent trips overall. The casinos in Florida just don't work for me. The Victory? Maybe...but what do you do when you hit the felt a think you need to take a long break?
Quote: tringlomaneCall me a wuss if you want, I think Florida is too populated for 75, imo.
What does population have to do with anything? I assume that we are talking about a divided freeway here, not driving past someone's driveway. Obviously if there is a lot of traffic you can't drive the speed limit.
Speed limits are stupid anyway. They have nothing to do with safety; they are just tax collectors. If the road is empty, the speed that I can drive safely in my car may not be the same as the speed that you can drive safely in your car. If the road is not empty, then you should drive at a speed that is safe given the traffic and road conditions, regardless of the speed limit.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceWhat does population have to do with anything? I assume that we are talking about a divided freeway here, not driving past someone's driveway. Obviously if there is a lot of traffic you can't drive the speed limit.
Speed limits are stupid anyway. They have nothing to do with safety; they are just tax collectors. If the road is empty, the speed that I can drive safely in my car may not be the same as the speed that you can drive safely in your car. If the road is not empty, then you should drive at a speed that is safe given the traffic and road conditions, regardless of the speed limit.
This is exactly what I do. My FHP friends may not agree, but conditions and traffic movement have much more to do with how I drive than the speed limit. If it's bumper-to-bumper 85MPH on I95, then I'm going 85, not the speed limit of 70. Same thing when it's moving at 55. You're safest flowing with the river, not being a rock OR a rocket. People who insist on going the speed limit when traffic's 10-20MPH faster are the most dangerous drivers on that stretch of road, just because of what they cause to happen around them.
Quote: NewToCrapsDo you stop in at the "almost a casino" or just drive by ?
If you just drive by, isn't it cheaper (and a lot faster than 75 mph) to fly ?
Haven't seen the higher speed limit but SWA is giving decent rates, TPA to MSY, non stop even. My next trip should be by air. The only Hard Rock in my play list is in Biloxi.
SWA offers the deal with a new credit card and 50,000 points - 2 round trip tickets (with a $99 annual fee), but get one personal and one business and you have 100,000 points - 4 round trip tickets and then just obtain 10,000 more points and you can have a companion fly fee with each of your flights for more than a years flights.
Thats 4 round trip tickets to Vegas for two .....
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceSpeed limits are stupid anyway. They have nothing to do with safety ...
+1
The last speeding ticket I got was in Virginia a few years ago, clocked at 79mph. After the paperwork was done and the officer handed me the ticket, his parting words were "drive carefully." The irony is that I was driving carefully, but I was doing so faster than the posted arbitrary speed limit of 65mph. Forcing slowness upon those of us who are capable of going faster is a PITA and a waste of everybody's time. While I'm at it, forcing "safety" upon those of us who do not fear death is just as stupid.
Quote: onenickelmiracleConsidering how we still are dependent on a finite resource nobody has been able to replace, I'm not sure it's wise wasting any allowing more inefficiencies. Why should grandma have to pay more for gas because you waste it?
How fast should a finite resource be used up? That's an honest question, not a wisecrack.
Some future generation presumably is going to have to use electric cars and more mass transportation. In the meantime some very large, 'constant dollar' [real] increase in the price of oil will wean us off of our current practices [oil can be made from coal; complete exhaustion of all options is way in the future]. Should we just use it how we please, allowing supply and demand to regulate us? Or do you like the European model of making sure gas is expensive as hell?
Or is environmental impact really the more pressing issue?
Quote: tringlomaneFYI, Gov. Rick Scott vetoed the proposed increase in early June.
Aren't Florida voters going to veto Gov. Scott's governorship this November?
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I'm all for higher speed limits or no speed limits. I remember driving from Boston to Cape Cod and the speed limit on the highway was like 55 the whole way there. It was driving me crazy. People were driving 20+ mph over the speed limit. What is even the point?
Quote: onenickelmiracleConsidering how we still are dependent on a finite resource nobody has been able to replace, I'm not sure it's wise wasting any allowing more inefficiencies. Why should grandma have to pay more for gas because you waste it?
"Grandma" doesn't pay any more for gas than I do unless she chooses a higher-priced location to purchase it from, which isn't my problem.
Also, I don't think forcing me to stop (to issue me a ticket) so that I have to accelerate again from 0mph is more conservative than just letting me continue at the speed I was going. Con$ervation of ga$oline i$ not the rea$on poli¢e $top $peeder$. How about keeping the gas tanks of police cars empty? That would save tons of gasoline.
it's just stupid on one hand the government wanting more efficient vehicles, less reliance on foreign oil, more green energy, etc., then wasting the gains for nothing. Overall I would think a more careful approach would be better than just relying on hope.Quote: odiousgambitHow fast should a finite resource be used up? That's an honest question, not a wisecrack.
Some future generation presumably is going to have to use electric cars and more mass transportation. In the meantime some very large, 'constant dollar' [real] increase in the price of oil will wean us off of our current practices [oil can be made from coal; complete exhaustion of all options is way in the future]. Should we just use it how we please, allowing supply and demand to regulate us? Or do you like the European model of making sure gas is expensive as hell?
Or is environmental impact really the more pressing issue?
Are you sure you aren't having a stroke? Worst post of the Year.Quote: JB"Grandma" doesn't pay any more for gas than I do unless she chooses a higher-priced location to purchase it from, which isn't my problem.
Also, I don't think forcing me to stop (to issue me a ticket) so that I have to accelerate again from 0mph is more conservative than just letting me continue at the speed I was going. Con$ervation of ga$oline i$ not the rea$on poli¢e $top $peeder$. How about keeping the gas tanks of police cars empty? That would save tons of gasoline.
Quote: onenickelmiracleAre you sure you aren't having a stroke? Worst post of the Year.
Do you actually believe police stop you for "going too fast" because they care about you?
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceSpeed limits are stupid anyway. They have nothing to do with safety; they are just tax collectors.
Well, I don't know about that. ( I was just in an accident Friday. Someone ran into me while I was stopped at a light)
You have secondary consequences as more speed is introduced.
A low speed accident is less likely to involve additional random uncontrolled travel. Fewer vehicles or objects are going to be involved.
Had I been hit at 30 I might have involved other vehicles either in front or even another lane or damage more property.
People can drive at 80, 85 but I'm willing to bet there will be more carnage when there is an accident on average. Even if the road is clear, a high rate of speed may put you into property or damage something you wouldn't have normally hit at a lower speed.
That sounds like a safety concern to me or someone else.
Quote: JBDo you actually believe police stop you for "going too fast" because they care about you?
Depends how fast you are going and how many dead kids he has pulled out of car wrecks lately !
I remember when crotch rockets first came out and some bad ass dudes on Harleys would pull kids over and talk to them.
Just down the street from the dealers.
Quote: ams288Aren't Florida voters going to veto Gov. Scott's governorship this November?
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I'm all for higher speed limits or no speed limits. I remember driving from Boston to Cape Cod and the speed limit on the highway was like 55 the whole way there. It was driving me crazy. People were driving 20+ mph over the speed limit. What is even the point?
I lived in Atlanta for 2 years, speed limit was 55 MPH there ~15-20 miles within downtown. If you didn't go 70 in non-trafficked periods, you were getting passed. The real speed you can go/should go is set by the local police. In GA, they didn't give you points for < 15 MPH over, so 69 MPH is always safe on the interstate there I think barring traffic.
As for Florida, the only portions I drove was I-75 South to the Florida Turnpike to Orlando and I-4 from Orlando to St. Augustine. I could argue the Florida Turnpike to be upped to 75 MPH when we drove it due to good road condition/lack of traffic.
No speed limits are a bad idea I think, but the speed limit should generally be the "85th percentile" of "free flow" traffic as most civil engineers tend to think. Roughly 70 MPH for rural, and 75 MPH for "banjo chord" rural. 80 MPH could be acceptable, but those states that actually want that probably don't tax their citizens enough to safely allow it.
And this thread got more comments after the necrobump...lol
I really didn't intend that at all, but it also would seem ridiculous to me and I think just about anyone living in the area to be doing about half that on a highway straight as a string without so much as a pole or porta-potty or a jackrabbit amidst the vast expanse of desert populated by scorpions and scrub. Context matters to what is fast. I was accidentally too fast for my taste that night, even though the vehicle and conditions were okay enough with it to allow me not to notice right away what I'd started to do, so I set the cruise thingy now, but in large areas of the west time and distance does have a different meaning that doesn't directly translate to some other places. Oh, and that little two-seat sports car prolly still gets better mileage at triple digits than the kind of 16-seat Buick Behemoth SUX assault vehicle the size of a small house that I see some folks prefer to putter around in to fetch a loaf of bread. Plus, if I have a date there's no chance she'll start eyeing it for where to eventually put a child safety seat; that's totally off the table at first glance.
Quote: odiousgambitHow fast should a finite resource be used up? That's an honest question, not a wisecrack.
Some future generation presumably is going to have to use electric cars and more mass transportation. In the meantime some very large, 'constant dollar' [real] increase in the price of oil will wean us off of our current practices [oil can be made from coal; complete exhaustion of all options is way in the future]. Should we just use it how we please, allowing supply and demand to regulate us? Or do you like the European model of making sure gas is expensive as hell?
Or is environmental impact really the more pressing issue?
Acctually we should mostly use it as we please and avoid the Euro model like the plague. In Europe, the high price mostly goes to the looters in the government. In the USA the producers keep more even if the looters get almost the biggest share both at the pump and at the cigarette counter inside thought the later is another story.
Without high profits there would be no gas from coal and no fracking. No ND boom which will soon spread to Montana. There might be outright shortage where you only get so many gallons in the first place.
Humankind has about 1,000 years left until implosion. It is easy to see the next 2-500 years needs being met with what is in the ground, and by which time someone will have found something else. In just 100 years population decline will mean a reduction in consumption.
The environment will fix itself as it always does.
