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January 21st, 2026 at 12:52:25 PM permalink
I thought a Nelson Mandela Effect thread would be a good idea. 😀 A Nelson Mandela Effect is when we remember things happening slightly different or didn't actually happen at all.💡🤔


For Steel Magnolias I remember M'Lynn saying,"I was there for Shelby's first breath and I was there for Shelby's last breath." The line is actually something like ,"I was there when that wonderful creature came into my life and I was there when that wonderful creature left my life."💡

For The Proud Family, I AND EVERYBODY ELSE DISTINCTIVELY REMEMBERS Penny's dress as a Singing Superstar named Pennay being BLUE when this episode aired on TV originally On YouTube airings of her dress it is RED. It was BLUE on TV BLUE. 👗

What are your Nelson Mandela Effects? 😀💡🤔
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January 21st, 2026 at 2:17:11 PM permalink
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I thought a Nelson Mandela Effect thread would be a good idea. 😀 A Nelson Mandela Effect is when we remember things happening slightly different or didn't actually happen at all.💡🤔


For Steel Magnolias I remember M'Lynn saying,"I was there for Shelby's first breath and I was there for Shelby's last breath." The line is actually something like ,"I was there when that wonderful creature came into my life and I was there when that wonderful creature left my life."💡

For The Proud Family, I AND EVERYBODY ELSE DISTINCTIVELY REMEMBERS Penny's dress as a Singing Superstar named Pennay being BLUE when this episode aired on TV originally On YouTube airings of her dress it is RED. It was BLUE on TV BLUE. 👗

What are your Nelson Mandela Effects? 😀💡🤔
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I remember a forum that didn’t have a specific poster starting the most inane threads?

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January 21st, 2026 at 3:08:36 PM permalink
That Bruce Springsteen wrote and sung "A Matter Of Trust." It sounds like Springsteen's tortured voice and like an overwrought, Johnny One-Note Springsteen song but it's not, it's Billy Joel having a bad day. And I just relearned this a couple of weeks ago.
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January 21st, 2026 at 3:30:37 PM permalink
I have a vivid memory of an event that evidently happened differently.

This part is real and absolutely happened- one of the most popular kids in my freshman class was a bit of a wiseass. He was walking into class before the bell, singing aloud. The teacher blindsided him with a slap to the side of the head that knocked him off his feet. When the student was suspended for a week and kicked off the football team, the rest of our class got upset.
A large part of the class agreed that after lunch period, we would all sing a song as we left lunch, continue singing as we entered class, and stop only at the bell. Of the sixty or so that agreed to participate, only about thirty went through, and I stopped after entering my classroom and seeing my teacher's eyes. The ring leaders got a few days' detention, and the football players ran some extra laps.

All of that absolutely happened, but as I remember it, we sang The Look for the Union Label " song, only everything I find tells me the song was written several years afterward. One friend recalls us singing Ode to Modern Man/Song of Joy- which was very popular at the time, while a classmate thinks we sang the school fight song
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
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January 21st, 2026 at 4:10:51 PM permalink
My favorite example of the Nelson Mandela effect is my remembering Ed McMahon delivering all those big Publishers Clearing House checks.
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January 21st, 2026 at 5:04:22 PM permalink
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My favorite example of the Nelson Mandela effect is my remembering Ed McMahon delivering all those big Publishers Clearing House checks.
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That's a VERY popular Nelson Mandela Effect. I also remembered that Ed McMahon delivered big Publishers Clearing House checks. LAST year I looked up ,"Publishers Clearing House Goes Bankrupt," and found out that Ed McMahon NEVER delivered big Publishers Clearing House checks. He delivered big checks for a similar company, American Family Publishers. A LOT of people got the Publishers mixed up since Publishers was in both companies.💡 Ed even has at least one commercial stating to look for his face on the envelope. His face was ok AFP, not PCH
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January 21st, 2026 at 5:15:46 PM permalink
It can be exploited intentionally for theatrical effect.

Remember seeing people being eaten by birds in Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds?

No you don't.
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January 21st, 2026 at 5:17:27 PM permalink
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For The Proud Family, I AND EVERYBODY ELSE DISTINCTIVELY REMEMBERS Penny's dress as a Singing Superstar named Pennay being BLUE when this episode aired on TV originally On YouTube airings of her dress it is RED. It was BLUE on TV BLUE. 👗



https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tFP1zcsNM1Ks8w1MTZg9JLLLFEvVkjMyVFITMovLVHITVUoKMovTVFIS8zNzKkEAEfKDxI&q=it%27s+all+about+me+proud+family&oq=it%27s+all+about+me+proud+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDQgBEC4YkQIYgAQYigUyBggAEEUYOTINCAEQLhiRAhiABBiKBTIICAIQABgWGB4yCAgDEAAYFhgeMgoIBBAAGAoYFhgeMg0IBRAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMg0IBhAAGIYDGIAEGIoFMgcIBxAAGO8FMgoICBAAGIAEGKIEMgcICRAhGI8C0gEJMTE5MDRqMGo0qAIBsAIB&client=ms-android-tmus-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Hmm. According to both YouTube and Google, Penny's dress as Pennay is RED. I and EVERYBODY ELSE who distinctively remembers her Superstar dress as Pennay being BLUE and not RED stand corrected. 💡
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January 22nd, 2026 at 6:18:10 AM permalink
Here's one of the well-known examples that I am a victim of as well.

In the James Bond film "Moonraker," "Dolly is portrayed as the love interest of the villain Jaws, played by Richard Kiel. Many viewers recall a scene where Jaws smiles at Dolly, revealing his metal teeth, and they believe Dolly reciprocates with a smile that shows her braces. However, upon reviewing the film, it becomes clear that Dolly does not have braces at all."

Well, I too remember that female character smiling and showing she had metal braces and the entire audience in the movie theater going "awWW." I remember that they then showed a quick shot of Jaws' face with an expression like "Ooh, I'm going to get laid". It was really funny.

It baffles me how my memory might be false and why so many other people seem to have that same memory.
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January 22nd, 2026 at 6:36:11 AM permalink
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Here's one of the well-known examples that I am a victim of as well.

In the James Bond film "Moonraker," "Dolly is portrayed as the love interest of the villain Jaws, played by Richard Kiel. Many viewers recall a scene where Jaws smiles at Dolly, revealing his metal teeth, and they believe Dolly reciprocates with a smile that shows her braces. However, upon reviewing the film, it becomes clear that Dolly does not have braces at all."

Well, I too remember that female character smiling and showing she had metal braces and the entire audience in the movie theater going "awWW." I remember that they then showed a quick shot of Jaws' face with an expression like "Ooh, I'm going to get laid". It was really funny.

It baffles me how my memory might be false and why so many other people seem to have that same memory.
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Jaws had a love interest? 😱😳 He doesn't DESERVE a love interest. He's a serial killer,! 😱😳
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January 22nd, 2026 at 1:13:36 PM permalink
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Here's one of the well-known examples that I am a victim of as well.

In the James Bond film "Moonraker," "Dolly is portrayed as the love interest of the villain Jaws, played by Richard Kiel. Many viewers recall a scene where Jaws smiles at Dolly, revealing his metal teeth, and they believe Dolly reciprocates with a smile that shows her braces. However, upon reviewing the film, it becomes clear that Dolly does not have braces at all."

Well, I too remember that female character smiling and showing she had metal braces and the entire audience in the movie theater going "awWW." I remember that they then showed a quick shot of Jaws' face with an expression like "Ooh, I'm going to get laid". It was really funny.

It baffles me how my memory might be false and why so many other people seem to have that same memory.
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Jaws had a love interest? 😱😳 He doesn't DESERVE a love interest. He's a serial killer,! 😱😳
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He was apparently so beloved a character, that the filmmakers made him a sympathetic villain — with a love interest! Did he do a heel turn? Don’t answer that — I’ll have to watch again!
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January 22nd, 2026 at 1:39:58 PM permalink
How could I have forgotten to mention THE quintessential Nelson Mandela Effect of all time? Nelson Mandela Effect was named when a lot of people thought that Nelson Mandela died in prison 27 years prior. The truth is, Nelson Mandela spent 27 years in prison, he hadn't died 27 years in prison prior. People merely mixed up,"27 years in prison and died 27 years prior in prison." 💡

Also, MY naming it Nelson Mandela Effect is ironically slightly wrong itself. It's actually Mandela Effect. 🤭
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January 22nd, 2026 at 2:18:34 PM permalink
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Here's one of the well-known examples that I am a victim of as well.

In the James Bond film "Moonraker," "Dolly is portrayed as the love interest of the villain Jaws, played by Richard Kiel. Many viewers recall a scene where Jaws smiles at Dolly, revealing his metal teeth, and they believe Dolly reciprocates with a smile that shows her braces. However, upon reviewing the film, it becomes clear that Dolly does not have braces at all."

Well, I too remember that female character smiling and showing she had metal braces and the entire audience in the movie theater going "awWW." I remember that they then showed a quick shot of Jaws' face with an expression like "Ooh, I'm going to get laid". It was really funny.

It baffles me how my memory might be false and why so many other people seem to have that same memory.
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And what short memories everybody here has. I posted about this in a thread I started a year ago called do we live in a simulation because the Mandela effect is one of the main examples of living in a simulation.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/38837-do-we-live-in-a-simulation/#post913870

"If you haven't seen this it will blow your mind. There's lots of videos I could have chosen but this one is the most forthright. In the movie the character of Jaws, the big guy with the metal in his mouth, has a girlfriend. At some point in the movie, it might be at the very end I don't remember, she smiles at him and she has a big set of very noticeable braces on her teeth and that's the big point of that scene, they have an attraction for each other because she has braces and he has a metal mouth.

Millions of people remember this and I'm one of them. I saw it in the movie theater and we all joked about it, everybody joked about it. But now this is a victim of what they call the Mandela effect, it's a false memory. Watch this video and then read the comments. Go on YouTube and look up another video about this and read thousands of comments of everybody who remembers her wearing braces. But when you look at any video of the movie now she's not wearing braces. Even if the video was done two years after the movie was made and people watched that video dozens of times and saw the braces, now the braces are gone. Many people are using this as an example that we live in a simulation and something in the algorithm changed to produce this effect. We all now have a false memory, but because there's so many of us we can share it. I don't know what's going on but it's freaky as hell. If you've seen a logical explanation let's hear it."
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January 22nd, 2026 at 7:47:26 PM permalink
Jesus Christ, as a film maker who actually worked in Hollywood and specifically in editorial and post production, there are often multiple versions of the same footage prepared.

There are numerous times when video versions have alternate footage used because a director changed their mind about a particular take.

I personally researched four extant versions and a reported laboratory version for the film Tintorera, Tiger Shark where people reported different endings (there were in fact three different endings, the domestic, the international and distribution requested ending.

I mean there is absolutely nothing shocking about different versions of films in both film and video formats.

Go purchase Mr. Arkadin by Orson Welles. Three different versions with alternate footage for the same scenes. This phenomenon goes back to the silent film era and is often discussed when silent films get restored. Which version of shots being compiled are correct when they basically are alternate shots

Most directors oversee the video transfers and make these types of decisions. It's remotely possible the footage was damaged and an alternate take was chosen but the big films usually have expensive back ups of the material (Interpositiives, internegatives, and even super expensive YGB separation masters) but you never know.
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January 22nd, 2026 at 8:34:48 PM permalink
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Jesus Christ, as a film maker who actually worked in Hollywood and specifically in editorial and post production, there are often multiple versions of the same footage prepared.

There are numerous times when video versions have alternate footage used because a director changed their mind about a particular take.

I personally researched four extant versions and a reported laboratory version for the film Tintorera, Tiger Shark where people reported different endings (there were in fact three different endings, the domestic, the international and distribution requested ending.

I mean there is absolutely nothing shocking about different versions of films in both film and video formats.

Go purchase Mr. Arkadin by Orson Welles. Three different versions with alternate footage for the same scenes. This phenomenon goes back to the silent film era and is often discussed when silent films get restored. Which version of shots being compiled are correct when they basically are alternate shots

Most directors oversee the video transfers and make these types of decisions. It's remotely possible the footage was damaged and an alternate take was chosen but the big films usually have expensive back ups of the material (Interpositiives, internegatives, and even super expensive YGB separation masters) but you never know.
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On YouTube they uploaded the director's cut of Columbiana where Cateleya's Parents, Fabio and Alicia are actually seen getting shot up. The theatrical version has Fabio and Alicia being shot up off screen.

I responded something like,"The version I watched in the theaters didn't show Cateleya's Parents being shot up, just showed Cateleya's sad and horrified expression. I responded,"That's because YouTube uploaded the Director's Cut. In the script for Columbiana it reads," Fabio and Alicia get shot up multiple times and their bodies jerk around like Marionettes being controlled by invisible strings."

YouTube showed the Director's Cut of Fabio and Alicia being shot up multiple times whereas the theatrical version doesn't show Fabio and Alicia being shot up on screen." Posters responded something like,"That actually makes a lot of sense." 💡
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January 22nd, 2026 at 8:40:13 PM permalink
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There are numerous times when video versions have alternate footage used because a director changed their mind about a particular take.
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Same thing happens in songs. Did the loser who met "Lola" drink champagne that tasted like "Coca-Cola" or "cherry cola"?

Both. No brand names on BBC so they did two versions.
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January 22nd, 2026 at 9:07:17 PM permalink
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There are numerous times when video versions have alternate footage used because a director changed their mind about a particular take.
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Same thing happens in songs. Did the loser who met "Lola" drink champagne that tasted like "Coca-Cola" or "cherry cola"?

Both. No brand names on BBC so they did two versions.
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The problem with the Jaws scene is the girl who played the part claims that she never had any metal braces in her mouth at all in any scene yet there are millions of us who remember it. There are thousands of people who have the video in VHS form from the 1980s who've seen it a hundred times and now when they go back and look at it that scene in their own videotape it has disappeared. Poof, it disappeared like it never existed. I saw this movie two or three times in the theater in 1979 because I had free movie passes in Santa Barbara and she had giant braces and now she doesn't. It's a blip in the simulation. It used to get away with these blips but now there's too much electronic evidence left laying around.
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January 22nd, 2026 at 9:26:22 PM permalink
Well looking it up this instance is a true Mandela effect.

They have production stills and testimony she wasn't wearing braces.

It's people's faulty memory. That's it

Not some simulation that some alien power thought changing a shot in Moonraker was important in any way.

Lots of people went to prison because of people's faulty memories.

One guy was convicted on multiple eyewitness testimony until video surfaces of him at a ball game with the camera clearly catching him at the time of murder in his seat.

Never trust people's memories. Sad but true.
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January 22nd, 2026 at 9:36:04 PM permalink
I also think it's a common memory problem, something intrinsic to people that gets triggered the same way in people. Illusionists do this all the time, everybody in the audience saw the same thing that they really didn't.

For a while I believed that the character Schruter in The Office was a security guard. The reason why is I vividly remember(?) an episode where he was wearing a security uniform, and I was also conflating him with Bull, the bailiff on Night Court, who is a similar character in a similar series.
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January 22nd, 2026 at 9:50:03 PM permalink
My personal Mandela effect actually turned out to be a correct but misapplied memory.

For years I specifically remembered in Godfather 3, Michael Corleone being shown photos of the guy who blew up his wife in the first film. He orders him killed. That's all I remember. Not sure if we actually see the revenge murder.

It wasn't in Godfather 3 on home video so I figured they cut it. But then Coppola did a director cut and I was anxiously watching for the errant scene. And it wasn't there either

However I was somewhat vindicated.

At the time Godfather 3 came out a special television event where they re edited Godfather one and two in chronological order (so starting in 1900 with Vito at age 9) was shown to promote the new film in theaters. I saw both very close to each other and the scene in question is in the television version. It was cut from Godfather 2 and has only been seen by the public that one showing.

But it really bothered me for decades that I remembered that scene so clearly and it wasn't there. I just misappropriated which film it appeared in.

Technically still faulty memory. The type of thing that could get the wrong someone convicted
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January 23rd, 2026 at 1:53:38 AM permalink
Anyone else waiting for a Soopoo apology?

I am glad to hear that the apparent Mandela effect in a movie or on TV can actually be that it really got changed instead, what with other footage available

I kind of realized this when I saw that a nude scene had been cut from the movie "The Hospital" [1971] when watching it again maybe15 years later.

I bought a whole DVD set of "Inspector Morse" and eagerly awaited some of my favorite moments. They never showed up.

One moment was when Sgt. Lewis gets some beer that Morse requested, and comes back with a six-pack of cans. "Tinned lager Lewis!" exclaims Morse in complete disgust. 'Lager' beer in Britain is the cheap mass produced stuff, if they are making better beer there it is ale... as opposed to Germany etc where their best beer is lager .

Another was when Morse was getting telephone calls asking for donations for Oxford. Morse protests, "My Alma Mater!? Reduced to this? Telephone solicitation?!!" This echoed my own feelings at the time. I finally had to put a stop to it which thankfully I was able to do . I don't know if that still goes on.

I used quotation marks because I am so sure those were the exact words in the scenes ... which never appeared in the DVDs
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January 23rd, 2026 at 5:52:50 AM permalink
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Anyone else waiting for a Soopoo apology?

I am glad to hear that the apparent Mandela effect in a movie or on TV can actually be that it really got changed instead, what with other footage available

I kind of realized this when I saw that a nude scene had been cut from the movie "The Hospital" [1971] when watching it again maybe15 years later.

I bought a whole DVD set of "Inspector Morse" and eagerly awaited some of my favorite moments. They never showed up.

One moment was when Sgt. Lewis gets some beer that Morse requested, and comes back with a six-pack of cans. "Tinned lager Lewis!" exclaims Morse in complete disgust. 'Lager' beer in Britain is the cheap mass produced stuff, if they are making better beer there it is ale... as opposed to Germany etc where their best beer is lager .

Another was when Morse was getting telephone calls asking for donations for Oxford. Morse protests, "My Alma Mater!? Reduced to this? Telephone solicitation?!!" This echoed my own feelings at the time. I finally had to put a stop to it which thankfully I was able to do . I don't know if that still goes on.

I used quotation marks because I am so sure those were the exact words in the scenes ... which never appeared in the DVDs

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It does happen a lot but apparently the Moonraker girl with braces is an actual Mandela effect situation.

But movies commonly have alternate takes used later. When they researched the Moonraker issue, that was something they took into consideration but it proved to be she never wore braces.
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January 23rd, 2026 at 7:31:52 AM permalink
I had a Mandela Effect when I remembered Remington Steel being a shaving razor brand! 🤣🤭 It turns out that Remington Steel is a TV show starring Pierce Brosnan! 🤣🤭
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January 23rd, 2026 at 9:57:55 AM permalink
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I had a Mandela Effect when I remembered Remington Steel being a shaving razor brand! 🤣🤭 It turns out that Remington Steel is a TV show starring Pierce Bronsan! 🤣🤭
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Yes, that's because of the old commercials for Remington razor blades, where they boast of the steel quality and imply they are made from melted-down swords.
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January 23rd, 2026 at 10:04:14 AM permalink
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I had a Mandela Effect when I remembered Remington Steel being a shaving razor brand! 🤣🤭 It turns out that Remington Steel is a TV show starring Pierce Bronsan! 🤣🤭
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Yes, that's because of the old commercials for Remington razor blades, where they boast of the steel quality and imply they are made from melted-down swords.
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nah, you're thinking of this

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January 23rd, 2026 at 10:11:50 AM permalink
a lot of old timers swore by the safety razors that were not stainless steel but steel that was "blued" to help keep it from rusting. Generally speaking, it's harder to get stainless steel as sharp as other steel.

the googlebot says the blued ones ceased to be made by 1965
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January 23rd, 2026 at 10:16:02 AM permalink
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I had a Mandela Effect when I remembered Remington Steel being a shaving razor brand! 🤣🤭 It turns out that Remington Steel is a TV show starring Pierce Bronsan! 🤣🤭
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Yes, that's because of the old commercials for Remington razor blades, where they boast of the steel quality and imply they are made from melted-down swords.
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nah, you're thinking of this...

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Yes, I know! That was an experiment, trying to induce Mandela Effect in others. It was either that, or that it was actually Tom Selleck that played Remington Steele.
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The full effect of the girl with the braces in Moonwalker you had to actually be in the theater in 1979 when she opens her mouth and she has these gigantic braces the whole place erupts in laughter and even applause because of the obvious joke. She's just like Jaws with a mouthful of metal. To find out decades later that the actress herself claims that this never happened actually had some people seeking psychiatric help it was that big a deal. I saw the movie three times in the theater I saw her braces three times I know what the frick I saw. The scene they have now with her just normal teeth it makes no sense in the movie, she's just a cute girl, there's no gimmick for the audience to react to. And to find it missing on your VHS that you've owned for decades, that would send some people over the top. Elon Musk believes we live in a simulation and he definitely believes the odds of us living in a base reality are almost zero.
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January 23rd, 2026 at 3:26:40 PM permalink
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The full effect of the girl with the braces in Moonwalker you had to actually be in the theater in 1979 when she opens her mouth and she has these gigantic braces the whole place erupts in laughter and even applause because of the obvious joke. She's just like Jaws with a mouthful of metal. To find out decades later that the actress herself claims that this never happened actually had some people seeking psychiatric help it was that big a deal. I saw the movie three times in the theater I saw her braces three times I know what the frick I saw. The scene they have now with her just normal teeth it makes no sense in the movie, she's just a cute girl, there's no gimmick for the audience to react to. And to find it missing on your VHS that you've owned for decades, that would send some people over the top. Elon Musk believes we live in a simulation and he definitely believes the odds of us living in a base reality are almost zero.
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You never saw it because it wasn't there.

What you did see was what you wanted to see. Probably even had some auto-suggestion as people around you in the theater suggested what they think they saw as well.

Auto-suggestion and Mandela effect or aliens making editorial decisions to James Bond 70's films? As Sherlock Holmes says, "Eliminate the impossible and whatever is left, however improbable is the truth"

The man who criticizes the very believable events of my gambling career believes we are in a simulation and also a few other things he is banned from discussing outside his thread.

Use the Sherlock Holmes quote on that.
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January 23rd, 2026 at 4:01:02 PM permalink
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I had a Mandela Effect when I remembered Remington Steel being a shaving razor brand! 🤣🤭 It turns out that Remington Steel is a TV show starring Pierce Bronsan! 🤣🤭
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Yes, that's because of the old commercials for Remington razor blades, where they boast of the steel quality and imply they are made from melted-down swords.
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nah, you're thinking of this


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Exactly. I used to use Wilkinson "Sword" blades, they were okay.

Remington, as far as I know, made electric shavers, and may still.
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January 23rd, 2026 at 5:38:23 PM permalink
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The full effect of the girl with the braces in Moonwalker you had to actually be in the theater in 1979 when she opens her mouth and she has these gigantic braces the whole place erupts in laughter and even applause because of the obvious joke. She's just like Jaws with a mouthful of metal. To find out decades later that the actress herself claims that this never happened actually had some people seeking psychiatric help it was that big a deal. I saw the movie three times in the theater I saw her braces three times I know what the frick I saw. The scene they have now with her just normal teeth it makes no sense in the movie, she's just a cute girl, there's no gimmick for the audience to react to. And to find it missing on your VHS that you've owned for decades, that would send some people over the top. Elon Musk believes we live in a simulation and he definitely believes the odds of us living in a base reality are almost zero.
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You never saw it because it wasn't there.

What you did see was what you wanted to see.
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I love it when a know it all tells you what you did or didn't do or saw or didn't see and they weren't even there because well, they know everything. Sorry to burst your fragile bubble but I have an extraordinarily good memory and I saw this movie three times in a movie theater and I know what I saw and others know what they saw so you can take your opinion and add $3 to it and maybe get a coffee at McDonald's. Because that's what's your opinion is worth, absolutely zero. I even remember joking around with the friends I took with me to see this movie about the little girl and her mouth full of metal we all had a good laugh.
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There is a Mandela Effect where people thought King Henry Viii has a painting of him holding a turkey leg. 🤣🤭 There is a painting of him but he's not holding a turkey leg, he's holding a club weapon .
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January 23rd, 2026 at 8:48:47 PM permalink
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The full effect of the girl with the braces in Moonwalker you had to actually be in the theater in 1979 when she opens her mouth and she has these gigantic braces the whole place erupts in laughter and even applause because of the obvious joke. She's just like Jaws with a mouthful of metal. To find out decades later that the actress herself claims that this never happened actually had some people seeking psychiatric help it was that big a deal. I saw the movie three times in the theater I saw her braces three times I know what the frick I saw. The scene they have now with her just normal teeth it makes no sense in the movie, she's just a cute girl, there's no gimmick for the audience to react to. And to find it missing on your VHS that you've owned for decades, that would send some people over the top. Elon Musk believes we live in a simulation and he definitely believes the odds of us living in a base reality are almost zero.
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You never saw it because it wasn't there.

What you did see was what you wanted to see.
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I love it when a know it all tells you what you did or didn't do or saw or didn't see and they weren't even there because well, they know everything. Sorry to burst your fragile bubble but I have an extraordinarily good memory and I saw this movie three times in a movie theater and I know what I saw and others know what they saw so you can take your opinion and add $3 to it and maybe get a coffee at McDonald's. Because that's what's your opinion is worth, absolutely zero. I even remember joking around with the friends I took with me to see this movie about the little girl and her mouth full of metal we all had a good laugh.
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You actually admitted that your memory is terrible.

When for example in a court of law someone was to say they witnessed an event and then strong evidence such as 1) testimony of the person in question like the Moonraker actress, photographic evidence taken on set, production notes and the actual footage in question were presented, the jury will almost always determine the person insisting people ignore the irrefutable evidence in place of someone's cockamamie testimony, "I saw it 3 times, my friends saw it 3 times, we're in a simulation where aliens changed the editing", the jury will find that person absolutely uncredible.

You are uncredible. You have stated a few other uncredible situations on this site

I do believe you believe you saw it. But when presented with the facts s credible person will admit their memory is faulty.

That's all there is to it.
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January 23rd, 2026 at 10:29:40 PM permalink
I rarely agree with Bob but I remember the braves also.
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But I also smoke a lot of grass 😂
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January 24th, 2026 at 1:00:09 AM permalink
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I love it when a know it all tells you what you did or didn't do or saw or didn't see and they weren't even there because well, they know everything. Sorry to burst your fragile bubble but I have an extraordinarily good memory and I saw this movie three times in a movie theater and I know what I saw and others know what they saw so you can take your opinion and add $3 to it and maybe get a coffee at McDonald's. Because that's what's your opinion is worth, absolutely zero. I even remember joking around with the friends I took with me to see this movie about the little girl and her mouth full of metal we all had a good laugh.
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Here's what I think happened: They wanted to shoot the scene exactly like you remembered it, but the actress didn't want braces put on so they used the magic of cinematography to imply it, so well that you saw and remembered what they were implying.

You don't want to know how I know this, but you can successfully do an armed robbery with a pantomime gun. (It also happens to be a good way to get yourself killed so I don't recommend it.) You use the language, motions, and demeanor of an armed robber, with skilled hand pantomime. It helps if you have a shill too, like an accomplice in line at the bank who screams "Oh my God he has a gun!" and drops to the floor. A bank can be robbed with an avocado. (https://www.foxnews.com/world/israel-bank-robbery-avocado-grenade)

So what likely happened is that with a combination of lighting, misdirection, camera angle and scene editing did a good enough job of implying she had braces that most people in the audience saw and remembered her having braces. Having Jaws react to her as if she has braces is a big help. I mentioned The Birds and that you never see anyone being eaten by birds, and such an image wouldn't have been allowed in a movie of that era so they had to imply it. You never saw anyone get stabbed in Psycho either. Even though they were firing automatic weapons all over the place, you didn't see a bullet hit anyone in the A-Team series. In Happy Days Fonzie was known as a fighter, but he goes through the whole series without punching anyone.

Not a sign of mental frailty or bad memory- all it means is that you enjoyed the movie the way its director intended.
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January 24th, 2026 at 1:05:50 AM permalink
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There is a Mandela Effect where people thought King Henry Viii has a painting of him holding a turkey leg. 🤣🤭 There is a painting of him but he'snot holding a turkey leg, he's holding a club weapon
🤣🤭
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Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.



We all learned this poem. But who said anything about him being an egg? Where did we get the idea "Humpty Dumpty is an egg" from this poem?

No, nothing about him being an egg in the poem. But the poem was in an popular illustrated children's book where he was drawn as an egg, and that's where we got that idea, with one generation after another teaching their kids that Humpty was an egg.
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January 24th, 2026 at 1:26:43 AM permalink
About the King Henry Viii and turkey leg thing, it turns out that there is a 1933 movie where the actor portraying King Henry Viii is eating a turkey leg which is why people thought there was a painting of him holding a turkey leg. 💡 IIRC some people thought there was a painting of him eating the turkey leg, not just merely holding the turkey leg. 💡
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I had a Mandela Effect when I remembered Remington Steel being a shaving razor brand! 🤣🤭 It turns out that Remington Steel is a TV show starring Pierce Bronsan! 🤣🤭
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Yes, that's because of the old commercials for Remington razor blades, where they boast of the steel quality and imply they are made from melted-down swords.
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nah, you're thinking of this


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Exactly. I used to use Wilkinson "Sword" blades, they were okay.

Remington, as far as I know, made electric shavers, and may still.
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Remington was a typewriter company that branched out into personal care products. It merged with another company and became Sperry-Rand. They sold off a number of divisions and have had some other mergers since then.
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Most people first meet Humpty in Alice in Wonderland, where he was definitely an egg.
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Most people first meet Humpty in Alice in Wonderland, where he was definitely an egg.
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Some sources say that the Humpty Dumpty poem dates back to the late 1400s

The 1810 version:

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
Threescore men and threescore more,
Cannot place Humpty Dumpty as he was before.

The musical version of the rhyme with "all the kings horses and all the kings men" apparently dates to 1870.

Lewis Carroll published "Through the Looking Glass" with Humpty Dumpty depicted as an egg -apparently for the first time. The novel, published in December 1871, has a chapter simply titled “Humpty Dumpty.” Here’s what happens when Alice meets the character:

“…the egg only got larger and larger, and more and more human: when she had come within a few yards of it, she saw that it had eyes and a nose and mouth; and when she had come close to it, she saw clearly that it was Humpty Dumpty himself. ‘It can’t be anybody else!’ she said to herself. ‘I’m as certain of it, as if his name were written all over his face.'”

It was Lewis Carroll's invention to create Humpty as an egg. Or so says the internet.
In some ways Humpty Dumpty is similar to Santa Claus who was originally created in the poem "The Night Before Christmas" but is only referred to as St. Nick and who yells Happy Christmas rather than Merry Christmas and who has no Rudolph or Mrs Claus or elvish workers. Mythology grows with time.
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The original Humpty may have been an oversized cannon that was made during the English Civil War, but the character we know comes from Wonderland.
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The original Humpty may have been an oversized cannon that was made during the English Civil War, but the character we know comes from Wonderland.
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Scroll up two posts and you will see that Humpty came from Through the Looking Glass and not from Alice in Wonderland.
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I had a Mandela Effect when I remembered Remington Steel being a shaving razor brand! 🤣🤭 It turns out that Remington Steel is a TV show starring Pierce Bronsan! 🤣🤭
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Yes, that's because of the old commercials for Remington razor blades, where they boast of the steel quality and imply they are made from melted-down swords.
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nah, you're thinking of this


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Exactly. I used to use Wilkinson "Sword" blades, they were okay.

Remington, as far as I know, made electric shavers, and may still.
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Remington was a typewriter company that branched out into personal care products. It merged with another company and became Sperry-Rand. They sold off a number of divisions and have had some other mergers since then.
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Before typewriters, weren't they producing firearms?
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I had a Mandela Effect when I remembered Remington Steel being a shaving razor brand! 🤣🤭 It turns out that Remington Steel is a TV show starring Pierce Bronsan! 🤣🤭
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Yes, that's because of the old commercials for Remington razor blades, where they boast of the steel quality and imply they are made from melted-down swords.
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nah, you're thinking of this


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Exactly. I used to use Wilkinson "Sword" blades, they were okay.

Remington, as far as I know, made electric shavers, and may still.
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Remington was a typewriter company that branched out into personal care products. It merged with another company and became Sperry-Rand. They sold off a number of divisions and have had some other mergers since then.
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Before typewriters, weren't they producing firearms?
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Remington Arms became Remington Outdoors and made guns.
Remington Rand was a typewriter company that got into electric shavers and other items. It's changed names a few times but they are two different companies
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I had a Mandela Effect when I remembered Remington Steel being a shaving razor brand! 🤣🤭 It turns out that Remington Steel is a TV show starring Pierce Bronsan! 🤣🤭
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Yes, that's because of the old commercials for Remington razor blades, where they boast of the steel quality and imply they are made from melted-down swords.
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nah, you're thinking of this


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Exactly. I used to use Wilkinson "Sword" blades, they were okay.

Remington, as far as I know, made electric shavers, and may still.
link to original post



Remington was a typewriter company that branched out into personal care products. It merged with another company and became Sperry-Rand. They sold off a number of divisions and have had some other mergers since then.
link to original post



Before typewriters, weren't they producing firearms?
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Remington Arms became Remington Outdoors and made guns.
Remington Rand was a typewriter company that got into electric shavers and other items. It's changed names a few times but they are two different companies
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Brands having the same name but being for different items happened with Dove too. Dove is the name of a Native American doll, a Barbie doll, a chocolate brand and a soap brand and are not related at all. 💡
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January 24th, 2026 at 11:11:03 AM permalink
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Remington was a typewriter company that branched out into personal care products. It merged with another company and became Sperry-Rand. They sold off a number of divisions and have had some other mergers since then.
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Before typewriters, weren't they producing firearms?
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Remington Arms became Remington Outdoors and made guns.
Remington Rand was a typewriter company that got into electric shavers and other items. It's changed names a few times but they are two different companies
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They are now, but they were the same guys making the weapons and the typewriters. Remington made a bunch of stuff at one time and might have been one of the first US companies to engage in general manufacturing of whatever their factories can make competitively.
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Remington Arms split into two companies, so the Remington that made typewriters in the 1950s and shavers in the 1970s could be considered a descendant company. Similar to Foot Locker and Dicks are descended from Woolworths.
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