Investing in Cytodyn
BS.Quote: darkozWe both make money in casinos and apparently both using advantage play which I called him on over a year ago. .
Please explain why you think this? Just because Mike eluded to the fact that he might have an advantage of some kind? That could be something as simple as MD valuing his room comps at the suggested retail value.
Someome might value their comps at face value and claim they are playing with +EV, however, at the end of the year, they have less money gambling than what they started with.
Quote: darkozXvideos seems to avoid malware.
I would stay away from pornhub.
Malware? That's a virus, right? Somebody send out a press release. Lemonlamb might be THE cure for computer virus's.
Quote: billryanLemonlamb might be THE cure for computer virus's.
Tests are ongoing, but early experiments* dramatically altered the observed conditions.
*dumping a vial into an infected computer
Quote: billryanMalware? That's a virus, right? Somebody send out a press release. Lemonlamb might be THE cure for computer virus's.
That one line was better than my whole satire!
ADDED: Dieter, as well!
Quote: SOOPOOBilly….. you have done a lot of research on CYDY. Frankly, maybe I should have done as much as you before I plopped down my $1.6k! Is it possible to short CYDY? Have you considered it?
OnceDear…. Would it be appropriate to break this conversation off into its own thread?
I've done next to no research on it. I'd never heard of the company until it was promoted here and then simple google searches produced a tsunami of bad news about the "Doctor" who is the CEO, the sketchy results of multiple trials, and most importantly the fact that insiders were dumping shares faster than DO could promote them. This is a textbook example of a Pump and Dump and I tried to prevent my friends from being suckered into it.
I've tried really hard to give DO the benefit of the doubt here, but his insistence makes it hard.
Quote: billryanI've done next to no research on it.
I think this really sums it up
Quote: AxelWolfBS.
Please explain why you think this? Just because Mike eluded to the fact that he might have an advantage of some kind? That could be something as simple as MD valuing his room comps at the suggested retail value.
Someome might value their comps at face value and claim they are playing with +EV, however, at the end of the year, they have less money gambling than what they started with.
OD has said this isn't the thread to discuss this.
Blame me for that for the flawed thread splitting.Quote: darkozOD has said this isn't the thread to discuss this.
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Quote: MDawgHow does CYDY propose to weather this storm, given that it is hemorrhaging money? Continued negative -EPS, need to pay for more trials, nothing coming in in the way of income and all that?
Very easily, just like most penny stocks. Take more loans, fail to pay them back and convert that debt to shares. That is how it is usually done in these small companies.
Quote: MDawgWell it's interesting. I recall many days where TSLA issued more stock or borrowed more money and the market would initially react negatively to it and all the chat boards were lit up with shorties claiming that "this was it" and next thing you know the market would take it as a positive, turn TSLA green and shorties would get beaten down yet again.
It's a biotech stock.
Tesla isn't beholden to gaining an approval by a difficult to pass government agency like the FDA in order to get future revenue.
Quote: darkozQuote: MDawgWell it's interesting. I recall many days where TSLA issued more stock or borrowed more money and the market would initially react negatively to it and all the chat boards were lit up with shorties claiming that "this was it" and next thing you know the market would take it as a positive, turn TSLA green and shorties would get beaten down yet again.
It's a biotech stock.
Tesla isn't beholden to gaining an approval by a difficult to pass government agency like the FDA in order to get future revenue.
Tesla had to deal with a federal bureaucracy that expected an electric vehicle to meet standards set for gasoline ones. It not only had to fight the Federal government but it had to fight off Detroit and Japanese companies that fought them tooth and nail. Does lemonlabob have competitors spending billions to try and sink it like Tesla did?
Quote: billryanQuote: darkozQuote: MDawgWell it's interesting. I recall many days where TSLA issued more stock or borrowed more money and the market would initially react negatively to it and all the chat boards were lit up with shorties claiming that "this was it" and next thing you know the market would take it as a positive, turn TSLA green and shorties would get beaten down yet again.
It's a biotech stock.
Tesla isn't beholden to gaining an approval by a difficult to pass government agency like the FDA in order to get future revenue.
Tesla had to deal with a federal bureaucracy that expected an electric vehicle to meet standards set for gasoline ones. It not only had to fight the Federal government but it had to fight off Detroit and Japanese companies that fought them tooth and nail. Does lemonlabob have competitors spending billions to try and sink it like Tesla did?
Of course!
You are seriously asking if a small pharma touting a possible treatment for HIV, cancer and Covid doesn't have big pharma companies (which BTW, heavily finance the FDA) as enemies?
The big difference is Tesla made a product that actually worked and had a huge untapped market their competitors didn't recognize.
Quote: billryanNo, what I'm saying is that Big Pharma has better things to spend time and money on a snake oil company in desperate search for any possible use of its only product.
The big difference is Tesla made a product that actually worked and had a huge untapped market their competitors didn't recognize.
Nice opinion.
Not supported by facts.
Stockholder revolt over the board enriching themselves. Nothing to see here.
https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2021/07/vancouver-pharmaceutical-company-cytodyn-says-its-under-federal-investigation-over-covid-19-treatment-claims.html
The company admits it is being investigated for putting out false news releases.
Quote: billryanhttps://finance.yahoo.com/news/group-cytodyn-stockholders-files-lawsuit-123000586.html
Stockholder revolt over the board enriching themselves. Nothing to see here.
https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2021/07/vancouver-pharmaceutical-company-cytodyn-says-its-under-federal-investigation-over-covid-19-treatment-claims.html
The company admits it is being investigated for putting out false news releases.
Actually, Bill, you need to actually read articles instead of relying on headlines.
Please link to anywhere the company said they were under investigation.
Let me tell you that you can't. Sorry, the headline is lying and in fact in the article they cite the actual things Cytodyn said (hint, they never said they were under investigation by anyone).
Funny how your first thought when returning is to bash Cytodyn.
Let me guess? You heard they showed 85% improvement in cancer patients (that actually was announced by Cytodyn) and you realize how bad you will soon look.
As to the so-called stock holder revolt. That's a 13D (look it up) corporate takeover action. The 13D group owns a significant amount of shares, about 5% of the shares and wants to fire the BOD (Board of directors) and nominate themselves.
Naturally, in your world when millionaires spend money to take over a company it's because the company's one drug doesn't work. But that's only in your world.
Trust me, no one is fighting for a drug that doesn't work.
Here, Bill, let me direct you to an article about the real deal. (Let me guess, you refuse to read it)
https://www.targetedonc.com/view/leronlimab-decreases-circulating-tumors-cells-and-extends-survival-in-mtnbc?fbclid=IwAR1XofcYysGS4o4JctPS9N5pyiSpbMxbErr5-9Tf6LtCfPSag5ofpszhlP0
After a year of this nonsense, can you really not distinguish between a press release and a new article.
CytoDyn Inc., a biotech company based in Vancouver, acknowledged in new financial filings that it has been subpoenaed both by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and the U.S. Department of Justice over its claims about a purported COVID-19 treatment.
In newly filed regulatory documents, the publicly traded company said the SEC is “requesting documents and information concerning, among other matters, leronlimab, the Company’s public statements regarding the use of leronlimab as a potential treatment for COVID-19 and related communications with the (Food and Drug Administration), investors, and others, and trading in the securities of CytoDyn.”
Quote: billryanFrom the article that Dark Oz claims that the company doesn't say this.
CytoDyn Inc., a biotech company based in Vancouver, acknowledged in new financial filings that it has been subpoenaed both by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and the U.S. Department of Justice over its claims about a purported COVID-19 treatment.
In newly filed regulatory documents, the publicly traded company said the SEC is “requesting documents and information concerning, among other matters, leronlimab, the Company’s public statements regarding the use of leronlimab as a potential treatment for COVID-19 and related communications with the (Food and Drug Administration), investors, and others, and trading in the securities of CytoDyn.”
As I said, the body of the article doesn't say there is any investigation by the SEC or DOJ into Cytodyn.
And nowhere has Cytodyn said they are being investigated.
The SEC has subpoena'd some documents.
I feel sad for you Bill that you don't know documents are usually asked for by subpoena from witnesses.
Criminals they just break down the door and confiscate the paperwork.
Oh and might I also point out the SEC halts trading.
Sorry, your misdirection as well as the articles doesn't work
Quote: billryanThe SEC halts trading after it investigates. The SEC rarely does criminal investigations. At this point it is a civil investigation, no matter what kind of spin you want to put on it.
Well if your predictions of the SEC are the same as your predictions about Bitcoin, I have nothing to worry about.
Quote: darkozActually, Bill, you need to actually read articles instead of relying on headlines.
Please link to anywhere the company said they were under investigation.
Let me tell you that you can't. Sorry, the headline is lying and in fact in the article they cite the actual things Cytodyn said (hint, they never said they were under investigation by anyone).
Funny how your first thought when returning is to bash Cytodyn.
Let me guess? You heard they showed 85% improvement in cancer patients (that actually was announced by Cytodyn) and you realize how bad you will soon look.
As to the so-called stock holder revolt. That's a 13D (look it up) corporate takeover action. The 13D group owns a significant amount of shares, about 5% of the shares and wants to fire the BOD (Board of directors) and nominate themselves.
Naturally, in your world when millionaires spend money to take over a company it's because the company's one drug doesn't work. But that's only in your world.
Trust me, no one is fighting for a drug that doesn't work.
Here, Bill, let me direct you to an article about the real deal. (Let me guess, you refuse to read it)
https://www.targetedonc.com/view/leronlimab-decreases-circulating-tumors-cells-and-extends-survival-in-mtnbc?fbclid=IwAR1XofcYysGS4o4JctPS9N5pyiSpbMxbErr5-9Tf6LtCfPSag5ofpszhlP0
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Quote: mcallister3200Incremental progress is frequently made in many fields, and every once in a while, there’s a monumental leap forward. This post may be a monumental leap forward in the field of passive aggressiveness.
Thanks for the compliment... I think!
And no, getting subpoenaed doth not, in this case, mean that CYDY is a "witness" to anything - rather, the target of something. The power of the subpoena is being used here to obtain documents to further an investigation. I would assume that a civil case has been filed or at least a formal investigation launched and the SEC is using subpoenas pursuant to either of these. SEC subpoenas may not be simply issued on a whim - at a minimum a formal investigation must be in progress to justify their issuance.
Quote: MDawgGetting subpoenaed, being under investigation by the SEC, neither of these is a good thing, and investor sentiment is clearly down on CYDY lately as reflected in its scuttling bottom like a pair of ragged claws across the floors of silent seas.
And no, getting subpoenaed doth not, in this case, mean that CYDY is a "witness" to anything - rather, the target of something. The power of the subpoena is being used here to obtain documents to further an investigation. I would assume that a civil case has been filed or at least a formal investigation launched and the SEC is using subpoenas pursuant to either of these. SEC subpoenas may not be simply issued on a whim - at a minimum a formal investigation must be in progress to justify their issuance.
Obviously something is being investigated or there wouldn't be subpoenas issued
No one knows what or whom is being investigated.
Bill said Cytodyn has announced they are under investigation per the headline of the article.
And that isn't true.
Anything else is just assumption.
Here is what I do know to be factual.
1) The subpoenas were issued in the Spring prior to the end of May. This didn't happen yesterday.
2) SEC said Cytodyn should not take the subpeona's as any form of accusation against the company(yes, it's language written in the subpeona submission) Whether that's standard language, a lie or whatever, it means no announcement of an investigation into Cytodyn was made by the SEC
3) Cytodyn made this information public as required when they had their last 8K for the period ending May 30th (hence the subpeona's predate May 30.)
4)) Most certainly Cytodyn made no such announcement they were under investigation by the SEC
5) Cytodyn trading has not been halted by the SEC even though the subpeona's were from months ago
Quote: billryanFrom the article that Dark Oz claims that the company doesn't say this.
CytoDyn Inc., a biotech company based in Vancouver, acknowledged in new financial filings that it has been subpoenaed both by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and the U.S. Department of Justice over its claims about a purported COVID-19 treatment.
In newly filed regulatory documents, the publicly traded company said the SEC is “requesting documents and information concerning, among other matters, leronlimab, the Company’s public statements regarding the use of leronlimab as a potential treatment for COVID-19 and related communications with the (Food and Drug Administration), investors, and others, and trading in the securities of CytoDyn.”
It is right there for all to read. I have no idea why this guy is denying it, unless he truly doesn't understand what being under investigation means.
The company acknowledges they have been subpoenaed, and even says it is because of it's claims about a purported COVID treatment. The COVID treatment that oz kept promoting as the cure for anything that ails you.
This is getting to be a Shaggy song.
It wasn't me. Get supoenaed? Deny it. Wasn't me. Get caught pushing phony results? It wasn 't me, I going to be a witness to something else.
Quote: billryanIt is right there for all to read. I have no idea why this guy is denying it, unless he truly doesn't understand what being under investigation means.
The company acknowledges they have been subpoenaed, and even says it is because of it's claims about a purported COVID treatment. The COVID treatment that oz kept promoting as the cure for anything that ails you.
This is getting to be a Shaggy song.
It wasn't me. Get supoenaed? Deny it. Wasn't me. Get caught pushing phony results? It wasn 't me, I going to be a witness to something else.
I have no idea why you keep quoting the misquoted article.
(Quoting Bloomberg news? Nope nothing there. Quoting the New York Times? Nope nothing there. Quoting even the Daily News? Nope no articles there.
Quoting InsiderFinancial? Nope, nothing there.
Bill insists on quoting the OregonLive. Real well known news source [sarcasm])
Cytodyn under investigation by the SEC reported by one source (the ever reliable (snicker) Oregon Live) and not picked up anywhere else? Guess why?
Because Cytodyn has never said they were under investigation.
The SEC has not said they are under investigation.
The only people saying it is Oregon Live and Bill Ryan.
Quote: unJonTwo board members resigning and a proxy fight? Ugh this could get ugly. Sorry, Dark.
Unfortunately it's already ugly.
Interestingly, Bill Ryan cited the Board proxy fight. The 13D Proxy group has made it's case that Leronlimab is a fantastic molecule that may cure cancer, Covid, HIV and multiple indications and they believe current board members are mismanaging the company.
But that kind of cancels out Bills claims that the drug doesn't work.
Of course, if the drug works and the current Cytodyn management made statements that it works then there isn't any need for an investigation into comments made that the drug works.
What a conundrum for Bill. Either the drug doesn't work and the SEC is investigating false claims made by management or there is an ugly proxy fight over a wonder drug that works and any SEC investigation would discover that
Quote: darkozUnfortunately it's already ugly.
Interestingly, Bill Ryan cited the Board proxy fight. The 13D Proxy group has made it's case that Leronlimab is a fantastic molecule that may cure cancer, Covid, HIV and multiple indications and they believe current board members are mismanaging the company.
But that kind of cancels out Bills claims that the drug doesn't work.
Of course, if the drug works and the current Cytodyn management made statements that it works then there isn't any need for an investigation into comments made that the drug works.
What a conundrum for Bill. Either the drug doesn't work and the SEC is investigating false claims made by management or there is an ugly proxy fight over a wonder drug that works and any SEC investigation would discover that
Dark….. whatever those ‘facts’ are there is one ‘fact’ that is indisputable. My $1610 investment is now worth $1310. I am not ‘sure’ that that trajectory will continue, but there is little to be optimistic about!
Quote: darkozUnfortunately it's already ugly.
Interestingly, Bill Ryan cited the Board proxy fight. The 13D Proxy group has made it's case that Leronlimab is a fantastic molecule that may cure cancer, Covid, HIV and multiple indications and they believe current board members are mismanaging the company.
But that kind of cancels out Bills claims that the drug doesn't work.
Of course, if the drug works and the current Cytodyn management made statements that it works then there isn't any need for an investigation into comments made that the drug works.
What a conundrum for Bill. Either the drug doesn't work and the SEC is investigating false claims made by management or there is an ugly proxy fight over a wonder drug that works and any SEC investigation would discover that
Those aren’t the only alternatives. Could be that the proxy materials are right that current management sucks and wrong that Leronolimb is a miracle drug.
Quote: unJonThose aren’t the only alternatives. Could be that the proxy materials are right that current management sucks and wrong that Leronolimb is a miracle drug.
This thread is giving me a headache. Does anyone know where I can get a shot of LemonLamb to help with that? I also have a pimple, and I don't usually get pimples, but I'd imagine that LemonLamb also prevents acne.
Incredibly, by denying such a simple fact, Dark Oz made me do a little research to prove my point and right there, on page 125 cydy tells it's stock owners and prospective owners that not only are they under an SEC investigation, which is generally a civil matter but that the DOJ is investigating them as well.
Dark oz keeps saying no one reported this except me and some obscure newspaper when the truth is that CYDy reported it themselves in their Annual Report.
In a nutshell, these clowns held a trial to show lemonlabob worked. It didn't. It failed it's first objective and failed all of its secondary objectives. Its own report says that, but then they claim that a previously undisclosed third objective was a success and when they added in their own proprietary age-weighted statistics into the mix, and you squint really hard at just the right angle you will discover the trial was actually an amazing success. The FDA and the SEC disagree. But what do they know? They are just pawns of Big Pharm , trying to keep this miracle drug off the market.
The Annual report also states that the company is near insolvent and the outside auditors brought in to examine the firm is concerned about the companies ability to continue its operations for the upcoming year.
I'll be happy to provide links if needed, but CyDys Annual Report is a public record and anyone can pull it up on the web. Just read pages 125/126.
There are a lot of shenanigans played with stocks listed on the pink sheets, and many of them go unnoticed, but the sheer dishonesty of this current regime is hard to miss. It's little wonder the company is being attacked by not only its own shareholders but by financial watchdogs as well.
The current board fight isn't about lemonlabob. It's about a board that has been enriching itself at stockholder expense, making absurd claims and possible insider trading, the typical stockholder complaints in any pump and dump.
Quote: SOOPOODark….. whatever those ‘facts’ are there is one ‘fact’ that is indisputable. My $1610 investment is now worth $1310. I am not ‘sure’ that that trajectory will continue, but there is little to be optimistic about!
My $1000 gamble is now down to $385. que sera sera
Quote: DRichMy $1000 gamble is now down to $385. que sera sera
My $68,000+ is down to $43,000.
I still believe Leronlimab works.
There are now 29 trial sites in Brazil for this next trial.
The FDA has gone through BLA resubmission for HIV so hopefully that gets resubmitted once the clarifications have been completed.
A Long Hauler study is about to be trialed in the US.
As to the "failure" of the prior trials, that is why you trial a drug. To see what works and what doesn't.
Leronlimab came very close to meeting expectations but didn't quite make it.
So you run a new trial with altered dosage and altered schedule.
You don't do like Bill suggests and go "fail, okay, we're done, call in the SEC."
EDIT: And Bill, yeah, I suggest you supply those links. Wondering why you didn't.
Oh, let me guess. You didn't want anyone reading the lines where the SEC and DOJ says NOTHING ABOUT THERE SUBPEONA'S SHOULD BE CONSTRUED AS ANY ACCUSATIONS OF WRONGDOING".
Really, Bill, you think I didn't read that document as well.
Quote: billryanI have no doubt you read the document. I have plenty of doubt that you understood what you were reading. At least I hope you misunderstood it. I'd hate to think you understood it but continue to post your shite anyways.
Quoted directly from documents:
"This enquiry should not be construed as an indication that any violations of law have occurred or that the SEC has any negative opinion of any person, entity, or securities trading activity"
Since you continue to construe that as precisely what the SEC says not to construe it as I have no doubt you misunderstood it but continue to post your shite anyways.
Quote: darkozQuoted directly from documents:
"This enquiry should not be construed as an indication that any violations of law have occurred or that the SEC has any negative opinion of any person, entity, or securities trading activity"
Since you continue to construe that as precisely what the SEC says not to construe it as I have no doubt you misunderstood it but continue to post your shite anyways.
The SEC has to make that disclaimer because the company, as yet, has not been charged with anything. They could be sued if they do not make such a disclaimer, their failure to make any such disclaimer is proven to have caused material harm to Cytodyn and the investigation does not turn up anything.
The Company has received subpoenas from the United States Securities and Exchange Commission requesting documents and information concerning, among other matters, leronlimab, the Company’s public statements regarding the use of leronlimab as a potential treatment for COVID-19 and related communications with the FDA, investors, and others, and trading in the securities of CytoDyn. The SEC has informed the Company that this inquiry should not be construed as an indication that any violations of law have occurred or that the SEC has any negative opinion of any person, entity or securities trading activity.
In addition, the Company and certain of its executives have received subpoenas in connection with an investigation being conducted by the United States Department of Justice. The subpoenas seek testimony and/or records concerning, among other matters, leronlimab, the Company’s public statements regarding the use of leronlimab as a potential treatment for COVID-19 and related communications with the FDA, investors, and others, and trading in the securities of CytoDyn.
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The Company is cooperating fully with these non-public, fact-finding investigations, and as of the date of this filing, the Company is unable to predict the ultimate outcome and cannot reasonably estimate the potential possible loss or range of loss, if any.
Note 11. Public Warrant Tender Offers
First dark oz says there is no investigation.
Then there is an investigation but dark oz says that it doesn't mean there were any violations.
That is why there is an investigation.
This isn't about if they are guilty of anything. I simply posted an article that stated CYDY stated they were under investigation. Which Dark Oz denied. Now, facing the fact that they state in their Annual Report that they are under investigation, he wants to move the goal posts again. It's sad and rather pathetic.
I used to think he was simply naive, now I'm not so sure.
On May 17, 2021, FDA issued a statement on its website responding to certain of our public communications related to our ongoing CD10 and CD12 clinical trials to investigate the safety and efficacy of leronlimab for the treatment of COVID-19. In that statement, FDA stated that the data currently available do not support the clinical benefit of leronlimab for the treatment of COVID-19.
With respect to the CD10 study, FDA stated that there was no observed effect of leronlimab on the trial’s primary endpoint or on any of the secondary endpoints. The FDA found that the CD10 trial results showed no clinically meaningful differences in average change in “total clinical symptom score,” the measure used to evaluate the primary endpoint of the CD10 study, from baseline to Day 14 between study arms (-3.5 in the leronlimab group versus -3.4 in the placebo group). Additionally, FDA stated that none of the secondary endpoints were met in this study, including mortality, time to symptom resolution, and time to return to normal activity.
The FDA reached the same conclusion for the CD12 study. The FDA stated that the CD12 trial failed to demonstrate any effect of leronlimab on the trial’s primary endpoint, with no difference seen in mortality (20.5% in the leronlimab treatment group and 21.6% in the placebo treatment group); or on any of the trial’s secondary endpoints, with no difference on the average length of hospitalization (21.4 days in both the leronlimab and the placebo treatment groups).
From CYDys Annual Report.
I know this forum has a rule against extensive copying of others works but when I say a company admits to being under investigation, how does one deal with untrue statements except to quote the original source.
Quote: billryan
First dark oz says there is no investigation.
Then there is an investigation but dark oz says that it doesn't mean there were any violations.
That is why there is an investigation.
This isn't about if they are guilty of anything. I simply posted an article that stated CYDY stated they were under investigation. Which Dark Oz denied. Now, facing the fact that they state in their Annual Report that they are under investigation, he wants to move the goal posts again. It's sad and rather pathetic.
I used to think he was simply naive, now I'm not so sure.
(Quote clipped, relevance)
I feel like I have the least interest in this of anyone participating in this thread, and yet, I also think I'm probably the only one who actually read the full annual report.
Quote: billryan
I know this forum has a rule against extensive copying of others works but when I say a company admits to being under investigation, how does one deal with untrue statements except to quote the original source.
(Quote clipped, relevance)
Everything you quoted is a matter of public information, as far as I can tell. Annual Reports are not copyright, they are disclosed specifically for the purpose of being public information. It's required by the SEC.
Quote: billryan
...have received subpoenas in connection WITH AN INVESTIGATION being conducted by the United States Department of Justice.
Now, facing the fact that THEY STATE in their Annual Report that THEY ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION, he wants to move the goal posts again.
Misquote by Bill and he actually says I am moving the goal posts, lol. It would be funny if not so pathetic
It's absolutely hilarious that Bill can't seem to understand the difference between
"There is an investigation"
And "We are under investigation"
I have repeatedly said there IS an investigation. Just that Cytodyn has not stated that they are the ones under investigation.
