Hurricane Hilary has caused the first ever tropical storm watch to be issued for southern CA
Southern Ca and Nevada could receive up 3 to 5 inches of rain with isolated spots getting up to 10 inches
heavy rainfall is expected to begin on Saturday and will impact LV
Death Valley, the hottest place on earth, is forecast to get 1 to 2 years worth of rainfall in a single day
LV could get 2 to 4 inches of rain - it averages only 3.75 inches per year
weather officials are warning of potential historic flooding in LV - see link
Hurricane Hilary - now in Mexico is currently rated as Category 4 - the highest and greatest threat is from Category 5
actually, my thread title is inaccurate - the tropical storm watch is only for Southern CA - but the storm will impact NV too - sorry about that
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/18/weather/hurricane-hilary-rain-flooding-forecast-friday/index.html
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2023/aug/18/weather-officials-warn-of-potential-historic-flood/
.
Quote: WizardI already turned back early on a hike today because of rain, which is think is related to the storm. Back in Vegas, I am getting that Maryland kind of feeling with hot humid air that a storm is coming soon and coming right soon (what movie am I quoting?).
link to original post
Does it involve a witch?
The clouds are not your typical rain clouds.
They are calling for storms thru Midnight and then twenty-four hours before any threat from Hilary. As of now, it looks like the storm will be well to the west of us. I hope it doesn't turn inland on us.
Quote: rxwineDoes it involve a witch?
link to original post
No.
per the link - the Washington Post - this could be the first tropical storm system to make landfall in CA in 84 years
Los Angeles is now under a tropical storm warning
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/08/18/hurricane-hilary-southern-california-rain-forecast/
.
I assume the agency in charge has already taken action to get the homeless people under Vegas to safety.
the storm is on track to take dead aim at San Diego between 3 and 6 p.m. today
San Diego is closing all public facilities Sunday and Monday
from the article:
"by the time it blows away, Hilary will have dumped 1.5 to 2 inches of rain at the coast, 2 to 3 inches across inland valleys, 5 to 10 inches in the mountains — with 12 inches in some spots — and 5 to 7 inches in the desert, according to forecasts. San Diego averages 0.01 inches in August, barely enough to moisten the bottom of a tea cup."
some CA communities are under evacuation orders
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/weather/story/2023-08-19/hilary-will-slam-san-diego-sooner-than-expected-with-heavy-rains-starting-tonight-then-intensifying-early-sunday
.
Quote: billryanI'm not worried about the flooding as much as I'm worried about an extended loss of electricity. No AC can be very dangerous in the desert.
link to original post
I hope you don't lose the electric Bill
the link is tips from Florida folks about how to stay cool when that happens
maybe helpful - maybe not - you prolly know all of this already - anyway
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/local/2023/07/03/power-outage-florida-heat-how-to-keep-cool/70362108007/
.
Quote: billryanI'm not worried about the flooding as much as I'm worried about an extended loss of electricity. No AC can be very dangerous in the desert.
link to original post
You can get yourself a gas generator. You may never need it again though. Just don't poison yourself with carbon monoxide using it in the wrong place. (but you could always sell it new for a minimal loss)
Quote: rxwineQuote: billryanI'm not worried about the flooding as much as I'm worried about an extended loss of electricity. No AC can be very dangerous in the desert.
link to original post
You can get yourself a gas generator. You may never need it again though. Just don't poison yourself with carbon monoxide using it in the wrong place. (but you could always sell it new for a minimal loss)
link to original post
I have a small generator in my fifth wheel, but if the storm changes track and heads toward me, I'm not riding it out in a trailer. I was supposed to drive to Ruidoso NM for a few days starting today, but am hesitant because I don't want to be there in the rain.
I'm more concerned about the millions in SoCal that may lose power than myself.
This is my home town 11 months ago
Quote: WizardSo far just off and on rain here in Vegas. Yesterday was noteworthy for, I think, hitting an all-time low temperature for Aug 19. I think the high was in the low or mid 80's, when it's usually 20 degrees higher. We're in a calm period right now (11:30 AM) before the worst of it hits this evening and night.
link to original post
It's really strange seeing all this color over the Los Angeles area in August. The storm was moving directly north so the brunt of it is not going to come anywhere near Las Vegas.
Quote: lilredrooster.
the storm is on track to take dead aim at San Diego between 3 and 6 p.m. today
San Diego is closing all public facilities Sunday and Monday
from the article:
"by the time it blows away, Hilary will have dumped 1.5 to 2 inches of rain at the coast, 2 to 3 inches across inland valleys, 5 to 10 inches in the mountains — with 12 inches in some spots — and 5 to 7 inches in the desert, according to forecasts. San Diego averages 0.01 inches in August, barely enough to moisten the bottom of a tea cup."
some CA communities are under evacuation orders
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/weather/story/2023-08-19/hilary-will-slam-san-diego-sooner-than-expected-with-heavy-rains-starting-tonight-then-intensifying-early-sunday
.
link to original post
Two inches of rain and there is panic? That is laughable. Most places in the south get that on a weekly basis during winter and spring. The news outlets must be having some slow times to create or invent chaos.
tuttigym
The sort of track it’s taking I wonder if there’s more benefit than risk due to the suppression of wildfire risk for the remaining season. If it hammered Palm Springs/IE would have been a concern.
Quote: ChumpChangeNobody told the city busses to stay off the streets because when they drive by they create a wake that flows into businesses. Some streets are way flooded. Some communities are under evacuation orders. Some roads are blocked by landslides. LA County is in a flood warning. Rain is coming down at 0.5" to 1" an hour and it's lasting several hours. I don't expect a foot of rain in the San Fernando Valley, but we'll see what the rain gauges say by midnight.
link to original post
Nobody stated 0.5" to 1" PER HOUR for "several hours". Just you, I believe. If that does occur, So. Cal. will indeed have some problems.
tuttigym
Quote: mcallister3200Moderate earthquake in the same spot as a tropical storm is a rather bizarre combination. In the hyperbolic fashion of this event, naturally have not seen anyone describe it as anything but a big one despite the facts of the Richter scale definitively stating moderate.
link to original post
When the big earthquake hits California there aren't going to be any big stores left to loot because they've already been looted. It doesn't make the news but every day in California there are multiple big store chains getting hit with gangs of looters. They just rush in wearing masks and hoods and fill up carts and bags and boxes and leaving nobody even tries to stop them. They hit a Nordstrom store this week for $100,000.
Footage on TV showed a store with most shelves having items tossed to the floor in Ojai, so if you're right in town you might think it was more than a 5.1, by a lot. A liquor store 6 miles away had about 40% of their liquor hit the floor.
Van Nuys has 2" of rain so far, and LA is half an inch behind. Rain totals will be very local and heavy bands of rains can train over thin areas. Storm sewers are backed up by debris so roads are turning into one lane rivers.
I'm watching KNBC on my Roku.
It's a wet rain with a dew point equal to the air temperature in the mid-70's. Flash Flood Warnings are being extended to 3 am.
from the article from about 4.5 hours ago:
"Tropical Storm Hilary slammed Southern California with a deluge of rainfall, flooding roadways and breaking records in parts of the region on Sunday as it made its historic arrival.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a state of emergency for much of Southern California, with flash flood warnings in place until the early hours of Monday.
The National Weather Service warned of record-breaking rainfall and possibly life-threatening impacts. By Sunday evening, several records for daily rainfall amounts had already been broken in the Los Angeles area, the weather service said."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/live-blog/hurricane-hilary-live-updates-storm-warning-flooding-california-rcna100823
.
Quote: rxwineSo, it must have stayed mostly west of LV?
link to original post
I think that's right
couldn't find much news about LV
maybe some on the forum who are there can comment
.