Croupier
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January 31st, 2011 at 5:19:12 AM permalink
I was reading an interesting article in the Las Vegas Sun today.

The article basically states that Taxi Drivers are saying that they are only long hauling as the have quotas to meet. Is the quotas for drivers system standard throughout the US?

As some of you know I was screwed by a taxi driver last year even though I should have known better, so I am still quite interested in the whole thing. I was one of the people that didnt report it. I should have, but I blame the 12 hour flight, and being awake for 18 hours.
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JIMMYFOCKER
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January 31st, 2011 at 5:28:04 AM permalink
Take the monorail or rent a car.
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January 31st, 2011 at 5:28:34 AM permalink
Quote: Croupier

I was reading an interesting article in the Las Vegas Sun today.

The article basically states that Taxi Drivers are saying that they are only long hauling as the have quotas to meet. Is the quotas for drivers system standard throughout the US?

As some of you know I was screwed by a taxi driver last year even though I should have known better, so I am still quite interested in the whole thing. I was one of the people that didnt report it. I should have, but I blame the 12 hour flight, and being awake for 18 hours.



Not a suprise, any driving job like that is rough. I was a courrier once and can sympathize with them. Short trips kill you. What I don't get is why they would be againsgt the $20 flat-rate to any strip casino?
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Croupier
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January 31st, 2011 at 5:30:29 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman



Not a suprise, any driving job like that is rough. I was a courrier once and can sympathize with them. Short trips kill you. What I don't get is why they would be againsgt the $20 flat-rate to any strip casino?



Me either. I would happily pay that airport to strip. Probably because $20 is half of the $40 they get by long hauling.
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January 31st, 2011 at 7:34:54 AM permalink
My Vegas routine is quite set. I take the shuttle from the airport to the hotel. This is cheap ($12-$13 round trip), but there are three drawbacks:

1) If your hotel is off-strip or far north on-Strip, you'll be delivered last.
2) You have to wait for room in a shuttle, often watching one or two depart before it's your turn (all this at terminal 2 BTW)
3) The pickup time is imposed on you by the shuttle company. They do ask when your flight leaves, so you can lie and state a later time.

The rest of the time I move about by bus. First time out I tried the monorail. It's nice enough, very quiet and clean, and not crowded. But the walk to the stations is quite long, sometimes through deserted places, and is only good on the Strip. It's great if you need to visit the convention center, though, from what other have posted here. And it's more expensive than the bus. I also take advantage of complimentary shuttle service to places like Rio.

Now, this works well for me for two reasons. I travel alone and am on the patient side. This might work out well for two people, if they're patient; there's also a lot of waiting fro the bus. But for three or more, cabs can be cheaper if the fee's divided by person, or they alternate paying it. Even renting a car can be cheaper.
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January 31st, 2011 at 8:19:01 AM permalink
The taxicab company can assign a driver to non-airport qualified taxi... this is the ultimate punishment for his turning in a trip sheet that shows he is not longhauling.

Sometimes I don't blame a driver... he is at the front of the line at one casino and he doesn't want to deliver a woman to the next door casino, he wants a longer trip in return for his having waited. He doesn't want a woman who is afraid to walk a few hundred feet at night. He wants a more substantial fare. However, I do think he should be required to obey the rules.

I've seen one guy in Vegas photographing Long Haulers... don't think anything ever happens to their hack licenses though.
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January 31st, 2011 at 8:45:59 AM permalink
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The rest of the time I move about by bus. First time out I tried the monorail. It's nice enough, very quiet and clean, and not crowded. But the walk to the stations is quite long, sometimes through deserted places, and is only good on the Strip. It's great if you need to visit the convention center, though, from what other have posted here. And it's more expensive than the bus. I also take advantage of complimentary shuttle service to places like Rio.



I am one of the few people (it seems) that actually likes the monorail. Yes, the walks can be tiresome, but at places like the Flamingo and IP/Harrahs stations I have seen security guards at night, and the MGM and Hilton stops are attached to the Hotels. I find it quicker than the bus, even with walking and is often more comfortable.

For Downtown I always take the Deuce, as I dont mind sightseeing.

But back on the subject of Taxis, IMHO the long hauling situation seems to have gotten worse. In my first trip in 2007, I remember getting a taxi for most distance runs. I remember the drivers being nice and earning their tip.

Last year most of my Taxi Drivers were non Americans, far more surly and in no way compared to the drivers I had first time. Could this be a result of the economic slowdown?
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Nareed
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January 31st, 2011 at 9:34:24 AM permalink
Quote: Croupier

I am one of the few people (it seems) that actually likes the monorail. Yes, the walks can be tiresome, but at places like the Flamingo and IP/Harrahs stations I have seen security guards at night, and the MGM and Hilton stops are attached to the Hotels. I find it quicker than the bus, even with walking and is often more comfortable.



First trip I chronicled how much walking I did to and from monorail stations. At the Hilton the train pretty much leaves you at the casino. At the MGM the station is actually on the back of the hotel, so the walk to the casino, shops or restaurants is still long. At the Sahara they also have security at the entrance to the station.

But I'll tell you my problem. I did not go as far as TI or the Fashion Show Mall, ebcause if I had I would have had to walk back, then again walk to the monorail station. By then I figured I woudl return the following year, and first trips to Vegas can be overwhelming (it was for me, dazzling, too). SO it was ok to miss stuff, because I'd catch it next time. But overall I prefer the Deuce and whatever the other Strip bus is called this week.

Oh, I would take the monorail if I were in a hurry to go from Downtown to the MGM. But even then I wonder if the walk to and from the stations at Sahara and MGM wouldn't take lnger thana good Strip traffic jam.

About taxis, I've taken two: a round trip from Sahara to the Outlet Mall up north. I think I paid $18 or so overall, but I wouldn't swear to it. As best I could tell neither cabby took the long way round.
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January 31st, 2011 at 11:06:19 AM permalink
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The article basically states that Taxi Drivers are saying that they are only long hauling as the have quotas to meet. Is the quotas for drivers system standard throughout the US?



Crap like this is why I go to Reno.

I understand if you call the LV Taxicab Authority while you are in the cab or at your destination, you will generally get a reduction in the fare, either because you've started a formal complaint or because the cabbie doesn't want the hassle. Sounds like the cabbies deal with the 5% of complainers as a cost of doing business, and don't really get penalized other than the difference in fare.

I know the system with leased cabs in Chicago is you pay a set rate per shift, and keep everything you make. I think this includes gas, or at worst you have to fill it back up at the same level as you got it at. Pretty simple and there's no quota, just eat what you kill. As I recall, one round trip between O'Hare and downtown just about covers the cost, and it's possible to do four or five roundtrips per shift. Any city cab can go to ORD or MDW but the waiting time at the airport can be long.

In some cities cabbies can receive some sort of "front of the line" pass if they're back at the airport within, say 30 minutes or so, meaning they had a short fare from the airport.
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January 31st, 2011 at 12:21:21 PM permalink
If the LV taxi authority really wanted to solve this problem they could do what NYC's Taxi authority does. As you que in the cab line at any of the major airports a person asks you where you are going. Their handheld prints out a slip w the expected cost and time frame. It tells you if the amount is significantly different to contact them with the code you have on your ticket.

Cabs in LV have never been an issue. I as most Goodly Americans must have a car at my disposal 24/7. :)
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