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May 25th, 2011 at 5:43:10 AM permalink
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Even when he slowed down at 70 I thought he had it made. .



Actually, thats the sign that he's about to shut down. Its a young man's sport, doing it when you're over 50 is flirting with dropping dead on the spot. You're stressing out your whole system, not fun.
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May 25th, 2011 at 6:47:57 AM permalink
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How were the innocent bystanders reacting? And on to the really important question: Did he get the crosswords correct?



Some other people in the restaurant were watching from a distance. A group of high school students seemed to be the most amused by it.

Nobody checked the crosswords because David failed the eating leg. If anyone has an interest in checking them I can scan and post them.
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May 25th, 2011 at 6:58:33 AM permalink
I wouldn't have been able to get half way thru one puzzle!

Call it morbid curiosity, but, yeah, I'd like to know how he did on that part.
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May 25th, 2011 at 7:44:42 AM permalink
Oh, never mind all that!

Where did you go to dinner afterwards? ;)
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May 25th, 2011 at 8:07:25 AM permalink
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Group photo. Not seen is JimMorrison, who took the picture. I'm holding my $100 in winnings.



Missing, would like to see that.
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May 25th, 2011 at 8:35:10 AM permalink
Quote: gofaster87

The photo is on the previous page unless you're talking about missing jimmy boy.



Something tells me my computer didnt load all the photos. Slow network for the computers at work and really bad today.
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May 25th, 2011 at 8:44:31 AM permalink
Here are scans of the crosswords. As with most of my photos, click on them for a larger version.


May 23


May 24
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May 25th, 2011 at 2:13:15 PM permalink
I'm loving it!

A game effort David! SooPoo, any thoughts on what David could do different next time? Maybe having warmer nuggets, or not dipping?
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May 25th, 2011 at 3:00:13 PM permalink
What was he listening to in his earbuds during the XWords and eating? "Eye of the tiger"? "Eat It"?
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May 25th, 2011 at 3:54:52 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

A game effort David! SooPoo, any thoughts on what David could do different next time? Maybe having warmer nuggets, or not dipping?



He should bring along a Yiddishe mother to harangue him: "Eat, mine kind! You're all skin and bones!"
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May 25th, 2011 at 4:14:33 PM permalink
I don't understand the running part. It would engorge you leg muscles with blood, which is needed for the stomach in an eating contest. Also, warm food is easier to eat in a contest, its going to get heated up in your stomach anyway.
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May 25th, 2011 at 5:24:19 PM permalink
Quote: gofaster87

Hey, thats what the challenge was. If it was a full hour to eat 100 nuggets and nothing else it wouldn't have been too hard.



The stomach isn't the size of a basketball, its quite small. A greasy McLardNug is very slow to digest, so your stomach will just get filled up till you barf. I don't think its easy at all.
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May 25th, 2011 at 5:44:47 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

The stomach isn't the size of a basketball, its quite small. A greasy McLardNug is very slow to digest, so your stomach will just get filled up till you barf. I don't think its easy at all.



The stomach is elastic, and can actually accomodate a pretty large volume. It's the muscles that need to be worked on. Check out this photo of former world hot dog eating champion, Kobayashi with 60+ dogs. You can actually see pointy ends of hot dogs pushing up under his skin.

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May 25th, 2011 at 6:01:11 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

The stomach is elastic



Its somewhat elastic, its not made out of rubber. Generally, 4.5 to 5 pounds of food and you're done. Bread products are deceptive, they have a lot of air in them.
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May 25th, 2011 at 6:13:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Generally, 4.5 to 5 pounds of food and you're done. Bread products are deceptive, they have a lot of air in them.



Didn't we decide before that 100 nuggets weigh approximately 3.5 lbs?
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May 25th, 2011 at 8:09:42 PM permalink
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Didn't we decide before that 100 nuggets weigh approximately 3.5 lbs?



I thought it 4.4 pounds if each one weighs 20 grams.
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May 25th, 2011 at 9:32:45 PM permalink
David had successfully eaten a 6 pound burrito before, the same size as the B3 Sahara burrito. With the McNuggets the issue was not so much the weight but the grease. It is a lot harder than it looks.
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May 26th, 2011 at 9:02:58 AM permalink
I missed seeing the results since my power went out Tuesday afternoon and wasn't restored until late Wednesday night. Very impressive run time in that heat and also with the puzzles!

85 nuggets is above and beyond after that run. Too bad the challenge wasn't for 75 nuggets!
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May 26th, 2011 at 10:31:08 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

David had successfully eaten a 6 pound burrito before, the same size as the B3 Sahara burrito. With the McNuggets the issue was not so much the weight but the grease.



Maybe it was the ground up beaks and feathers? And chicken poop?

Or is it high quality mystery meat?


See ...that would be my issue. Anything labeled a "nugget", bleh.
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May 26th, 2011 at 6:38:37 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

With the McNuggets the issue was not so much the weight but the grease. It is a lot harder than it looks.



Last summer I found myself i n Springfield, IL, at Joe Roger's Chili Parlor. For fans of Man v. Food, Adam Richman tied the record for eating the firebrand chili. THe record was 5. I love spicy food, so I thought Id give it a whirl. I only made it through 2 bowls, because all the chili was is spicy ground beef in a grease.
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May 26th, 2011 at 8:01:37 PM permalink
Quote: INkyatari

Last summer I found myself i n Springfield, IL, at Joe Roger's Chili Parlor. For fans of Man v. Food, Adam Richman tied the record for eating the firebrand chili. THe record was 5. I love spicy food, so I thought Id give it a whirl. I only made it through 2 bowls, because all the chili was is spicy ground beef in a grease.



Speaking of Chili, I challenge anyone combing to WoVCon to eat a bowl of Binion's chili. I hear it is really greasy and disgusting.
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May 26th, 2011 at 9:19:45 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Speaking of Chili, I challenge anyone combing to WoVCon to eat a bowl of Binion's chili. I hear it is really greasy and disgusting.



Consider it done. Whats the forfeit/reward?
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May 26th, 2011 at 10:35:05 PM permalink
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Consider it done. Whats the forfeit/reward?



$20 says you can't eat the whole bowl. If they don't have it on the menu any longer, bets have no action.
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May 27th, 2011 at 12:01:42 AM permalink
Love the Sabres shirt in those photos. Fun challenge. Too bad they weren't wings from Duff's. ;)
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May 27th, 2011 at 6:14:11 AM permalink
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$20 says you can't eat the whole bowl. If they don't have it on the menu any longer, bets have no action.



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May 27th, 2011 at 8:12:10 AM permalink
THANK YOU all who showed up and those who helped participate via the forum. I will answer some of the questions posed since the event concluded. The 'dunking' and drinking water is apparently a necessary way to be able to get them down fast enough. David said he did not stop because of a 'full' feeling, but rather a nearly certain 'reversal of fortune' due to the grease caused gag reflex. He also believed that the run likely had little to do with his failure, and he does not think he would have been able to do the 100 even had he not run. He believes he probably could have gotten to 90 -92 if he had a full hour, but of course we will never know. As far as the puzzles, David says that puzzles as easy as the NY Times Monday and Tuesday ones present almost a zero chance of him making an error. He says he would almost assuredly finish them even if he only had the accross clues. As far as David post race, he did not throw up, and thus swallowed and digested 86 McNuggets. He will need to start eating again in a few days.... All those who bet against David, please PM me with info on how I can happily pay off. I will start a new thread to describe my revelations from the rest of my trip, which was quite enjoyable.
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June 28th, 2011 at 10:34:41 PM permalink
Sorry this took so long but I finally formatted and uploaded the videos for the WoV challange.

Part 1
Part 2
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June 28th, 2011 at 10:38:35 PM permalink
For those who care, David has paid off those who furnished mailing info, and the others have given me instructions on how to wager their $5 on my next casino trip. I haven't made it to my local casino since Vegas. By the way, for those of you who watch the Nathan's contest on July 4, NONE of the competitors also do crossword puzzles right before.......
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June 29th, 2011 at 10:19:55 AM permalink
Yesterday I finally put up the WoV challenge video. However, SOOPOO posted right after that, starting a new page, so I don't know if anybody saw mine. I simply indicated the two links below to the videos.

Part 1
Part 2

Per my own thumbtacking rule, here is my joke as payment.

Knock knock
Who's there?
Sherwood.
Sherwood who?
Sherwood like to meet you.
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June 29th, 2011 at 10:28:22 AM permalink
Thanks for editing and posting the videos Wizard. I wonder if David would have been able to get it all down if he had stood up, like the Nathan's hot dog contestants? I think sitting puts pressure on your stomach, while standing allows gravity (and maybe jumping up and down) to draw material further down.
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June 29th, 2011 at 10:38:14 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Yesterday I finally put up the WoV challenge video. However, SOOPOO posted right after that, starting a new page, so I don't know if anybody saw mine. I simply indicated the two links below to the videos.

Part 1
Part 2



Free bump :P

Seriously, the video is very well done. You have the interview with David before the event, information about the challenge, shots of everything that took place, explanations, follow-though, etc. The only defect was a shot of the pavement for 15 seconds or so on part one. Oh, and no mention of the side bets made online. It's a good decision to leave that out.
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June 29th, 2011 at 11:32:09 AM permalink
This is even funnier once you watch it. I hope to see more Wizard Challenges in the future. Personally, the crossword puzzles would be the hardest aspect for me, though I couldn't eat 100 chicken nuggets on the best of days. Heck, I doubt I would be able to eat 20!

I am still waiting for SOOPOO to tell me that I can retire after hitting my $20,000,000 jackpot on the $5 slot machine!
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June 29th, 2011 at 11:40:42 AM permalink
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This is even funnier once you watch it. I hope to see more Wizard Challenges in the future. Personally, the crossword puzzles would be the hardest aspect for me, though I couldn't eat 100 chicken nuggets on the best of days. Heck, I doubt I would be able to eat 20!

I am still waiting for SOOPOO to tell me that I can retire after hitting my $20,000,000 jackpot on the $5 slot machine!



As David and I are now on the way to our new 9000 square foot villa in the Cayman's, ........
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June 29th, 2011 at 11:45:05 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Sorry this took so long but I finally formatted and uploaded the videos for the WoV challange.

Part 1
Part 2



Reactions:

1. The crosswords are one of the more impressive things I've ever seen. Kudos to David.
2. I like the change of expression during the McNuggets from "I'm eating McNuggets!" to "...another f'ing nugget..." Every time we're back to watching David, he looks less and less happy.
3. Best $5 I ever spent (assuming there are no long-term negative implications for David's health...)
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April 2nd, 2016 at 6:25:56 AM permalink
For those who haven't been around WoV since 2011, my son, David Plotkin, has competed in the American Crossword Puzzle Tournament, essentially the de facto World Championship of crossword puzzling, for the last 8 years or so. He has been the champion junior puzzler (age 25 and under) 4 or 5 times, has won the B division once, and his highest overall finish was 4th place. Since he has been at Mississippi State and now University of Florida for his masters and PhD, he competes as a southerner and routinely wins the 'south'.
I'd say his odds of winning the 'south' are similar to UConn's womens basketball team winning the NCAA tourney. His goal is to finish in the top 3 overall, which would qualify him for the 'puzzle-off' on stage in front of a few thousand fans. I give him a 10% chance of accomplishing that.
By the way, he still holds the WoV record for McNuggets at 88, and he did that after running 2 miles, and doing 2 NYTimes crossword puzzles.
So from all my friends here on WoV, wish David positive variance this weekend......
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April 2nd, 2016 at 7:50:27 AM permalink
Positive variance, David!

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April 2nd, 2016 at 10:16:43 AM permalink
Three Sigmas to you Soopoo Jr.!
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April 2nd, 2016 at 4:42:57 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

p.s. I hear David (SooPoo jr.) is tied for second with four more crosswords to go.


Looks like he's in a three-way tie for second after six puzzles, 100 points (in effect, 4 minutes) behind the leader - the seventh is Sunday morning, after which the top three compete in a final, head-to-head puzzle, if I am reading this right.

Current Standings
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April 2nd, 2016 at 6:49:22 PM permalink
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Looks like he's in a three-way tie for second after six puzzles, 100 points (in effect, 4 minutes) behind the leader - the seventh is Sunday morning, after which the top three compete in a final, head-to-head puzzle, if I am reading this right.

Current Standings



The current leader is the 6-time past champion. SPjr is doing really well to be in it at all, but that's going to be a tough lead to overcome.
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April 3rd, 2016 at 9:37:38 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: ThatDonGuy

Looks like he's in a three-way tie for second after six puzzles, 100 points (in effect, 4 minutes) behind the leader - the seventh is Sunday morning, after which the top three compete in a final, head-to-head puzzle, if I am reading this right.

Current Standings



The current leader is the 6-time past champion. SPjr is doing really well to be in it at all, but that's going to be a tough lead to overcome.


I'm not 100% sure about this, but I think all he has to do is finish in the top three, and then they compete against each other in a single puzzle, with the fastest correct solve being the tournament winner. Based on a story on last year's tournament, it appears that there is a 1-second handicap for every 10 points, so if the 100-point lead holds up, Feyer would get a 10-second head start.

Fortunately for SooPoo Junior Nation, Anne Ellison had a miss in puzzle 5, or she would have been in second place 2 minutes clear of the three-way tie. Speaking of misses, I'm a little surprised 53 of the top 100 have perfect scores through the first six puzzles. (Meanwhile, "Dr. Fill," the crossword-solving computer, had a rather commanding lead after the first four, but somehow missed 35 words on puzzle #5.)

UPDATE: He was one minute faster than one of the other two, so he finished in the top three and qualified for the championship final. He was also one minute faster than Feyer, so I assume that cuts 2 1/2 seconds off of his head start...which is now 7 1/2 seconds. Still, there's no shame in second place - at least when it pays $1500 more than third.

Also, there were 68 perfect sets of 7 puzzles; the lowest finish among them was 217th.
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April 3rd, 2016 at 12:57:48 PM permalink
Update: his final standing was 3rd. He was tied for 2nd with the eventual winner, but the other guy won the run-off, the past champion went 2nd, and SPjr went 3rd, for an incredibly respectable finish that he likely won't fully appreciate, since he had the trophy in his sights.

Regardless, incredibly well done, especially winning the South division!
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April 3rd, 2016 at 3:29:10 PM permalink
Thanks all that followed. He did the best on puzzle 7, which put him into the final 3. The 3 finalists were around even in the 'puzzle-off', until the final quadrant, when David made a mistake, and then compounded it. His 3rd place finish is really a great success, as this was his first time getting on the stage in the main competition. He finished 4th one time before.
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April 3rd, 2016 at 5:18:49 PM permalink
Yahoo!
Woohoo?
Whatever, extremely great results, hold heads high, tell 99.9% of the world to kiss your ass ;-)
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
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April 3rd, 2016 at 5:20:21 PM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

Yahoo!
Woohoo?
Whatever, extremely great results, hold heads high, tell 99.9% of the world to kiss your ass ;-)



Thanks 2F. By the way, he did win $1000 for his effort, and hopefully will spend it and have some fun rather than save it....
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April 3rd, 2016 at 6:45:47 PM permalink
Congrats to SooPoo Jr from an alum of the University of Florida! :)
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December 18th, 2020 at 11:06:30 AM permalink
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Here is what you've all been waiting for, the results of the Vegas Challenge. In attendance were SooPoo, David (SooPoo jr.), gofaster87 (who I can confirm is not Rob Singer), Joel (a friend of mine who previously attempted 100 McNuggets, and got to 85), Joel's son, JimMorrison, and me.

I drove my Clark High School before McDonalds and the track was full of kids doing all sorts of after school sports. So using that track was out. Per AmyJoel's warning, I determined that it was just under half a mile from the McDonalds down Arville to Penwood Ave.. So we agreed he would run there and back twice. Before getting started the McNuggets were ordered, because David wanted them cool, and he prepared a lemon flavored drink, to help balance the grease of the McNuggets.

Shortly after 5:00 David started off on the run. Despite being on a sidewalk, with some draffic to dodge, he completed the 2-mile run in about 15 minutes, which is quite good. He ran right into McDonalds and got to work on the two New York Times crosswords. I thought that he had to two of them. He finished those in about five minutes, not much more time than it would take me to write letters at random.

Then it was onto the main attraction, 100 Chicken McNuggests, and he had 40 minutes left. SooPoo tended to all the particulars, making sure he had enough water and lemonade, and coaching. David dug right in, eating them as fast as possible. He dipped them in lemonade and took frequent drinks of water. Joel commented he liked the idea of dunking the McNuggets, but thought he was drinking too much water.

The first 50 McNuggets went by quite fast and with little difficulty. At that point David started to slow down a bit, he face got more pale, and it was clear that he was hitting the uphill part. At about the 60 point the peanut gallery thought he would still succeed, and lines were bandied around about -200 as the line on the "yes," but no in-progress bets were finalized. However, he obvious he was started to feel the pain more. At point one he took about a one-minute break to compose himself.

At about the 70 McNugget point he was still going at a steady, albeit much slower pace. He was face was sweaty, and perhaps a little green. Soopoo was offering encouraging words, but said he if didn't feel comfortable he should throw in the towel. David was obviously determined to give it his best effort, and keep right on going.

A about the 80 McNugget point it was obvious the pain was about twice as much as at the 70 point. With about 15 minutes left at this point, David did his best to eat as fast as possible, but you could tell each McNugget was both a mental and physical challenge to get down. It was very suspenseful for the audience. I think everyone thought he would probably do it, but only with great difficulty.

After swallowing nugget number 86 (someone correct me if I'm wrong), David stuffed two more in his mouth, but was having trouble swallowing. Then he said that some just came back up. Evidently just a little, because he never vomited. Father SooPoo recommended that he quit, and David agreed. What was left of McNuggets 87 or 88 he spit into an empty McDonalds bag at the ready. It was over and the "no" side won.

SooPoo paid the winners present immediately and everybody congratulated David on an outstanding effort. I'm very sure SooPoo will pay any other winners by mail, Paypal, or whatever.

Afterward there was a lot of discussion between GoFaster87 and JimMorrison about another eating competition for WoVCon. Maybe Joel will participate too. I'm sure there will be a thread about it soon.

So, that is it. Here are some pictures of the big event. Click on any picture for a larger version.


SooPoo and David. GoFaster87 is on the left.


Me and David.


First crossword. Note the drop of sweat waiting to fall off the nose.


First crossword completed, held by SooPoo. David working on the second one.


About Nugget 62.


This was just about the last one.


Group photo. Not seen is JimMorrison, who took the picture. I'm holding my $100 in winnings.



Boy how time flies! With the discussion on a different thread about betting on this forum, I went back to see my $100 bill in Wizard’s hand!

Mostly I’m posting to give the forum some good news.... my son graduated with his PhD in entomology today! University of Florida.
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December 18th, 2020 at 11:38:04 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

With the discussion on a different thread about betting on this forum



And this is how you properly handle payment for a challenge without weeks of griping and drama.

Quote: SOOPOO

I consider your bet booked. Do not send money until after the competition.

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